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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 11:48 AM ET
That is your perceived cost as a fan...not actual NHL cost. Completely different
- YuenglingJagr


What is "actual NHL cost?" Do they use those fancy numbers that fans aren't allowed to have?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 22 @ 11:49 AM ET
It has 8 major bodies, a few million smaller ones, and rotates a central axis?

I suppose that's close. Sadly, Garth and Tanner are 2 of those 8 major bodies.

- jmatchett383


Objects full of gas going in circles (ellipses) around each other
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 22 @ 11:50 AM ET
What is "actual NHL cost?" Do they use those fancy numbers that fans aren't allowed to have?
- jmatchett383


Hint: you've posted the algorithm already
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 11:51 AM ET
Uhhh both?

You cannot wait to see how it turns out to judge a pick because that isn't a part of the decision when the pick was made. If goulbourne makes it to the NHL, good for him. If the Flyers picked someone more skilled with the puck and he makes it to the NHL, then that is better.

- YuenglingJagr



Yes, but that does not make the Goulbourne pick, a bad pick.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 22 @ 11:52 AM ET
Yes, but that does not not make the Goulbourne pick, a bad pick.
- MJL


Agreed
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 11:54 AM ET
Just gave $3 to Wikipedia. If you've ever used it refute something on Hockeybuzz, I urge you to do the same.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 22 @ 12:15 PM ET
I was at the game last night and I was impressed with Goulbourne. He stood out the most to me. That and Morin is facking huge
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Sep 22 @ 12:27 PM ET
And we have officially reach that point


- jmatchett383


Which is why I went back to my usual stalker mode.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 22 @ 12:34 PM ET
I like turtles


^
About as relevant as anything else around here
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 22 @ 12:40 PM ET
I like turtles


^
About as relevant as anything else around here

- BiggE



Finally some good hockey talk. Good discussion.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 12:48 PM ET
Finally some good hockey talk. Good discussion.
- MJL




Now let's spend 2 hours discussing if Casey Jones was a good 3rd round pick.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Sep 22 @ 12:52 PM ET
And your argument is also that because Goulbourne is not viewed as a skilled guy, he was viewed as a safe pick. Is that the case? That is certainly how it is perceived.

Goulbourne was no safer than many of the skilled guys. He was a face puncher that has turned out to be a face puncher that plays a smart game. His development has nothing to do with whether or not he was a safe pick.

- YuenglingJagr

What actually bugged me about the pick was when Holmgren said something along the lines of "He reminds us of Zac (Rinaldo)." hmmm ...wouldn't that be more of a reason NOT to pick him there? haha ... I guess at that point in time Rinaldo had actually had a decent season drawing a lot of penalties.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Sep 22 @ 12:56 PM ET
I was at the game last night and I was impressed with Goulbourne. He stood out the most to me. That and Morin is facking huge
- Vukota

Did Pullock play?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 12:58 PM ET
What actually bugged me about the pick was when Holmgren said something along the lines of "He reminds us of Zac (Rinaldo)." hmmm ...wouldn't that be more of a reason NOT to pick him there? haha ... I guess at that point in time Rinaldo had actually had a decent season drawing a lot of penalties.
- Cable2k


The exact quote was, "Our scouts call him Z-2," referring to Rinaldo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
Did Pullock play?
- Cable2k


No, he's had 2 years of pro experience (according to Bill, was limited to 0-1 year).
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
Did Pullock play?
- Cable2k


No
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
Finally some good hockey talk. Good discussion.
- MJL

Because endlessly debating a 3rd round pick from 2 years ago is just so riveting
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
Did Pullock play?
- Cable2k


Future-Flyer Ryan Pulock
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Sep 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
Z2 will look good in the O&B
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 1:04 PM ET
Future-Flyer Ryan Pulock
- YuenglingJagr


I'm okay with the Morin pick, but I REALLY wanted them to take Pulock.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 1:05 PM ET
Z2 will look good in the O&B
- aightwebang17


I am hoping for Zolnierczyk2.
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Sep 22 @ 1:07 PM ET
I'm okay with the Morin pick, but I REALLY wanted them to take Pulock.
- jmatchett383

At this point in time who has progressed more? I haven't heard much about Pulock since that draft. But I don't follow the Isles closely.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Sep 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
I am hoping for Zolnierczyk2.
- jmatchett383

Harry the Z will always be my boy
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
At this point in time who has progressed more? I haven't heard much about Pulock since that draft. But I don't follow the Isles closely.
- Cable2k


Pulock is closer to a finished product. Just finished his second pro season, got into a bunch of games with the Islanders and pounded home a couple of goals.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 22 @ 1:11 PM ET
At this point in time who has progressed more? I haven't heard much about Pulock since that draft. But I don't follow the Isles closely.
- Cable2k


I would say Pulock at this point. He was very good until he got hurt against the Panthers in the 1st rd. He is really gonna help the PP once he gets a full year under his belt. Not saying Morin won't be good. Never really saw him play until last night. Man is that dude big
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