regardless of how long Mac is out or how serious it is. I think it's time to find a replacement. We already are lacking a true #1C and now we need a #2LW

Sad to see Mac's career is likely done thanks to a fringe AHLer.

On the team side, his salary will likely be moved to the long term injury reserve and create space to bring in another body or two under the "budget cap". I've felt the team needs another strong top 6 forward for awhile. Maybe they can do that move now? The majority of fans want some depth on defence. The money could certainly be used there as well. Should be interesting to see what happens going forward.

Great to be watching Sens hockey again. I should've made the 3 hour drive to Halifax tonight.

Maybe the Sens shouldn't have traded Shane Prince until they saw Mac play hockey again.

Chabot's has loads of NHL speed. He and Englund both look very promising on the Sens back end for years to come.


Colin Greening still sucks

Great to be watching Sens hockey again. I should've made the 3 hour drive to Halifax tonight.

Maybe the Sens shouldn't have traded Shane Prince until they saw Mac play hockey again.

Chabot's has loads of NHL speed. He and Englund both look very promising on the Sens back end for years to come.


Colin Greening still sucks
- Erik6Karlsson5

why? there are atleast 3-4 guys who i would have moved into the top six before prince.....that guy will peak as a decent 3rd liner at best, and right now is a borderline NHLer

Seiloff got kicked out of Flames training camp last year for the same sort of thing. I guess he doesn't know how to tone it down.
- The_Janitor

Wow .....

someone needs to talk to this idiot........... that said, it may show how fragile Mac is. Sorry to say, cus I really like him, but the Sens need to look at top 6 options. Lazar or Smith are the only ones that can compete for that spot.

Wow .....

someone needs to talk to this idiot........... that said, it may show how fragile Mac is. Sorry to say, cus I really like him, but the Sens need to look at top 6 options. Lazar or Smith are the only ones that can compete for that spot.
- AlfieisKing

i think that's a key point in this situation. yes, it was probably an unnecessary hit, but if it's against pretty much anyone but CMac, that player probably doesn't even miss a shift. if something like that is gonna take him out then there is no way he was physically ready to play an 82 game NHL season.

it's terrible that this is likely career impacting or ending for CMac.........but at this point i think he needs to do what's best for him, his health, and his family and walk away while he still can. it sucks for the team, and i'd certainly miss him as a player, but there are some things that are more important than hockey.

why? there are atleast 3-4 guys who i would have moved into the top six before prince.....that guy will peak as a decent 3rd liner at best, and right now is a borderline NHLer
- sensarmy_11

You're probably right about prince. I'm just not excited to see Z Smith or Puemple play top 6 mins in the #2 LW spot. The Sens are very shallow in talent on the left wing. I think we can all agree a trade must be made to bring in a proven top 6 to replace Mac.

Sucks about MacArthur. Sadly, while it wasn't a soft hit, it wasn't particularly hard, so it might be that he just can't take a hard hit of any type. Granted, it was high, but your head's gonna get jarred at times during the season. I think it's time to hang them up.
- jmatchett383

Sens army says it above and I agree 100% --- the silver lining may be that the Sens now know what they have in Mac - and that's the sad part. I would try to get him healthy and play a 3rd line role, but no way IMO he will be a top 6 forward .... and with his $, the Sens HAVE to look at options

You just hope at this point that he is OK, nevermind about his career.
- Aetherial

This ^

You're probably right about prince. I'm just not excited to see Z Smith or Puemple play top 6 mins in the #2 LW spot. The Sens are very shallow in talent on the left wing. I think we can all agree a trade must be made to bring in a proven top 6 to replace Mac.
- Erik6Karlsson5

I'd have no problem giving puempel a shot on 2nd line LW with turris and stone. he's never really been given an opportunity to play top six in the NHL but showed in both jr's and the AHL that he's able to put the puck in the net.

I'd give him a shot

What I would have lines as in 2 weeks:

Hoffman - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Turris - Stone
Puempel - Pageau - Lazar
Paul - Kelly - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phanuef - Ceci
Seidenberg - Wideman / Borowieci

Anderson
Hammond
*hoff is a staple on top LW. You can swap other 2. Puemps could get a good look on line 2 with Turris + Stone.... or even Brass/Bobby

I'd have no problem giving puempel a shot on 2nd line LW with turris and stone. he's never really been given an opportunity to play top six in the NHL but showed in both jr's and the AHL that he's able to put the puck in the net.

I'd give him a shot
- sensarmy_11

Completely agree. The biggest issue with Puempel to date, as far as I can tell, is that his time in the NHL has been spent playing minutes that don't cater to the strength of his game. The guy is a natural goal scorer. You don't buy a race horse to pull the cart, know what I'm saying? Some guys play the piano, some guys move the piano.

Puempel is never likely to have elite level skating, but he's got a knack for popping goals in those dirty areas. You give him a couple of good possession driving players to skate with and maybe he's a guy that can step in. Certainly MacArthur's injury really sucks, but players like Puempel have to look at it as an opportunity for them to establish themselves.

That said, I don't know too much about Phil Varone. His career stats in every league suggest that he's a playmaker. But another couple of preseason games like the one he had last night, and management is going to be forced to put him on the NHL roster. And that is a good thing. Give the players the tools they need to succeed and let them make the decision for you.

You're probably right about prince. I'm just not excited to see Z Smith or Puemple play top 6 mins in the #2 LW spot. The Sens are very shallow in talent on the left wing. I think we can all agree a trade must be made to bring in a proven top 6 to replace Mac.
- Erik6Karlsson5

Prince wouldn't be high on the depth chart now. A trade might be necessary to fill MacArthur's spot, but we don't know that yet. Certainly, it doesn't look good for his career, but I think that making a trade in the preseason is too early. They've got a few guys they would be wise to audition in that spot before they go and move an asset for a guy who may or may not be appreciably better than the guy who is already in the organization.

I'd give Puempel a shot at it. I'd give Perron a shot at it. And based on last night, I'd be taking a long look at Phil Varone. Throw one (or all) of those guys into the mix and see if one of them takes the opportunity and establishes themselves. Ottawa isn't starved for offence so they can afford to take the first 20-25 games of the season to figure out if they need to make the move or not.

I personally think that the budget space they're going to get from putting MacArthur on LTIR would be better spent on bringing in Seidenberg to play on the 3rd pair. Say what you will about analytics, he's still head and shoulders above the guys they've got for that spot on the roster now, and this way they wouldn't have to wedge Chabot into uncomfortable positions early, they would have the luxury of being able to take their time with him and ease him into those more difficult situations.

What I would have lines as in 2 weeks:

Hoffman - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Turris - Stone
Puempel - Pageau - Lazar
Paul - Kelly - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phanuef - Ceci
Seidenberg - Wideman / Borowieci

Anderson
Hammond
*hoff is a staple on top LW. You can swap other 2. Puemps could get a good look on line 2 with Turris + Stone.... or even Brass/Bobby
- AlfieisKing

I don't think Lazar is going to be back in two weeks, I feel like he's gonna miss a part of the regular season. Pure speculation on my part, I'm not a doctor, I'm just a guy who has had mono before lol.

Don't see them putting Smith at 2LW just yet, I think they're going to want to see what some of the youngsters can do there before they go down that road.

Also, don't think Paul is destined for that 4LW spot. I think that coach is gonna want a vet in that place. I'm thinking he puts Pyatt there to start the season.

What I would have lines as in 2 weeks:

Hoffman - Brassard - Ryan
Smith - Turris - Stone
Puempel - Pageau - Lazar
Paul - Kelly - Neil

Methot - Karlsson
Phanuef - Ceci
Seidenberg - Wideman / Borowieci

Anderson
Hammond
*hoff is a staple on top LW. You can swap other 2. Puemps could get a good look on line 2 with Turris + Stone.... or even Brass/Bobby
- AlfieisKing

No Chabot?

So you're getting ready to delete your account...?

No Chabot?

So you're getting ready to delete your account...?

- lumlums

He isnt ready just yet,he is going to be a good one no need to rush him

He isnt ready just yet,he is going to be a good one no need to rush him

- top shelf 15

He looks decent for sure.

However in trolling other forums, Our dear friend AlfieIsKing said that he believed so strongly in him, that he would delete his account if Chabot wasn't on the opening day roster.


I'm just enjoying the clock ticking...

He looks decent for sure.

However in trolling other forums, Our dear friend AlfieIsKing said that he believed so strongly in him, that he would delete his account if Chabot wasn't on the opening day roster.


I'm just enjoying the clock ticking...
- lumlums

They will probably give him the standard 9 games, so I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.

It's semantics, but he will probably make the opening day roster, just to be sent down after a couple weeks.

Phil "The Real Deal" Varone

I don't think Lazar is going to be back in two weeks, I feel like he's gonna miss a part of the regular season. Pure speculation on my part, I'm not a doctor, I'm just a guy who has had mono before lol.

Don't see them putting Smith at 2LW just yet, I think they're going to want to see what some of the youngsters can do there before they go down that road.

Also, don't think Paul is destined for that 4LW spot. I think that coach is gonna want a vet in that place. I'm thinking he puts Pyatt there to start the season.
- the_terror

I agree and I think the Sens need some top 6 help. I would be talking to Tampa. They are in a deep cap tangle. New contract needed for Kucherov this year. Bishop, Nesterov, Johnson, Palat and Drouin next year. Tampa needs to do a deal this year. I think Ottawa has the pieces to deal for Kucherov or Drouin.

They will probably give him the standard 9 games, so I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.

It's semantics, but he will probably make the opening day roster, just to be sent down after a couple weeks.
- Charliebox

Unless they sign Seidenberg. Then I'd guess he almost certainly won't make the opening day lineup...

I agree and I think the Sens need some top 6 help. I would be talking to Tampa. They are in a deep cap tangle. New contract needed for Kucherov this year. Bishop, Nesterov, Johnson, Palat and Drouin next year. Tampa needs to do a deal this year. I think Ottawa has the pieces to deal for Kucherov or Drouin.
- spatso

They do need top 6 help. Two options:

1) Someone on the roster steps up and shows that he can be a top 6 LW. It's not going to be Zack Smith. And it's gotta be someone with some natural finishing skill, because Brassard is a playmaker, and Ryan is a shooter. They need someone to park in front of the net and bang at rebounds. I figure that your candidates are Puempel and Perron. The role seems unsuited to Perron at this point, so I figure that this job is Puempel's to lose, at least for now.

2) Go trade for someone. They may have the pieces for Kucherov or Drouin, but that's gonna be a hefty price. Might be a little too rich for their blood. But, you're not entirely wrong, it has to either be a team in cap hell, or a team who has too much at risk for RFA's and expansion drafts. Tampa might not be a bad candidate. I'd have to figure that either of those guys costs a 1st + White/Chabot + more. No doubt it would nicely round out Ottawa's top lines, but sacrificing a blue chip prospect is not an easy thing to do.

I dunno. I figure that the job is Puempel's to lose, at least in the short term. He needs to have a great game tonight, and to make the most of his opportunities for the rest of camp. Otherwise, he might find himself in a different team's colours before too long.

Unless they sign Seidenberg. Then I'd guess he almost certainly won't make the opening day lineup...
- Mr_Clean

Agreed, if they do sign Seidenberg, then Chabot is back in the Q for sure.

They do need top 6 help. Two options:

1) Someone on the roster steps up and shows that he can be a top 6 LW. It's not going to be Zack Smith. And it's gotta be someone with some natural finishing skill, because Brassard is a playmaker, and Ryan is a shooter. They need someone to park in front of the net and bang at rebounds. I figure that your candidates are Puempel and Perron. The role seems unsuited to Perron at this point, so I figure that this job is Puempel's to lose, at least for now.

2) Go trade for someone. They may have the pieces for Kucherov or Drouin, but that's gonna be a hefty price. Might be a little too rich for their blood. But, you're not entirely wrong, it has to either be a team in cap hell, or a team who has too much at risk for RFA's and expansion drafts. Tampa might not be a bad candidate. I'd have to figure that either of those guys costs a 1st + White/Chabot + more. No doubt it would nicely round out Ottawa's top lines, but sacrificing a blue chip prospect is not an easy thing to do.

I dunno. I figure that the job is Puempel's to lose, at least in the short term. He needs to have a great game tonight, and to make the most of his opportunities for the rest of camp. Otherwise, he might find himself in a different team's colours before too long.
- the_terror

i would love for them to look into getting skinner out of Car......i think a top six of

hoff - brass - ryan
skinner - turris - stone

is pretty f-ing good, and pretty close to as good as anyone in the east could roll out (with pitt and wash being the exception....clearly the two best top sixes in the east, if not the league).

i think it would be feasible. ottawa has the young assets it would require, and i expect as most that grizz is probably done for good, so the cap room is there too.

i don't know what carolina needs but i have to think that between a 1st, 2nd, puempel, englund, paul, smith, gagne, perron, harpur etc.....you could put together a 2-3 asset package that carolina would like. the only 3 prospects i wouldn't include would be chabot, white, and brown.

Completely agree. The biggest issue with Puempel to date, as far as I can tell, is that his time in the NHL has been spent playing minutes that don't cater to the strength of his game. The guy is a natural goal scorer. You don't buy a race horse to pull the cart, know what I'm saying? Some guys play the piano, some guys move the piano..
- the_terror

I can get on board with what you're saying........I really liked Puemps at one point, but he really has to show it -- IF he can score early, then it'll be big.

Although I remb a year where Jim O'Brien started the year hot haha

No Chabot?

So you're getting ready to delete your account...?

- lumlums

Good point .... and HECK no

He looks decent for sure.

However in trolling other forums, Our dear friend AlfieIsKing said that he believed so strongly in him, that he would delete his account if Chabot wasn't on the opening day roster.

I'm just enjoying the clock ticking...
- lumlums

You dink.............I never said that those words lol... good try bud

Coga - who has a ...well not soft on - made that part of his account.

There's no way I would say Chabot is going to be here for 82 games - but you never know. Certainly his defensive game and ability to adjust to the NHL is likely not there yet. Boucher has mentioned this. His speed can actually get him in trouble if he's out of position or overplays. This happens to Karlsson all the time. The way he sees the game is quicker than others do - which causes turnovers bc alot of the time OTHER players aren't able to receive or read a play as well