Is this an example of the "soft troll" poop Nucks fans have been banging on about?
- walshyleafsfan

Yeah probably.

The Canucks fans are like all the other fan bases here. If you go there to have fun, hell, even a little back and forth banter, you probably won't have a problem.

It is not difficult to figure out when you're being trolled though.

Is this an example of the "soft troll" poop Nucks fans have been banging on about?
- walshyleafsfan

Flagged!

Also....Morgan Rielly > Ivan Provorov

Nylander > E. Lindholm
- mykokes

Probably.

So?

Also....Morgan Rielly > Ivan Provorov
- mykokes

lol no

You're right, Travis Sanheim is garbage. Terrible pick, trade him for Bolland.
- jmatchett383

fine prospect..but I dont think in the same discussion at all with Matthews Marner Nylander

lol no
- BINGO!

We shall see won't we? I mean, one is a top 5 pick, and has been in the NHL since he was 19. And is looking great on the North American young star team. How's Provorov doing?

Also....Morgan Rielly > Ivan Provorov
- mykokes

Well, to date, Morgan Reilly does have more success at the NHL level.

So does Roman Polak.

Fine, Gostisbehere for Nylander, but every Maple Leafs fan has to wear a Canadiens jersey to every game they attend for 2 years.
- jmatchett383

Done.

fine prospect..but I dont think in the same discussion at all with Matthews Marner Nylander
- senstroll

Probably not. But if you wanted the top defensemen not playing in the NHL, he's probably a top 15 if not top 10. Again, Philadelphia needs defense more than offense, so if you wanted one of the big 4, an overpayment would be necessary.

I am not saying that Sanheim is better than any of those 3 on a direct comparison.

Well, to date, Morgan Reilly does have more success at the NHL level.

So does Roman Polak.
- jmatchett383

To date: Reilly > Provorov.
However, I concede, the two are/were very compararble at age 19.

Probably not. But if you wanted the top defensemen not playing in the NHL, he's probably a top 15 if not top 10. Again, Philadelphia needs defense more than offense, so if you wanted one of the big 4, an overpayment would be necessary.

I am not saying that Sanheim is better than any of those 3 on a direct comparison.
- jmatchett383

thats fair
D are just so much harder to project or predict what NHL impact they will have.
Does not make sense to overpay for one

I think Matthews is going to be a very talented player. I'm not sure he will ever be "elite" though, as in a top-5 player. I believe that Provorov can be a top-3 defenseman. Because of that, I would only trade him for McDavid (which will not happen). It's also because Philadelphia needs defensive help more than they need offensive help.
- jmatchett383

Hmmm.
What leads you to believe Provorov will be a top 3 in the league...that is pretty high expectations

Probably.

So?
- BINGO!

You'd trade Lindholm for Provorov?

You'd trade Lindholm for Provorov?
- mykokes

If we needed defensemen, easily.

Hmmm.
What leads you to believe Provorov will be a top 3 in the league...that is pretty high expectations
- Fakepartofme

Sounds like some past Leaf d-men expectations to me. He's a solid prospect, perhaps one of the best, but haven't seen him in the show yet.

Now ghost bear....he impressed the hell out of me last year.

If we needed defensemen, easily.
- BINGO!

I guess a better question is, are you certain that he's anything more than the next Pitkanen? He's an elite prospect for sure, I'm not arguing that, but he's a top 10 pick d-man....they can either become a Doughty, a Bogosian, or a Schenn as some examples.

Hmmm.
What leads you to believe Provorov will be a top 3 in the league...that is pretty high expectations
- Fakepartofme

Well, admittedly, I have not watched him a ton.

However, he flat-out dominated the WHL last year, and was the best defensman in the CHL. He also plays a low-key yet effective physical game, and has the body to do so. He makes reads on plays like an NHL vet, and there really isn't a weakness to his game with or without the puck. I truly believe he could be a Lidstrom-lite player, maybe a Doughty type. My opinion.

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I think Matthews is going to be a very talented player. I'm not sure he will ever be "elite" though, as in a top-5 player. I believe that Provorov can be a top-3 defenseman. Because of that, I would only trade him for McDavid (which will not happen). It's also because Philadelphia needs defensive help more than they need offensive help.
- jmatchett383

Hmmm, I think maybe the orange kool-aid got to you a little bit in wouldn't trade Provorov for Matthews

I guess a better question is, are you certain that he's anything more than the next Pitkanen? He's an elite prospect for sure, I'm not arguing that, but he's a top 10 pick d-man....they can either become a Doughty, a Bogosian, or a Schenn as some examples.
- mykokes

Absolutely. Throw Hamrlik in there, too.

At the same time, Matthews could be the next Crosby, Daigle, Stefan, Lecavalier, etc.

Until they've played in the big show for a few years, hard to tell.

Well, admittedly, I have not watched him a ton.

However, he flat-out dominated the WHL last year, and was the best defensman in the CHL. He also plays a low-key yet effective physical game, and has the body to do so. He makes reads on plays like an NHL vet, and there really isn't a weakness to his game with or without the puck. I truly believe he could be a Lidstrom-lite player, maybe a Doughty type. My opinion.
- jmatchett383

2015–16 Ivan Provorov, Brandon Wheat Kings
2014–15 Anthony DeAngelo, Sarnia Sting/Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds
2013–14 Derrick Pouliot, Portland Winterhawks
2012–13 Ryan Sproul, Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds
2011–12 Dougie Hamilton, Niagara IceDogs
2010–11 Ryan Ellis, Windsor Spitfires
2009–10 David Savard, Moncton Wildcats
2008–09 Jonathon Blum, Vancouver Giants
2007–08 Karl Alzner, Calgary Hitmen
2006–07 Kris Russell, Medicine Hat Tigers
2005–06 Keith Yandle, Moncton Wildcats
2004–05 Danny Syvret, London Knights
2003–04 James Wisniewski, Plymouth Whalers
2002–03 Brendan Bell, Ottawa 67's

Ah, it was Dougie Hamilton I was trying to suggest as a possible outcome in my previous quote. I also thought Jonathan Blum would be something special.

Hmmm, I think maybe the orange kool-aid got to you a little bit in wouldn't trade Provorov for Matthews
- Aetherial

probably

Well, admittedly, I have not watched him a ton.

However, he flat-out dominated the WHL last year, and was the best defensman in the CHL. He also plays a low-key yet effective physical game, and has the body to do so. He makes reads on plays like an NHL vet, and there really isn't a weakness to his game with or without the puck. I truly believe he could be a Lidstrom-lite player, maybe a Doughty type. My opinion.
- jmatchett383

(frank)ing KOKES!

Fine, Gostisbehere for Nylander, but every Maple Leafs fan has to wear a Canadiens jersey to every game they attend for 2 years.
- jmatchett383

It will be tough to tell our families we are gay though.