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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 2:19 PM ET
why?
- Michael Pachla



Risto is a "#1" yet
6mil per tops... and idk if he should even get that
He struggled in the 2nd half of last season
His potential is still there,
But he's far from proven still

If it wasn't for all these other young defensemen being signed to big deals,
I'd say Risto actually deserves a 2-3yr bridge deal for around 3-3.5mil
Slapjackzack
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.02.2016

Sep 23 @ 2:31 PM ET
Risto is a "#1" yet
6mil per tops... and idk if he should even get that
He struggled in the 2nd half of last season
His potential is still there,
But he's far from proven still

If it wasn't for all these other young defensemen being signed to big deals,
I'd say Risto actually deserves a 2-3yr bridge deal for around 3-3.5mil

- jdfitz77
why so we have to pay him like subban got paid afterwards..... Genius idea.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 2:35 PM ET
why so we have to pay him like subban got paid afterwards..... Genius idea.
- Slapjackzack




U probably would've said the same thing about the deal we gave Myers
How'd that work out?

To be clear,
I'm not saying 3.5 for 2 years is what will happen
These other deals have made that unrealistic
6yrs, 5.5mil
Done deal
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 23 @ 2:38 PM ET
U probably would've said the same thing about the deal we gave Myers
How'd that work out?

To be clear,
I'm not saying 3.5 for 2 years is what will happen
These other deals have made that unrealistic
6yrs, 5.5mil
Done deal

- jdfitz77

Awful considering what we got back for him. But you know, those things happen to athletes
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 2:51 PM ET
Awful considering what we got back for him. But you know, those things happen to athletes
- sbroads24



Kinda looks like the team is all set to start the season
No one coming in on a PTO

Looks like 1 forward spot open, bottom 6/ extra skater
And possibly the 7th defenseman slot

Goaltending holds up & we finish somewhere between 7th-11th
If it fails, we pick top10, maybe top5 if it's really bad
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
A couple takes from Camp so far...


Reinhart centering Kane & Nylander
1) doubt they'd have Kane with those 2 unless they were planning on him being here for a bit
2) Reinhart at center, hmmmm....
3) even if it's not done this year, are they seeing how the chemistry could be for a 3rd scoring line for next year?

I like it


Larsson centering Ennis & Okposo
1) Ennis back at LW
2) seeing how Larson looks w some legit talent on the wings, but why?
-is he our future #3 center (Girgensons being traded?)
-are we just taking a look to see if he's gonna fit into a top9 role or 4th line?

Interesting

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 23 @ 3:32 PM ET
Kinda looks like the team is all set to start the season
No one coming in on a PTO

Looks like 1 forward spot open, bottom 6/ extra skater
And possibly the 7th defenseman slot

Goaltending holds up & we finish somewhere between 7th-11th
If it fails, we pick top10, maybe top5 if it's really bad

- jdfitz77

I think we can either be really good, or really underwhelming.

So many unknowns.

My one certainty, people will talk about Eichel as a top 10 player after this season
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:38 PM ET
I think we can either be really good, or really underwhelming.

So many unknowns.

My one certainty, people will talk about Eichel as a top 10 player after this season

- sbroads24


Im counting on Lehner having a break out year.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
I think we can either be really good, or really underwhelming.

So many unknowns.

My one certainty, people will talk about Eichel as a top 10 player after this season

- sbroads24


Im counting on Lehner having a break out year.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:46 PM ET
I think we can either be really good, or really underwhelming.

So many unknowns.

My one certainty, people will talk about Eichel as a top 10 player after this season

- sbroads24



Idk that Eichel explodes this year
I think he's around 30goals & 80pts


Any thoughts on Reinhart playing center in Camp so far?
Maybe we are gonna run the "3 scoring lines" thing this year?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
I think we can either be really good, or really underwhelming.

So many unknowns.

My one certainty, people will talk about Eichel as a top 10 player after this season

- sbroads24




Idk that Eichel explodes this year
I think he's around 30goals & 80pts

Any thoughts on Reinhart playing center in Camp so far?
Maybe we are gonna run the "3 scoring lines" thing this year?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
A couple takes from Camp so far...


Reinhart centering Kane & Nylander
1) doubt they'd have Kane with those 2 unless they were planning on him being here for a bit
2) Reinhart at center, hmmmm....
3) even if it's not done this year, are they seeing how the chemistry could be for a 3rd scoring line for next year?

I like it


Larsson centering Ennis & Okposo
1) Ennis back at LW
2) seeing how Larson looks w some legit talent on the wings, but why?
-is he our future #3 center (Girgensons being traded?)
-are we just taking a look to see if he's gonna fit into a top9 role or 4th line?

Interesting

- jdfitz77


These are interesting. I really like the Kane-Reinhart-Nylander idea. One guy to get the puck, one guy to dish the puck and one guy to burry it.

Can't find the full lines from camp though, anyone know where to find the complete training camp lines?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:52 PM ET
I think we can either be really good, or really underwhelming.

So many unknowns.

My one certainty, people will talk about Eichel as a top 10 player after this season

- sbroads24



Idk that Eichel explodes this year
I think he's around 30goals & 80pts

Any thoughts on Reinhart playing center in Camp so far?
Maybe we are gonna run the "3 scoring lines" thing this year?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Sep 23 @ 3:56 PM ET
80 points would be top 15 in scoring at least IMO.

If we have an 80 point center, and a 60 point center (O'Reilly)

and two 20-25 goal winger (2 of Kane, Okposo, Ennis, Reinhart)

We will contend for playoffs
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:57 PM ET
These are interesting. I really like the Kane-Reinhart-Nylander idea. One guy to get the puck, one guy to dish the puck and one guy to burry it.

Can't find the full lines from camp though, anyone know where to find the complete training camp lines?

- RhinoFan



Camp lines tweeted by Vogel

https://twitter.com/buffn...status/779307356068966400
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Sep 23 @ 3:58 PM ET
80 points would be top 15 in scoring at least IMO.

If we have an 80 point center, and a 60 point center (O'Reilly)

and two 20-25 goal winger (2 of Kane, Okposo, Ennis, Reinhart)

We will contend for playoffs

- sbroads24




IF
the goaltending holds up

And I think all 6 of those guys get 20+ goals
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Sep 23 @ 4:00 PM ET
A couple takes from Camp so far...


Reinhart centering Kane & Nylander
1) doubt they'd have Kane with those 2 unless they were planning on him being here for a bit
2) Reinhart at center, hmmmm....
3) even if it's not done this year, are they seeing how the chemistry could be for a 3rd scoring line for next year?

I like it


Larsson centering Ennis & Okposo
1) Ennis back at LW
2) seeing how Larson looks w some legit talent on the wings, but why?
-is he our future #3 center (Girgensons being traded?)
-are we just taking a look to see if he's gonna fit into a top9 role or 4th line?

Interesting

- jdfitz77


My guess is that Reinhart is at C right now because ROR isn't there and I don't think Eichel is there yet either, though if he wasn't today I would think he would be tomorrow.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Sep 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
My guess is that Reinhart is at C right now because ROR isn't there and I don't think Eichel is there yet either, though if he wasn't today I would think he would be tomorrow.
- HonkFortheGoose


I didn't see him on the twitter post of the lines. I was thinking the same re:Sam at center.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 23 @ 4:10 PM ET
Camp lines tweeted by Vogel

https://twitter.com/buffn...status/779307356068966400

- jdfitz77


Thank you.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Sep 23 @ 5:09 PM ET

- jochfr



Holy Sh!t
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Sep 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
Not to change the subject....

I completely forgot that we traded for Cole Schneider. Looks like he'd have to clear waivers to go to Rochester this year.

Thoughts?

- HonkFortheGoose


I understand he had a good game in the scrimmage this morning. And Nilsson was sharp in goal.

That's all I got.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Sep 23 @ 5:40 PM ET
Morgan rielly got 5 mil for 6 years

Oli Maata got 4.3 mil for 6 years



Risto should get something at the same length in between those two salaries.

- Sabresfan-365


I think Risto should get $5.5 +/- $250K. Anything over $6.0 is definitely over-payment in my books. $5.0 or under is a bargain
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 23 @ 5:44 PM ET
My guess is that Reinhart is at C right now because ROR isn't there and I don't think Eichel is there yet either, though if he wasn't today I would think he would be tomorrow.
- HonkFortheGoose


Yeah, it's also the first day of training camp. I thought I saw Girgensons at a 1C too.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Sep 23 @ 5:46 PM ET
So I just watched Ghostbusters(the new one) last night. Wtf are people on about? I thought it was pretty good.

I kind of wish I had seen it in theaters though; the effects were spectacular.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

Sep 23 @ 5:48 PM ET
I think Risto should get $5.5 +/- $250K. Anything over $6.0 is definitely over-payment in my books. $5.0 or under is a bargain
- SabreWest


5.5 is fair.
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