To BUFF: Jacob Trouba, Andrew Copp, 2017 3rd Round Pick

To WPG: Rasmus Ristolainen, 2017 2nd Round Pick
- TheUltimateJet

Pretty quick no from Buffalo. Andrew Copp and a third isn't worth Buffalo 2nd. And Ristolainen way better than Trouba.

yes, I know, Trouba doesn't come close to getting Pulju. Tha'ts what I'm saying. But would you be happy with a mid-first for him? No way.

I doubt Toronto would trade for him. You gotta remember expansion draft, and they'll want to protect Gardiner, Rielly, and Zaitsev. No room.

Edmonton could use him, AND protect him, but he's not worth RNH, Draisatl, Pulju, obv McDavid. And i doubt Winnipeg wants Eberle. Who do you trade???
- prock

and Larson was worth Hall?
bottom line is this, young big D with potential are probably the most sought after asset in the nhl over any other position, thus they come with a bigger price tag.

Chevy, i'm assuming will play this like Yzerman did with Drouin, "we will trade you only if we get a deal we like, until then go ahead and sit and wait"
The Jets are always going to think long term and will not be suckered into a crap deal to help win now in September!!

A member of the Winnipeg media threw out a measuring stick trade of Trouba to Flyers for Provorov. More would be involved but he said that is basically in line with what Winnipeg is looking for.

my guess of names that could be included in a deal;

Sanheim - Phiily
Fleury - Carolina
Chychrun - Zona
Zboril - Bruins
Bowey - Caps , Winnipeg kid but I doubt Caps can fit any added cap space

my guess of names that could be included in a deal;

Sanheim - Phiily
Fleury - Carolina
Chychrun - Zona
Zboril - Bruins
Bowey - Caps , Winnipeg kid but I doubt Caps can fit any added cap space
- Ross77

In all seriousness what about a Darnell Nurse & Nail Yakupov combo ?

A quick chat with Buff and Trouba will know his lane real quick.

He will be back...Chevy just has to do something now, we know how much he hates doing anything hockey related, but his hand is forced (again)

In all seriousness what about a Darnell Nurse & Nail Yak combo ?
- Reveen.

no need for yak but I can absolutely see a deal with Nurse, i honestly just dont think the Oilers are interested in moving him

In all seriousness what about a Darnell Nurse & Nail Yakupov combo ?
- Reveen.

I think we should consider making a blockbuster:

To EDM: Jacob Trouba, Drew Stafford, Andrew Copp, Joel Armia, Mark Stuart, 2017 3rd round pick.

To WPG: Darnell Nurse, Nail Yakupov, Jessie Pulijarvi, 2017 6th round pick.

Hey guys ,expect a trade with Detroit! Tatar +,or nyquist, or a first +?but I don't see Detroit passing on this one!!!!!

Hey guys ,expect a trade with Detroit! Tatar +,or nyquist, or a first +?but I don't see Detroit passing on this one!!!!!
- MR.Hunter

Winnipeg doesn't need any forwards, they need defence in return.

Hey guys ,expect a trade with Detroit! Tatar +,or nyquist, or a first +?but I don't see Detroit passing on this one!!!!!
- MR.Hunter

Detroit has nothing Winnipeg wants.

I think we should consider making a blockbuster:

To EDM: Jacob Trouba, Drew Stafford, Andrew Copp, Joel Armia, Mark Stuart, 2017 3rd round pick.

To WPG: Darnell Nurse, Nail Yakupov, Jessie Pulijarvi, 2017 6th round pick.
- TheUltimateJet

Do this!

Santini and him would make a real nice pairing down the road :p
- blizzzard

Boucher, Merrill, and a 2nd 2017.

I think we should consider making a blockbuster:

To EDM: Jacob Trouba, Drew Stafford, Andrew Copp, Joel Armia, Mark Stuart, 2017 3rd round pick.

To WPG: Darnell Nurse, Nail Yakupov, Jessie Pulijarvi, 2017 6th round pick.
- TheUltimateJet

I think we should consider making a blockbuster:

To EDM: Jacob Trouba, Drew Stafford, Andrew Copp, Joel Armia, Mark Stuart, 2017 3rd round pick.

To WPG: Darnell Nurse, Nail Yakupov, Jessie Pulijarvi, 2017 6th round pick.
- TheUltimateJet

I don't think Edmonton could hang up the phone fast enough! But, after the Hall trade, maybe...

I don't think Edmonton could hang up the phone fast enough! But, after the Hall trade, maybe...
- sskkoo1

Trouba is the best player in the deal. Edmonton still gets an up and coming Armia who showed he can play at this level. He could easily be compared to Yakupov in the potential department. Copp is a solid 3rd, 4th line centre who can kill penalties and can move up and down the line-up as needed. Stuart and Stafford are both serviceable and can provide leadership and both are close to the end of their deals for salary cap purposes both are useful and a second round pick is a major haul.

Nurse is unproven, Yakupov has not developed and Pulijarvi is still an unknown.

Great deal for Edmonton in my opinion.

Trouba is the best player in the deal. Edmonton still gets an up and coming Armia who showed he can play at this level. He could easily be compared to Yakupov in the potential department. Copp is a solid 3rd, 4th line centre who can kill penalties and can move up and down the line-up as needed. Stuart and Stafford are both serviceable and can provide leadership and both are close to the end of their deals for salary cap purposes both are useful and a second round pick is a major haul.

Nurse is unproven, Yakupov has not developed and Pulijarvi is still an unknown.

Great deal for Edmonton in my opinion.
- TheUltimateJet

100% agree bud

Trouba is the best player in the deal. Edmonton still gets an up and coming Armia who showed he can play at this level. He could easily be compared to Yakupov in the potential department. Copp is a solid 3rd, 4th line centre who can kill penalties and can move up and down the line-up as needed. Stuart and Stafford are both serviceable and can provide leadership and both are close to the end of their deals for salary cap purposes both are useful and a second round pick is a major haul.

Nurse is unproven, Yakupov has not developed and Pulijarvi is still an unknown.

Great deal for Edmonton in my opinion.
- TheUltimateJet

Nurse has 1 year in the league and his ceiling is higher than troubas. Nurse for Trouba straight across would be fair. So basically you are saying we give you Nail Yakupov, JP and a pick for Copp armia stafford and a pick? lol cmon

Trouba is the best player in the deal. Edmonton still gets an up and coming Armia who showed he can play at this level. He could easily be compared to Yakupov in the potential department. Copp is a solid 3rd, 4th line centre who can kill penalties and can move up and down the line-up as needed. Stuart and Stafford are both serviceable and can provide leadership and both are close to the end of their deals for salary cap purposes both are useful and a second round pick is a major haul.

Nurse is unproven, Yakupov has not developed and Pulijarvi is still an unknown.

Great deal for Edmonton in my opinion.
- TheUltimateJet

Oh, you were serious. Well, let me break down why that deal is awful:

1.) The cap would handcuff the Oilers the rest of the year. Taking on around 12mil and only giving a max of around 6mil (assuming high bonuses) is a no go. Any chance they had at being competitive relies on that roster and no TD additions.

2.) Stuart is an anchor on literally everyone he plays with (namely Trouba) and has negative value when you consider he still has another year. He's trash and not even an NHL-level defender anymore.

3.) Stafford is a 3rd liner on a competitive team. Not exactly a prime asset.

4.) Trouba is indefinitely better and I certainly want him on the Oilers but potential-wise, Nurse is comparable. This trade-off would essentially be an acceleration of the timetable and a better fit (RHD) for Edmonton and a redo, a better fit (LHD), and a free expansion-exempted player for Winnpeg. Trouba has more value, but not nearly as much as you assume here.

5.) Copp is a 4th liner with the potential to maybe be a 3rd line C down the road (though not likely in Edmonton).

6.) Value-wise, Armia and Yak are practically a wash as you said.

7.) Puljujarvi is among the most blue-chip of prospects in the league and you act as though he's a minor piece in the deal (you stated "he's still an unknown"). Here's how your trade looks from a reverse perspective:

To EDM: Trouba, Laine, Armia, and a 6th

To WPG: Nurse, Pouliot, Yakupov, Fayne, Caggiula, a 1st (to make up for the difference between Trouba and Nurse), and a 3rd

Would you do that? Guaranteed no.

Nurse has 1 year in the league and his ceiling is higher than troubas. Nurse for Trouba straight across would be fair. So basically you are saying we give you Nail Yakupov, JP and a pick for Copp armia stafford and a pick? lol cmon
- benmacw

In what world? If anything, Trouba's ceiling is higher thanks to having produced 20+ points in an NHL season. They might be close, but Trouba is much further along in development and plays the right side (less common than LHD).

Oh, you were serious. Well, let me break down why that deal is awful:

1.) The cap would handcuff the Oilers the rest of the year. Taking on around 12mil and only giving a max of around 6mil (assuming high bonuses) is a no go. Any chance they had at being competitive relies on that roster and no TD additions.

2.) Stuart is an anchor on literally everyone he plays with (namely Trouba) and has negative value when you consider he still has another year. He's trash and not even an NHL-level defender anymore.

3.) Stafford is a 3rd liner on a competitive team. Not exactly a prime asset.

4.) Trouba is indefinitely better and I certainly want him on the Oilers but potential-wise, Nurse is comparable. This trade-off would essentially be an acceleration of the timetable and a better fit (RHD) for Edmonton and a redo, a better fit (LHD), and a free expansion-exempted player for Winnpeg. Trouba has more value, but not nearly as much as you assume here.

5.) Copp is a 4th liner with the potential to maybe be a 3rd line C down the road (though not likely in Edmonton).

6.) Value-wise, Armia and Yak are practically a wash as you said.

7.) Puljujarvi is among the most blue-chip of prospects in the league and you act as though he's a minor piece in the deal (you stated "he's still an unknown"). Here's how your trade looks from a reverse perspective:

To EDM: Trouba, Laine, Armia, and a 6th

To WPG: Nurse, Pouliot, Yakupov, Fayne, Caggiula, a 1st (to make up for the difference between Trouba and Nurse), and a 3rd

Would you do that? Guaranteed no.
- MaximumBone

Laine and Trouba played on World Cup teams. None of the players you send back have not. In my deal Trouba was the only player that played for a World Cup team.

You my friend need to re-evaluate your deal.

Laine and Trouba played on World Cup teams. None of the players you send back have not. In my deal Trouba was the only player that played for a World Cup team.

You my friend need to re-evaluate your deal.
- TheUltimateJet

Is that the only gauge of value now-a-days? Lauri Korpikoski also played on a World Cup team. Are you telling me that makes him more valuable or that if Puljujarvi had been healthy that he wouldn't have been selected to play over him (among others)?

You may want to re-evaluate your valuation of Jets assets. I get that Edmonton "needs D" but they're not as desperate after that Hall deal. If you believe you'll get a better offer than Nurse and our 2017 1st for Trouba and a conditional 2nd or 3rd, then say that, but your deal isn't remotely fair value and makes absolutely zero sense for Edmonton.

Is that the only gauge of value now-a-days? Lauri Korpikoski also played on a World Cup team. Are you telling me that makes him more valuable or that if Puljujarvi had been healthy that he wouldn't have been selected to play over him (among others)?

You may want to re-evaluate your valuation of Jets assets. I get that Edmonton "needs D" but they're not as desperate after that Hall deal. If you believe you'll get a better offer than Nurse and our 2017 1st for Trouba and a conditional 2nd or 3rd, then say that, but your deal isn't remotely fair value and makes absolutely zero sense for Edmonton.
- MaximumBone

I do agree with you that we would probably have to take on more salary to even the deal out. Mark Fayne may be the bitter pill Jets fans have to swallow in order to make my trade proposal a reality.

I do agree with you that we would probably have to take on more salary to even the deal out. Mark Fayne may be the bitter pill Jets fans have to swallow in order to make my trade proposal a reality.
- TheUltimateJet

That was only one of the number of issues with the deal, buddy. I'll put it this way; the best deal I can see Edmonton offering is Nurse and a conditional 1st (this year's if they make the POs or next year's if they don't) for Trouba. It may not be the best deal you get offered (Philly can likely top that), but it's as far as I could conceivably see Edmonton going. As much as I'd love to have Trouba, giving up anything more wouldn't make sense- and even that deal would be a tough pill to swallow.

I just think Nurse would look incredible on that blueline a few years down the road. I just see the deal as mutually beneficial. Just imagine these pairing behind comparably potent offenses:

Enstrom/JM- Byfuglien
Nurse- Myers

Klefbom- Larsson
Sekera/Davidson- Trouba

What a rivalry that could become

Laine- Schiefele- Ehlers
Connor- Little- Wheeler
Petan- Roslovic- Armia

Lucic- McDavid- Eberle
Maroon- Draisaitl- Puljujarvi
Pouliot- Nugey- Caggiula

Trouba is the best player in the deal. Edmonton still gets an up and coming Armia who showed he can play at this level. He could easily be compared to Yakupov in the potential department. Copp is a solid 3rd, 4th line centre who can kill penalties and can move up and down the line-up as needed. Stuart and Stafford are both serviceable and can provide leadership and both are close to the end of their deals for salary cap purposes both are useful and a second round pick is a major haul.

Nurse is unproven, Yakupov has not developed and Pulijarvi is still an unknown.

Great deal for Edmonton in my opinion.
- TheUltimateJet

Buffalo Sabres fan here: So, we're kind of the people that sent you Armia and Stafford, so I'm not really buying what you're selling. Armia is a BUST big time, and Stafford is a disappearing player. I don't know much about Copp, but bottom six players are a dime a dozen. I wouldn't say Nurse is unproven anymore, but as of right now I do give the edge to Trouba. Your trade won't work because basically you want to trade Stafford, Armia, and Copp for Puljujarvi who will be replacing Hall in Edmonton's line up. The Oil would be foolish to do that. Essentially, this trade is nothing more than the classic, "I'll give you a package of my garbage for your one very good young player."