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Forums :: Blog World :: Peter Tessier: Trouba Requests Trade!
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FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Sep 25 @ 3:40 PM ET
Buffalo Sabres fan here: So, we're kind of the people that sent you Armia and Stafford, so I'm not really buying what you're selling. Armia is a BUST big time, and Stafford is a disappearing player. I don't know much about Copp, but bottom six players are a dime a dozen. I wouldn't say Nurse is unproven anymore, but as of right now I do give the edge to Trouba. Your trade won't work because basically you want to trade Stafford, Armia, and Copp for Puljujarvi who will be replacing Hall in Edmonton's line up. The Oil would be foolish to do that. Essentially, this trade is nothing more than the classic, "I'll give you a package of my garbage for your one very good young player."
- sskkoo1

bingo, but it's not happening. Can everyone get over it. Talk more about if Trouba signs over seas if they play chicken. That's more probable. Then any trade between the oilers and jets.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Sep 25 @ 4:38 PM ET
A member of the Winnipeg media threw out a measuring stick trade of Trouba to Flyers for Provorov. More would be involved but he said that is basically in line with what Winnipeg is looking for.
- mcjags



Then he doesn't get traded, and Winnipeg is stuck with their malcontent. He's just not worth a top 10 or 15 NHL prospect.

Trouba is the best player in the deal. Edmonton still gets an up and coming Armia who showed he can play at this level. He could easily be compared to Yakupov in the potential department. Copp is a solid 3rd, 4th line centre who can kill penalties and can move up and down the line-up as needed. Stuart and Stafford are both serviceable and can provide leadership and both are close to the end of their deals for salary cap purposes both are useful and a second round pick is a major haul.

Nurse is unproven, Yakupov has not developed and Pulijarvi is still an unknown.

Great deal for Edmonton in my opinion.

- TheUltimateJet


Pulju carries the most value of anything listed there.

Laine and Trouba played on World Cup teams. None of the players you send back have not. In my deal Trouba was the only player that played for a World Cup team.

You my friend need to re-evaluate your deal.

- TheUltimateJet



There was a fair bit of debate as to who goes second or third in the draft, Laine or Pulju, for a while. They're pretty close in terms of prospects.

I do agree with you that we would probably have to take on more salary to even the deal out. Mark Fayne may be the bitter pill Jets fans have to swallow in order to make my trade proposal a reality.
- TheUltimateJet


What you'd have to do is drop the idea of getting puljujarvi.
shawzy_111
Joined: 08.12.2012

Sep 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
Here is a list of players that any deal for Trouba likely starts and ends with (as in other parts can be added by either team to make perceived fair value but if one of these players is not coming back to the Jets then the deal won't happen at all):

ANA - Cam Fowler
ANA - Hampus Lindholm
ANA - Shea Theodore

ANA already has tons of young right-shot defencemen and may have trouble fitting in a contract for Trouba, not to mention that removal of any of the above three players creates a problem on the left side for ANA.

ARI - Jacob Chychrun

Jacob Chychrun was just drafted and WPG likely wants a player with more certainty as to their future ceiling as a NHL player.

BOS - Jakub Zboril

See note regarding Chychrun.

CAR - Noah Hanifin
CAR - Haydn Fleury

Hanifin is likely not a player CAR would even consider giving up and Fleury may not have the experience WPG wants.

COL - Nikita Zadorov
COL - Chris Bigras

WPG is not likely to want to trade within the division and both Zadorov and Bigras have had the shine wear off a bit as prospects (in particular, a prospect that has already been traded once such as Zadorov is far less appealing in a trade - see Dano, Marko).

CBJ - Ryan Murray
CBJ - Zach Werenski

CBJ would have to cut off its nose to spite its face here, so to speak, and if I were the WPG management Ryan Murray is not a player I particularly want if there are other options. Werenski I imagine would be a non-starter for CBJ given the esteem he is held in by their organization.

EDM - Oscar Klefbom
EDM - Darnell Nurse

Klefbom doesn't make much sense as EDM surely wants to keep hold of their de-facto top-pairing lefty. Nurse would certainly be a more interesting proposition to both teams, especially if EDM is comfortable with Davidson/Reinhart filling the 3LD/7D positions going into the season. EDM has almost the opposite problem of Winnipeg where they have almost too many left shots and not enough right shots.
MIN - Jonas Brodin

This trade is probably not possible within the division and between two teams that likely view one another as being competition for a playoff challenge.

MTL - Nathan Beaulieu
MTL - Mikhail Sergachev

Neither is a realistic option. If MTL trades Beaulieu then they don't have a partner for Weber. If MTL trades Sergachev then they don't have a replacement for Markov. Add in Weber and Petry as MTL's current right-side options and I doubt Trouba falls into any better of a situation than he currently is in in WPG (not that he gets a say unless a team demands the right to talk contract with him prior to pulling the trigger on the trade).

NSH - Mattias Ekholm

There are countless reasons why this deal wouldn't work, but Ekholm is certainly a player WPG should be interested in.

NYI - Nick Leddy

See the note on Ekholm.

OTT - Thomas Chabot

Like others mentioned previously, Chabot may be slightly too green to pique WPG's interest too much.

PHI - Shanye Gostisbehere
PHI - Ivan Provorov
PHI - Robert Hagg
PHI - Samuel Morin
PHI - Travis Sanheim

PHI looks like a good trading partner for WPG here with no fewer than 5 options to pursue. All of PHI's top defence prospects are left-handed so they are potentially facing a log-jam in the future trying to fit all of these names in and WPG could help them out (and move Trouba out of the conference completely). Provorov and Gostisbehere may be a little too much to ask for without WPG adding more but Morin and Sanheim could be good choices as well.

PIT - Olli Maatta
PIT - Derrick Pouliot

These teams would make surprising trading partners and PIT would be hard pressed to make such a deal without sending significant salary back to WPG. PIT is likely loathe to move either player but they may feel that Trouba is more of a sure thing than two players who have had injuries and developmental concerns in the recent past.

TBL - Nikita Nesterov
TBL - Slater Koekkoek

The biggest obstacle here is Tampa Bay's cap issues as they would need to send significant dollars back to even contemplate acquiring Trouba. From WPG's perspective, I doubt these players are as appealing as some of the other names on this list so they may be best to take a pass on taking back a lesser player than Trouba and a cash dump to even the money.

TOR - Morgan Reilly

If TOR didn't hang up the phone laughing immediately after receiving this trade proposal I would be very surprised. Not only is Reilly's stock higher around the league but then Toronto would need to find a top pair LD to fill the gap. Jake Gardiner is not on the list because last time I checked WPG management is not James Tanner.

VAN - Olli Juolevi

If VAN were able to trade the Sedins and revert to a traditional rebuild model then I would see them holding onto Juolevi but in reality where they are trying to stay competitive for the Sedins they might value the further-developed Trouba more. In any case, I imagine WPG wants someone a little further along on the developmental curve than Juolevi, despite the upside.

*****

In general, the Jets' potential trading partners are other teams with flawed rosters who have excess left-sided defencemen either on the roster or in the system. In general, I don't think the trade request hurts the value that Winnipeg will get for Trouba as young, skilled right-shot defencemen are hard to come by and the Jets are not under pressure to be contenders this year (so not having Trouba in the lineup while things sort themselves out is not the end of the world - in fact it may create more opportunity for a player like Josh Morrissey to play top 4 minutes).
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