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kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:37 PM ET
Gonna be blunt about this: you shouldn't be. There is a less than zero chance that that's going to happen.
- eichiefs9



Isnt that like saying infiniti plus 1? Usually rebuilding teams with not many propspects have to trade players that teams wants. Unfortunately for them noone wants Girardi
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:38 PM ET
Hank has a NMC, he isn't going anywhere.

No one is taking Staals contract

- mdw7413



You dont think Henrik would wave it to go to a cup team?

The Habs took Gomez' contract lest we forget...
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Sep 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
You dont think Henrik would wave it to go to a cup team?

The Habs took Gomez' contract lest we forget...

- kindlyrick


No cup team will have the cap to fit Hank.

Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 22 @ 2:39 PM ET
I would literally bet everything I owned, everything my GF owned and every last penny and asset my parents own that he is not traded.

Maybe Staal, but nobody is taking that cyclops and his putrid contract.

- eichiefs9


I hear Boston is looking for D. Staal for any one of Zboril, DeBrusk or Senyshyn.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
No cup team will have the cap to fit Hank.
- mdw7413



We havent even started the season......teams can trade and as it was spoken about on here LTIR.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:40 PM ET
No cup team will have the cap to fit Hank.
- mdw7413


arizona will next summer.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
Isnt that like saying infiniti plus 1? Usually rebuilding teams with not many propspects have to trade players that teams wants. Unfortunately for them noone wants Girardi
- kindlyrick

The Rangers are not nearly as barren in the prospect department as you think. They may not have any stand-out, blue chip prospects but they have a handful of decent guys in the pipeline and some young talent on the roster.

Not to mention that for awhile now they have been a premier destination for free agents and players requesting trades. They may not build through the draft like some other teams, but they'll be able to keep a reasonably steady flow of talent directed at their roster.

There is seriously not a chance in the world that they even consider asking him to waive his NMC.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
I hear Boston is looking for D. Staal for any one of Zboril, DeBrusk or Senyshyn.
- Wildschwein

Boston got a D...

...right in their A, when Sweeney passed on Barzal and Connor to draft those three boneheads.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
We havent even started the season......teams can trade and as it was spoken about on here LTIR.
- kindlyrick


by end of camp you have to be compliant before ltir, so if you're over right now and would be under after putting someone on ltir, you still have to be able to fit their cap hit in when camp breaks before you can put them on injured reserve. if we were 3 mil over with grabovski set to go on ltir, we'd still have to make room to fit 3 mil under the cap for a day before putting him on injured reserve. so while you can be over, you have to do some juggling for a day before the season starts.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
arizona will next summer.
- Isles_since_6


Lundqvist and Buchnevich for Duclair.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
Hank has a NMC, he isn't going anywhere.

No one is taking Staals contract

- mdw7413


Hank will be backing up on the Isles when we win the Cup. Revenge for stealing Healy.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
The Rangers are not nearly as barren in the prospect department as you think. They may not have any stand-out, blue chip prospects but they have a handful of decent guys in the pipeline and some young talent on the roster. Not to mention that for awhile now they have been a premier destination for free agents and players requesting trades. They may not build through the draft like some other teams, but they'll be able to keep a reasonably steady flow of talent directed at their roster.

There is seriously not a chance in the world that they even consider asking him to waive his NMC.

- eichiefs9



They definitely can attract UFA's.......but that hasn't "worked" since 94. Thats a long time ago to build through free agency. Decent talent doesnt bode well. The isles top 5 prospects are better than any Ranger prospects.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
arizona will next summer.
- Isles_since_6

Hi James!
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
Boston got a D...

...right in their A, when Sweeney passed on Barzal and Connor to draft those three boneheads.

- eichiefs9


Which makes such a trade all the more plausible.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:43 PM ET
by end of camp you have to be compliant before ltir, so if you're over right now and would be under after putting someone on ltir, you still have to be able to fit their cap hit in when camp breaks before you can put them on injured reserve. if we were 3 mil over with grabovski set to go on ltir, we'd still have to make room to fit 3 mil under the cap for a day before putting him on injured reserve. so while you can be over, you have to do some juggling for a day before the season starts.
- Isles_since_6



Not talkin about Grabo
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
Hi James!
- eichiefs9


hey I crossed out the cup team part of that reply
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
Hank will be backing up on the Isles when we win the Cup. Revenge for stealing Healy.
- ses111



I dont want that bum Henrik
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:44 PM ET
Not talkin about Grabo
- kindlyrick


I used that as an example. If Hank goes to a team that's over the cap in the summer with a player to go on ltir, they still have to make it fit UNDER the cap, prior to ltir.

long term injured reserve was designed to help a team that suffers an injury to a key player during the season, by allowing them temporary space to replace that player in trade or with a call up and not exceed the cap (so teams wouldn't have to play short handed), not to help overspending teams bury sh!t players during the summer
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:45 PM ET
I used that as an example. If Hank goes to a team that's over the cap in the summer with a player to go on ltir, they still have to make it fit UNDER the cap, prior to ltir.
- Isles_since_6



I said that teams can trade mid season and make room......they can also then add players to LTIR.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:45 PM ET
They definitely can attract UFA's.......but that hasn't "worked" since 94. Thats a long time ago to build through free agency. Decent talent doesnt bode well. The isles top 5 prospects are better than any Ranger prospects.
- kindlyrick

It worked pretty well when they went all the way to the Cup Final a few years ago. Or the ECF trip the year after.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 22 @ 2:45 PM ET
The Rangers are not nearly as barren in the prospect department as you think. They may not have any stand-out, blue chip prospects but they have a handful of decent guys in the pipeline and some young talent on the roster.

Not to mention that for awhile now they have been a premier destination for free agents and players requesting trades. They may not build through the draft like some other teams, but they'll be able to keep a reasonably steady flow of talent directed at their roster.

There is seriously not a chance in the world that they even consider asking him to waive his NMC.

- eichiefs9


As long as Liam Neeson and MDW's girl can make videos begging players to sign the Rangers will be fine.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
hey I crossed out the cup team part of that reply
- Isles_since_6



I dont get it.....is your name Jim.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Sep 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
As long as Liam Neeson and MDW's girl can make videos begging players to sign the Rangers will be fine.
- ses111


HE DID NOT?!?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
It worked pretty well when they went all the way to the Cup Final a few years ago. Or the ECF trip the year after.
- eichiefs9



Mannnnnnnnnnnn.........does anyone remember who goes to the ECF??? Are you gonna wear that hat? If you dont win the cup, you failed. Period.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 2:46 PM ET
I said that teams can trade mid season and make room......they can also then add players to LTIR.
- kindlyrick


thought you were talking about right now, if you're talking during the season then we're on the same page.
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