Bill,
Thank you so much for your thoughtful explanation. This blog should be quoted on every Flyers internet forum and posted in every WFC section.

That leap of faith is what was forced with Ghost last year by the injury to Streit. It seems that they are ready to take that leap on Provorov if and only if he WOWs them during the preseason. If there is even a .01% question he can handle it it seems he's back in Brandon. I kind of like the idea of making him blow them away and I hope the others are on the same rule. No one gets handed a spot on this team just by outplaying who we got. They need to be performing at the level expected of them or else we use those we have and let them develop further at the level they can be placed. It sucks that that level for Provorov is the WHL but those are the rules. Morin, Hagg, Sanheim also should have to WOW the brass before they get their shots.

We got 7 NHL defensemen from last season still on this roster. They should play here unless someone REALLY forces their way onto the team. This season isn't the be all end all we are still a 7/8 seed in reality so why force something you don't need to.
- dragonoffrost

The leap of face was forced with Ghost I 100% agree. It was the perfect situation with him and they were able to shelter him and let him do his thing on the PP.

I do not think the Provorov decision will be strictly based on how he plays these preseason games. I think everyone is expecting to be able to watch him during the preseason and see a noticeable difference and reason for him to stay on the Flyers. Personally, I think the evaluation will come down to whether they think he is ready for the NHL from a personal standpoint as well. How he carries himself, the physical maturity, the mental toughness.

Hexy's right that overcooking is a myth. His growth won't be stunted, nothing bad will happen. It's just probably a wasted development year where he could grow his game tenfold in the NHL vs WHL. Not to mention, it helps stagger the d prospects.

For every rookie, save for a select few, making the jump to the NHL is like jumping into cold water. You will never be fully prepared. If Provy isn't prepared this season, after everything he did, how would he be more prepared next offseason dominating kids again? Then why not just go to the AHL after next year too? Every prospect is different, but at some point it just takes a leap of faith and trust in the prospect.
- Mononoke

Growing his game tenfold? It is just a steeper learning curve. A wasted year of development makes it seem like you're suggesting he wont reach his full potential by going back to the WHL

The leap of face was forced with Ghost I 100% agree. It was the perfect situation with him and they were able to shelter him and let him do his thing on the PP.

I do not think the Provorov decision will be strictly based on how he plays these preseason games. I think everyone is expecting to be able to watch him during the preseason and see a noticeable difference and reason for him to stay on the Flyers. Personally, I think the evaluation will come down to whether they think he is ready for the NHL from a personal standpoint as well. How he carries himself, the physical maturity, the mental toughness.
- YuenglingJagr

No doubt that also plays a huge part.

Growing his game tenfold? It is just a steeper learning curve. A wasted year of development makes it seem like you're suggesting he wont reach his full potential by going back to the WHL
- YuenglingJagr

Two years of BCHL, two years of college hockey, and then a half season in the WHL PRIOR to two more full seasons in the AHL didnt seem to hinder Duncan Keith.

Two years of BCHL, two years of college hockey, and then a half season in the WHL PRIOR to two more full seasons in the AHL didnt seem to hinder Duncan Keith.
- jak521

Yeah, but just think how good he could have been if they hadn't hindered him like that.

Besides Provorov, they get a good look at Morin and Sanheim as well with some of the guys away at the worlds....Hopefully one of these guys are ready....Sometimes a kid comes to camp and shows a huge leap. ie Colton Parayko , Roustallanen ...all kids develop different and at different times. Hextall has his way of doing things and considering where they have come from when he took over I'm fine with his patience.

Two years of BCHL, two years of college hockey, and then a half season in the WHL PRIOR to two more full seasons in the AHL didnt seem to hinder Duncan Keith.
- jak521

But what if it did? yikes!

Edit: dang it!

He will continue to grow both physically and mentally.

I work with high end athletes.. the change from 18-22 is unreal.
- jak521

Everything is contingent on him doing well in preseason, but Provorov is as physically and mentally ready as they come. This isn't Mitch Marner...if he's sent down it's not because he's not physically ready.

But what if it did? yikes!

Edit: dang it!
- Scoob

Geddy Lee is one of the best female singers of yesteryear, despite her haggardness.

Besides Provorov, they get a good look at Morin and Sanheim as well with some of the guys away at the worlds....Hopefully one of these guys are ready....Sometimes a kid comes to camp and shows a huge leap. ie Colton Parayko , Roustallanen ...all kids develop different and at different times. Hextall has his way of doing things and considering where they have come from when he took over I'm fine with his patience.
- landros 2

Flyers should have drafted Roustallanen. Instead, they're stuck with Prooferov.

Edit: should *of*

Growing his game tenfold? It is just a steeper learning curve. A wasted year of development makes it seem like you're suggesting he wont reach his full potential by going back to the WHL
- YuenglingJagr

I think I pretty clearly stated his growth would not be stunted and nothing bad would happen long term. It's simply, if and only if he's up to the task, the rate of learning he would achieve in the NHL dwarfs that of juniors, where he already is at the requisite "dominant" level. Going into next year, Provorov with a year under his belt vs. being a rookie is a massive difference. I simply don't see the argument that kids like Werenski and Hanifin have done enough and are at such a different level to be regular NHL'ers and Provorov has and is not.

Flyers should have drafted Roustallanen. Instead, they're stuck with Prooferov.

Edit: should *of*
- jmatchett383

Why?

edit...I get you attempt at humour now...hahaha...a ha

Actually, if Nichushkin if KHL-bound for 2+ years because of Ruff, I wonder if they Flyers could get him on the cheap.

Why?
- landros 2

They've got guys like Purfrev and Sandhim who can't even make the roster, but we could have guys life Rousolinnend that made the jump. At least Goustisbarn has made the leap. Maybe Rubestep can come over to NA next year and make the jump along with Kerninchy.

Actually, if Nichushkin if KHL-bound for 2+ years because of Ruff, I wonder if they Flyers could get him on the cheap.
- jmatchett383

I wonder if his KHL deal has an out clause if he's traded from Dallas.

They've got guys like Purfrev and Sandhim who can't even make the roster, but we could have guys life Rousolinnend that made the jump. At least Goustisbarn has made the leap. Maybe Rubestep can come over to NA next year and make the jump along with Kerninchy.
- jmatchett383

Are you Joe from Mantua on 610WIP?

Are you Joe from Mantua on 610WIP?


- dragonoffrost

I'm gonna hang up and let you answer.

E-A-G-L-E-S ESCOBIRDS!

I wonder if his KHL deal has an out clause if he's traded from Dallas.
- dragonoffrost

I don't claim to know the ins-and-outs of contracts, but if he's under NHL contract, but signs to play with a KHL team, why does he (and others in the past) need an "out clause" to honor his NHL contract? I always found that an odd one-way street.

Edit: Seems he's an RFA. Still, I know they were required during the 12/13 lockout and in other isolated instances.

I don't claim to know the ins-and-outs of contracts, but if he's under NHL contract, but signs to play with a KHL team, why does he (and others in the past) need an "out clause" to honor his NHL contract? I always found that an odd one-way street.

Edit: Seems he's an RFA. Still, I know they were required during the 12/13 lockout and in other isolated instances.
- jmatchett383

It is an odd relationship between the NHL and KHL. I was just wondering cause I read he signed in the KHL and had to get the Stars ok to go there. Odd to say the least.

Geddy Lee is one of the best female singers of yesteryear, despite her haggardness.
- jmatchett383

Easy there champ.......

Easy there champ.......




- MBFlyerfan

Hey man, everyone likes different things. She just doesn't do it for me.

If I had to guess, and it's just a guess. I think there's a very good chance Provorov ends up back in juniors.

Easy there champ.......




- MBFlyerfan

Don't get him started

Hey man, everyone likes different things. She just doesn't do it for me.


- jmatchett383

See?