NHL Gm's view him fairly highly as a legit franchise guy. If he performs he gets paid. Saying he's rfa means nothing when rfa comp on offer sheets are inline with the assets teams have traded for guys like Lehner and Anderson. Could say the same thing about McDavid. He's young. Doesn't mean he's not worth paying.

A guy like Maata who is more of a secondary core type guy in terms of potential got $4/year. I'd definitely pay a guy whose performing like a top 10 goalie at murrays age more money than Maata.
- sditulli

It's been what 4 years since the last offer sheet? They are very very rare. You can't plan on expecting one to come around. Most teams would rather make deals with others than burn them with an offer sheet. And btw Tristan Jarry looks very much improved to me. He has cleaned up his positional issues and looks like a brand new goalie. If he has a great year in WBS and gets a few games at the NHL level and performs well then all bets are off.

that might have been the last we saw of murray in this tournament
- martox

He ll be back next game. Why they started him 2 nights in a row is ridiculous. And their defense with out Ekblad is bad outside of Reily and Parayko anyways.

Cheap offer sheet. And their worth throwing them at teams with cap problems. You don't have to go that high; just a 3rd round level offer sheet for a high potential guy.
- sditulli

eh ... we always hear the threat of someone else offer sheeting a player and it rarely ever happens, especially for the good ones. I guess a cheap offer sheet to possible busts wouldn't hurt.

He ll be back next game. Why they started him 2 nights in a row is ridiculous. And their defense with out Ekblad is bad outside of Reily and Parayko anyways.
- Dcoms

I don't think he starts next game. McLellan was non-committal on his starting tender, but with Murray hurting his thumb and generally having a poor showing I'd bet Gibson gets the next start.

I don't think he starts next game. McLellan was non-committal on his starting tender, but with Murray hurting his thumb and generally having a poor showing I'd bet Gibson gets the next start.
- madmike71

Hurting his thumb? Is he an nhl player? Thumbs don't count. Kid is soff

Matta seriously needs to just work on his skating and speed. Ben Lovejoy is more mobile than he is.

Fwiw it's worth I'm not opposed to resigning Daley if he has a good year. Fear is he's approaching the rob scuderi danger zone. But if we can sign him with limited term like 3 years $10 it would be worth considering. Ideally Schultz and pouliot step up and we get younger.

Scuderi signed for 4 years at age 34. Daley will be 33 so a 3 year deal would be getting rid of him a good bit younger than the back years of scuds. And then there are some guys who age better. And only 3 years of term should make a buyout scenarios easier to handle.

Fwiw it's worth I'm not opposed to resigning Daley if he has a good year. Fear is he's approaching the rob scuderi danger zone. But if we can sign him with limited term like 3 years $10 it would be worth considering. Ideally Schultz and pouliot step up and we get younger.

Scuderi signed for 4 years at age 34. Daley will be 33 so a 3 year deal would be getting rid of him a good bit younger than the back years of scuds. And then there are some guys who age better. And only 3 years of term should make a buyout scenarios easier to handle.
- sditulli

You hit the nail on the head, term is going to be everything when it comes to whether resigning Daley is a good or bad move. Ideally I'd rather see them kick in a few extra $$$ to convince him to sign a 2 year deal but I'd be ok with 3 knowing that worst case scenario is that you're eating the last year of the deal as potential dead weight, anything more than 3 years is unacceptable regardless of how Shultz/Pouliot develop.

So, how did my man Muzza go? 4 goals on 19 SOG???

Any excuses, or just bad?
- Aussiepenguin

He was good the first period. Some time into the 2nd period something happend and The whole na team started playing bad and murray kicks in a own goal. After that he melted and let in 3 goals on like 4 shots so he got swapped. The worst I have sen him play.

Fwiw it's worth I'm not opposed to resigning Daley if he has a good year. Fear is he's approaching the rob scuderi danger zone. But if we can sign him with limited term like 3 years $10 it would be worth considering. Ideally Schultz and pouliot step up and we get younger.

Scuderi signed for 4 years at age 34. Daley will be 33 so a 3 year deal would be getting rid of him a good bit younger than the back years of scuds. And then there are some guys who age better. And only 3 years of term should make a buyout scenarios easier to handle.
- sditulli

To me, Daley and Scuderi are two totally different dudes. One was strictly a defensive man, while the other has wheels and can create offense. Term would be key here, but like I said earlier. If Daley does play well, you have to serious consider resigning him if neither DP or Schultz do anything.

To me, Daley and Scuderi are two totally different dudes. One was strictly a defensive man, while the other has wheels and can create offense. Term would be key here, but like I said earlier. If Daley does play well, you have to serious consider resigning him if neither DP or Schultz do anything.
- Oneonta Penguin

Different player but same situation of dealing with older players

Rey

You hit the nail on the head, term is going to be everything when it comes to whether resigning Daley is a good or bad move. Ideally I'd rather see them kick in a few extra $$$ to convince him to sign a 2 year deal but I'd be ok with 3 knowing that worst case scenario is that you're eating the last year of the deal as potential dead weight, anything more than 3 years is unacceptable regardless of how Shultz/Pouliot develop.
- jaydogg1974

Oduya is a bit of a comp. 4d on good team at similar age. 2 years 7.5.

To me, Daley and Scuderi are two totally different dudes. One was strictly a defensive man, while the other has wheels and can create offense. Term would be key here, but like I said earlier. If Daley does play well, you have to serious consider resigning him if neither DP or Schultz do anything.
- Oneonta Penguin

He will want more than 1 year. I'd go 2 years max. No more 4 year deals for players that are likely to fall off for the last two years of the deal.