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Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Sep 25 @ 6:28 PM ET
Mathieu Perreault wants to know "how much more" Jacob Trouba wants. Per Perreault, "This guy plays big minutes, 22 minutes, and he's gonna complain some sort of way about his ice time?"

https://twitter.com/mikeo...status/780071642328281088
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:59 PM ET
Mathieu Perreault wants to know "how much more" Jacob Trouba wants. Per Perreault, "This guy plays big minutes, 22 minutes, and he's gonna complain some sort of way about his ice time?"

https://twitter.com/mikeo...status/780071642328281088

- Mr Ricochet



Generation Me!!!!!
Matt_Foleys_bro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.11.2012

Sep 25 @ 8:16 PM ET
Just a thought: Trouba plus for Seabrook? Lose an aging Seabrook with an 8 yr - 6.85 mil contract, 3 rings, experience, propensity for scoring timely goals, big hits...for a 22yr old with a bright future??? With the physical game he plays, will he be broken down in a few years? Solves the Panarin resigning issue. Gives the Jets another solid blueline leader. Maybe with the plus we get our missing top 6 winger? Would he waive his NTC? Might solve some of our issues...and create others. Again, just spitballing.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 25 @ 8:29 PM ET
Mathieu Perreault wants to know "how much more" Jacob Trouba wants. Per Perreault, "This guy plays big minutes, 22 minutes, and he's gonna complain some sort of way about his ice time?"

https://twitter.com/mikeo...status/780071642328281088

- Mr Ricochet


It was NEVER about MONEY....
He wants to play in the RD side and have Myers play the left
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Sep 25 @ 8:33 PM ET
Just a thought: Trouba plus for Seabrook? Lose an aging Seabrook with an 8 yr - 6.85 mil contract, 3 rings, experience, propensity for scoring timely goals, big hits...for a 22yr old with a bright future??? With the physical game he plays, will he be broken down in a few years? Solves the Panarin resigning issue. Gives the Jets another solid blueline leader. Maybe with the plus we get our missing top 6 winger? Would he waive his NTC? Might solve some of our issues...and create others. Again, just spitballing.
- Matt_Foleys_bro


Could you get Trouba to come here and wait a yer to be the top four RDman?

Because I KNOW what Seabrook brings NOW to a Cup run.

Long term I would love Trouba as a guy who develops more fully into a physical force and offensive contributor...
Matt_Foleys_bro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.11.2012

Sep 25 @ 8:50 PM ET
Could you get Trouba to come here and wait a yer to be the top four RDman?

Because I KNOW what Seabrook brings NOW to a Cup run.

Long term I would love Trouba as a guy who develops more fully into a physical force and offensive contributor...

- wiz1901


I'm sure he'd love a chance at a cup. He might be willing to wait that year with a team with a good cup chance. I love Seabrook and would hate to see him go. But IMO with the way he plays, just don't believe he's going to be worth the contract in a few years. I could be wrong, but I don't have that crystal ball. I do 100% agree with you on his value in a cup run today.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Sep 25 @ 8:57 PM ET
The rule of thumb is, if Gretzky got traded than anyone can get traded...

So with that said, Chi-fans, is there anyway the Hawks trade Kane for something that they currently do not have? Like, would Kane be traded in next few years for a top goalie? Another D to replace Keith? Hot prospects? Hard to imagine but dangle and name like Kane I'm sure you can ask for anything?

- Leniwm1


Hawks have a top goalie, so no. Could they trade him in a few years for need? Sure, anything is possible.
kevndevries
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.31.2014

Sep 25 @ 11:42 PM ET
Just a thought: Trouba plus for Seabrook? Lose an aging Seabrook with an 8 yr - 6.85 mil contract, 3 rings, experience, propensity for scoring timely goals, big hits...for a 22yr old with a bright future??? With the physical game he plays, will he be broken down in a few years? Solves the Panarin resigning issue. Gives the Jets another solid blueline leader. Maybe with the plus we get our missing top 6 winger? Would he waive his NTC? Might solve some of our issues...and create others. Again, just spitballing.
- Matt_Foleys_bro

Now this is what I would look into.
I think Seabs is a little overrated but one thing the Hawks love is the stretch pass and Seabs has shown he can make it. I think he is overpaid and the Least important member of the core that can be moved. I think Hossa bounces back. I would love to see a trade like that and replace one core player with another (potentially) and maybe you can get him to resign with the hawks for a long term deal for less than Seabs and you save money. Use the same money to resign Panarin and see what happens. Not sure if you coud ask for more though but maybe the Plus is small. No idea.
I do not think theres anyway it happens just because the hawks love Seabrook (IMO more than they should) and he already knows everything. I do not seem them moving a core player because of the risk of Trouba not filling in as well.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Sep 26 @ 9:06 AM ET
JJ,

After seeing Kempny playing a significant role for the Czech Republic can you give some of your thoughts on how me might transition to the Hawks this year?

- HockeyBatman



Probably slowly, third pairing, he may sit some nights too. He made some mistakes here and there on smaller ice against the best competition in the world, Q will keep him on a short leash until he is reasonably sure they're been minimized, but the talent is obviously there
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Sep 26 @ 9:08 AM ET
The rule of thumb is, if Gretzky got traded than anyone can get traded...

So with that said, Chi-fans, is there anyway the Hawks trade Kane for something that they currently do not have? Like, would Kane be traded in next few years for a top goalie? Another D to replace Keith? Hot prospects? Hard to imagine but dangle and name like Kane I'm sure you can ask for anything?

- Leniwm1


The ONLY way the Hawks trade Kane is if he "regresses" as far as off-ice behaviors. Until something like that happens, he's a Hawk.

And even then, no guarantee he gets dealt, because of his cap hit and the fact that his "malfeasance" might present similar issues for any team trading for him.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Sep 26 @ 9:10 AM ET
Kane and Keith both have full NMC with too many years left on them for either to waive to potenitally/likely lose them. Something they didn't have to worry about with Gretzky.
- L_B_R



NMCs can be waived, but point taken. Again, it would take a really sticky, unpleasant situation for the Hawks to deal Kane and/or for him to waive, but stranger things have happened. And I have reason to believe the Hawks would have leverage in Kane's case.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Sep 26 @ 9:10 AM ET
Tracey Myers ‏@TramyersCSN 1h1 hour ago
Fortin will play for his Quebec league team this season. #Blackhawks

- BlackhawkDown



No surprise there. He wasn't going to play for the Hawks this year.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Sep 26 @ 9:20 AM ET
The rule of thumb is, if Gretzky got traded than anyone can get traded...

So with that said, Chi-fans, is there anyway the Hawks trade Kane for something that they currently do not have? Like, would Kane be traded in next few years for a top goalie? Another D to replace Keith? Hot prospects? Hard to imagine but dangle and name like Kane I'm sure you can ask for anything


Is this non-sense serious?

Kane "can" be traded, but WHY would we trade him for a replacement for Keith? Where is Keith going? A top goalie? Why do we need to replace Crawford? I know he has only been able to win 2 Stanley Cups and nearly single-handedly win a third Cup (2014)....what KIND of sense is any of your questions?

ANY trade involving Kane is NOT for a Crow or Keith replacement, because NEITHER NEED to be replaced, but rather for:

-Salary cap relief
-Stocking pipeline with picks and specs

Not a damn thing more and not a damn thing less.

If you are talking about "in a few years" to mean 3+ years we do not know what the situation will be with the Hawks team then so speculating on trades involving a team that currently does not exist is folly.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Sep 26 @ 9:26 AM ET
Probably slowly, third pairing, he may sit some nights too. He made some mistakes here and there on smaller ice against the best competition in the world, Q will keep him on a short leash until he is reasonably sure they're been minimized, but the talent is obviously there
- John Jaeckel


I was less than thrilled with his play in his own zone to be honest. He was over-matched in the game against Canada. Right now I see no chance he is on the 2nd pair....I think third pair will be OK for him though and we'll see if he can develop. I do like his offensive instincts though and he does not appear to be a cowardly wuss like Rundblad.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Sep 26 @ 10:14 AM ET
I was less than thrilled with his play in his own zone to be honest. He was over-matched in the game against Canada. Right now I see no chance he is on the 2nd pair....I think third pair will be OK for him though and we'll see if he can develop. I do like his offensive instincts though and he does not appear to be a cowardly wuss like Rundblad.
- kwolf68

I saw very little of his play. Didn't watch Czech very much. From what I read and hear, I'm going to cut him some slack a bit because he was playing against super talented teams like Canada for example.

I've watched a bit of Europe and liked what I saw from Hossa, Kopitar, and Josi. Josi is really spearheading that defense. Great defenseman. Really like his game.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Sep 26 @ 10:23 AM ET
I was less than thrilled with his play in his own zone to be honest. He was over-matched in the game against Canada. Right now I see no chance he is on the 2nd pair....I think third pair will be OK for him though and we'll see if he can develop. I do like his offensive instincts though and he does not appear to be a cowardly wuss like Rundblad.
- kwolf68

I didn't think he was that bad. He was clearly overwhelmed at times, but that's not really odd since that whole team was out classed and he was getting number one minutes.
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Sep 26 @ 10:30 AM ET
I didn't think he was that bad. He was clearly overwhelmed at times, but that's not really odd since that whole team was out classed and he was getting number one minutes.
- JRoenick97


I think most are overlooking the fact that it was also his first tournament on North American ice since the WJC in 2010

Probably should give him a little slack to adjust to the physicality and timing of the smaller surface.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Sep 26 @ 10:44 AM ET
I think most are overlooking the fact that it was also his first tournament on North American ice since the WJC in 2010

Probably should give him a little slack to adjust to the physicality and timing of the smaller surface.

- hawkeytalkman


And almost no comparison in terms of the level of competition. TVR (assuming he's still around in a month or longer) should make a nice, steadying partner for him. I also think that's the main (only) reason Rozy was re-upped, other than experienced depth. To on-ice mentor and stabilize the kid.
hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Sep 26 @ 10:52 AM ET
And almost no comparison in terms of the level of competition. TVR (assuming he's still around in a month or longer) should make a nice, steadying partner for him. I also think that's the main (only) reason Rozy was re-upped, other than experienced depth. To on-ice mentor and stabilize the kid.
- John Jaeckel


Anyone who also watched the exhibition games (Which were played in Russia), he was excellent and arguably the best dmen on the ice for those games. It wasnt until the games moved to North America that he kind of disappeared back into the fold.

Its harder to for him to adjust because its such a shock of what he is used to and the timing. Guys like OV, Malkin, Panarin, etc can adjust their games on the fly because they know how to play both sheets.

Right now Kempny only knows how to play Euro ice, and he does it very well. Give him a couple months to get comfortable and just pray Q doesnt doghouse him before then
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Sep 26 @ 10:56 AM ET
Chicago Blackhawks ‏@NHLBlackhawks 7m7 minutes ago
#Blackhawks release forwards Bondra, Dahlstrom, Noel and Radke from training camp. The players are set to return to their juniors teams.

no surprises in this round of cuts.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 26 @ 11:09 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 43s44 seconds ago
Marchand extension is 8 years, $49M
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 26 @ 11:10 AM ET
The future is here...a day early

Mark Lazerus ‏@MarkLazerus 2m2 minutes ago
Ville Pokka is back a day early. #Blackhawks
busmaster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 08.06.2010

Sep 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 43s44 seconds ago
Marchand extension is 8 years, $49M

- DarthKane


B's bought in high after his WC performance.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Sep 26 @ 11:24 AM ET
Jen ‏@NHLhistorygirl 12m12 minutes ago
On this date in 2007, #Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz died.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Sep 26 @ 11:29 AM ET
Jen ‏@NHLhistorygirl 12m12 minutes ago
On this date in 2007, #Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz died.

- DarthKane

And Blackhawks nation rejoiced.
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