Other fans troll us because we're like whipped dogs who don't want to show our teeth anymore. What Leaf fans have forgotten along the way is we're the greatest fanbase on this earth. Maybe it's time we started behaving like it again.
- The Shrike

atleast 4th - Man U, Cowboys, Yankees, Canucks

Why other fans troll us, is because too many of us walk around with rose coloured glasses and can't see the Leafs for what they are and have been. Losing does that.
- PrinceLH

Other fans troll us because we're like whipped dogs who don't want to show our teeth anymore. What Leaf fans have forgotten along the way is we're the greatest fanbase on this earth. Maybe it's time we started behaving like it again.
- The Shrike

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Kesler will never look at Tavares the same again
- jimi james

I'm not sure of that. Kesler just a goof with declining skills.

Other fans troll us because we're like whipped dogs who don't want to show our teeth anymore. What Leaf fans have forgotten along the way is we're the greatest fanbase on this earth. Maybe it's time we started behaving like it again.
- The Shrike

atleast 4th - Man U, Cowboys, Yankees, Canucks
- poohcrumbs

you forgot the habs, pretty much all the top tier EPL and other football (and i mean the original legit football) clubs, Aussie rules club supporters, chinese badminton fans, kabaddi fans, field hockey club national team supporters, cricket fans, women's beach volleyball national team fans, women's indoor volleyball national team fans, and there might a few others i've forgotten... but yes you're really close.

atleast 4th - Man U, Cowboys, Yankees, Canucks
- poohcrumbs

Definatey 1st, and if the Leafs at any point had owners willing to spend like the Man U, Cowboys, and Yankees owners they would have been much more successful at winning.

Ballard...too cheap, Stavros...too personally broke, Teachers pension + Tannenbaum...too focused on short term profit, and chummy with the BOG to question a salary cap that hinders the advantage that their superior fanbase gives their team.

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- kaptaan

Hey, I understand, after all, that's the way you guys like us.

you forgot the habs, pretty much all the top tier EPL and other football (and i mean the original legit football) clubs, Aussie rules club supporters, chinese badminton fans, kabaddi fans, field hockey club national team supporters, cricket fans, women's beach volleyball national team fans, women's indoor volleyball national team fans, and there might a few others i've forgotten... but yes you're really close.
- kaptaan

you forgot all WNBA teams

Definatey 1st, and if the Leafs at any point had owners willing to spend like the Man U, Cowboys, and Yankees owners they would have been much more successful at winning.

Ballard...too cheap, Stavros...too personally broke, Teachers pension + Tannenbaum...too focused on short term profit, and chummy with the BOG to question a salary cap that hinders the advantage that their superior fanbase gives their team.
- The Shrike

leafs were ready to throw money at players, but they went to teams where they thought they'd win the cup, or the team wasn't in a position to compete at the time when some guys came available...

i think it's fans who claim their team's fanbase is the greatest in the world, that turn off other fans of other teams, and then those other fans of other teams troll and make fun of the fans of the team that keep claiming they're the best fans in the world.

I'm not sure of that. Kesler just a goof with declining skills.
- bixll

He is declining and overpaid.

Still a good player though.

Completely deserved to receive some payback after trying to take out Canada's #1 defenseman!

Hey, I understand, after all, that's the way you guys like us.
- The Shrike

i think most people would say they like to meet rational fans. fans who aren't "rabid" supporters.

i think most people would say they like to meet rational fans. fans who aren't "rabid" supporters.
- kaptaan

Im a fan of Puck

you forgot all WNBA teams
- poohcrumbs

i've never actually watched WNBA, but the highlights i've seen haven't really made me think seriously of watching. but to be honest I've tried to find women's volleyball online after seeing it in the olympics....

something amazonian about the players that i find very interesting and engaging...

He is declining and overpaid.

Still a good player though.

Completely deserved to receive some payback after trying to take out Canada's #1 defenseman!
- Scabeh

loved Tavares and Thornton's payback

Im a fan of Puck
- poohcrumbs

is he a "whipped dog" or rational?

i've never actually watched WNBA, but the highlights i've seen haven't really made me think seriously of watching. but to be honest I've tried to find women's volleyball online after seeing it in the olympics....

something amazonian about the players that i find very interesting and engaging...
- kaptaan

Ill watch anything, even curling

loved Tavares and Thornton's payback
- jimi james

Still all kinda crazy considering they are exhibition games.

Messier isn't in the same conversation as Gretzky, same with those other guys.

otherwise i'd agree with you on your general points that asset mgmt and mgmt in general have been the bane of this organization...

until these guys in charge actually accomplish something I don't think anyone can give them credit for being "good" or anything positive really. a team that finished 30th and the President (shanahan) acknowledges that the club "earned it" just showed where his head was at.

the team has to win its division, get to the 4th round of the playoff tournament, maybe win the regular season championship (president's trophy), and generally be successful for a stretch... then give the organization and mgmt some credit.

the Senators did it for awhile, the Nux had it for awhile... i can recall watching the team and knowing that in any game against any team the club could legitimately win. listening to the opposition announcers on the opposition feed and hearing them tell their own fans that it's going to be tough to win against the Nux, and how solid they were top 1 or 3 in the league in a myriad of criteria and when going into the third period down 2-3 goals never felt like the team was out of it.

that was a great time to be a fan for sure, and i relished that time frankly cuz it never lasts as long as you hope and you might not win the SC tournie... but it was a fun ride.

i think what Prince is saying is that you need to get that level of success to judge accurately about the place in history for some of these players that have had some flash but no sustained success in a leafs uniform.
- kaptaan

Sweet

leafs were ready to throw money at players, but they went to teams where they thought they'd win the cup, or the team wasn't in a position to compete at the time when some guys came available... .
- kaptaan

The Leafs were never ready to throw the money at players that other teams were willing to. Signing UFA's like Corson and Roberts isn't the same as signing Gretzky, which they could have done, and that's just the tip of that iceberg.

i think it's fans who claim their team's fanbase is the greatest in the world, that turn off other fans of other teams, and then those other fans of other teams troll and make fun of the fans of the team that keep claiming they're the best fans in the world.
- kaptaan

How many other fanbases can you point to that are as fervent as this one, yet whose team hasn't won in almost 50 years?

Other teams troll us because our team has lost so much. They can't understand why we don't give up on our team like they do when their team goes on a streak like this, so they're jealous and resentful of our resolve. Well, let me just say that you will never break our resolve, because Leaf Nation is the greatest nation on this earth.

*measures Richard again*

ah...it's not too bad I guess.

The Leafs were never ready to throw the money at players that other teams were willing to. Signing UFA's like Corson and Roberts isn't the same as signing Gretzky, which they could have done, and that's just the tip of that iceberg.




How many other fanbases can you point to that are as fervent as this one, yet whose team hasn't won in almost 50 years?

Other teams troll us because our team has lost so much. They can't understand why we don't give up on our team like they do when their team goes on a streak like this, so they're jealous and resentful of our resolve. Well, let me just say that you will never break our resolve, because Leaf Nation is the greatest nation on this earth.
- The Shrike

Are you trying to be elected as Leafs nation's president or something?

He is declining and overpaid.

Still a good player though.

Completely deserved to receive some payback after trying to take out Canada's #1 defenseman!
- Scabeh

He took a run at Doughty too. That bastard.

The Leafs were never ready to throw the money at players that other teams were willing to. Signing UFA's like Corson and Roberts isn't the same as signing Gretzky, which they could have done, and that's just the tip of that iceberg.




How many other fanbases can you point to that are as fervent as this one, yet whose team hasn't won in almost 50 years?

Other teams troll us because our team has lost so much. They can't understand why we don't give up on our team like they do when their team goes on a streak like this, so they're jealous and resentful of our resolve. Well, let me just say that you will never break our resolve, because Leaf Nation is the greatest nation on this earth.
- The Shrike

Cubs, Eagles

*measures Richard again*

ah...it's not too bad I guess.
- Garnie

Millimeters sounds far longer. Just a tip..lol

He took a run at Doughty too. That bastard.
- bixll

Hey, I'm just going with who's getting the most icetime.

He is declining and overpaid.

Still a good player though.

Completely deserved to receive some payback after trying to take out Canada's #1 defenseman!
- Scabeh

But Subban isn't playing...?