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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 20 @ 1:38 PM ET
are you going for brad or angelina?
- YuenglingJagr


I wouldn't go after either. I'm also the give me the plain american/canadian girl not the high maintenance jet set type.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 20 @ 1:38 PM ET
are you going for brad or angelina?
- YuenglingJagr


Orphans around the world just took a breath of relief.
bsw31usa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lindbergh31RIP!!!, PA
Joined: 01.12.2016

Sep 20 @ 1:38 PM ET
I just love the Giroux trade discussions that ignore the fact he has an NMC.

I wonder if Detroit wish they traded Yzerman when was 28 and past his prime.

- Feanor


I would be willing to bet that most/if not all/ players with a MNC would be willing to waive if asked. Most would view it as no longer being wanted by the team and they would want to go to a team that wants them. IMO

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 20 @ 1:44 PM ET
I would be willing to bet that most/if not all/ players with a MNC would be willing to waive if asked. Most would view it as no longer being wanted by the team and they would want to go to a team that wants them. IMO
- bsw31usa


Not really, players want stability. G isn't Hartnell who was hated by the coach in place. G is supposed to be liked by Hakstol and vice versa. So there would really have to be some other issue to get him to waive his clause.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 20 @ 1:48 PM ET
I would love to hear opinions on the following.

Since, I believe, the good young defensemen and goaltenders in our system will not be hitting their prime productive years for quite a few years/if at all, I'm afraid that Giroux and Voracek will be past theirs. If possible, I would be all for a Giroux for Gaureadu type move? Same with a Jake for ? type move? Get some younger offensive players to 'grow up' with our prospects.

What say y'all?

- bsw31usa



That is not the way it is going to work. They are drafting and developing talent not trading talent for younger talent. The key pieces of skill and leadership will stay and help usher in a new era of Flyers players and as the defense matures there is plenty of time to figure out star players on offense. They can make those trades to supplement the team when they have a surplus of talent at other positions, not when they are starving for it.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Sep 20 @ 1:51 PM ET
That is not the way it is going to work. They are drafting and developing talent not trading talent for younger talent. The key pieces of skill and leadership will stay and help usher in a new era of Flyers players and as the defense matures there is plenty of time to figure out star players on offense. They can make those trades to supplement the team when they have a surplus of talent at other positions, not when they are starving for it.
- YuenglingJagr



Getzlaf and Perry seem to continue to produce at 31.

The only way I am moving Giroux now is if I am getting a package that you can't say no to. It would have to be a complete win on the Flyers side.

arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Sep 20 @ 1:59 PM ET
Wayne Simmonds will be traded before G and Jake if any of the three are moved in future years imo. If he continues to elevate his game and repeats a 30 goal season, I'm not entirely sure we'd be able to afford his deserved raise after 18-19 season
bsw31usa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lindbergh31RIP!!!, PA
Joined: 01.12.2016

Sep 20 @ 2:01 PM ET
That is not the way it is going to work. They are drafting and developing talent not trading talent for younger talent. The key pieces of skill and leadership will stay and help usher in a new era of Flyers players and as the defense matures there is plenty of time to figure out star players on offense. They can make those trades to supplement the team when they have a surplus of talent at other positions, not when they are starving for it.
- YuenglingJagr



Umm ah Richards for Simmonds and Schenn, Carter for Jake, Coots, etc. How'd they work out for us?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 20 @ 2:05 PM ET
Umm ah Richards for Simmonds and Schenn, Carter for Jake, Coots, etc. How'd they work out for us?
- bsw31usa


Richards deal was damn good. Especially with the decline. You saw signs of real issues while he was even with the Flyers.

I cant lean one way or another on the Carter move. I do think he doesn't become the player he is today if he stays in Philadelphia. The trade was a wake-up call.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 20 @ 2:09 PM ET
I jokingly told a friend I had to change my dating plans. They shook their head at me. I guess I don't have a chance.
- dragonoffrost




I prefer my skeletons not insane.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 20 @ 2:09 PM ET
Umm ah Richards for Simmonds and Schenn, Carter for Jake, Coots, etc. How'd they work out for us?
- bsw31usa


Richards and Carter were in management dog house.

G and Jake aren't.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Sep 20 @ 2:13 PM ET
I prefer my skeletons not insane.
- MBFlyerfan

Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:17 PM ET
Beer? Eww. Whiskey please.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:18 PM ET
G and Jake are young and talented. You don't trade that away.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Sep 20 @ 2:26 PM ET
Nichushkin AND Jason art ross Akeson both going to the KHL.

I think the NHL will not survive this.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 20 @ 2:27 PM ET
Umm ah Richards for Simmonds and Schenn, Carter for Jake, Coots, etc. How'd they work out for us?
- bsw31usa


Those deals were more about the culture of the team and the questionable leadership of the Flyers. Unless you think that management has issues with Giroux and Voracek.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 20 @ 2:29 PM ET
I would be willing to bet that most/if not all/ players with a MNC would be willing to waive if asked. Most would view it as no longer being wanted by the team and they would want to go to a team that wants them. IMO
- bsw31usa


Yeah, I'm sure Giroux is just dying to move to Calgary.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:38 PM ET
Carson WINtz
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:39 PM ET
G and Jake are young and talented. You don't trade that away.
- Pixote Andolini

Giroux is like Dan Marino
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Sep 20 @ 2:40 PM ET
Carson WINtz
- 2Real

wince
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 20 @ 2:46 PM ET
Giroux is like Dan Marino
- 2Real


Giroux is a spokesperson for Isotoner gloves?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 20 @ 2:47 PM ET
Giroux is a spokesperson for Isotoner gloves?
- johndewar

Is he? Interesting, but I was talking about sports.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 20 @ 2:47 PM ET
Giroux is a spokesperson for Isotoner gloves?
- johndewar


He's going to be kidnapped in the next Jim Carrey blockbuster.
Assuming Carrey's not in jail.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Sep 20 @ 2:47 PM ET
Nichushkin AND Jason art ross Akeson both going to the KHL.

I think the NHL will not survive this.

- Marc D


What is Russian for "Art Ross"?

Asking for a friend.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 20 @ 2:50 PM ET
What is Russian for "Art Ross"?

Asking for a friend.

- johndewar


Either "Putin" or "Art Ross."
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