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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:21 AM ET
You betting again this year?
- Garnie



sure I like to make bets
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:22 AM ET
You figure he is a bust do you.
- bixll

nah, just a rookie with a lot to learn
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:22 AM ET
You betting again this year?
- Garnie



Hey buddy. How did it go ?
BorjeFan4Ever
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Sep 12 @ 10:22 AM ET
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- DDM-Coga


Vesey.

how could it be anyone else.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:23 AM ET
nah, just a rookie with a lot to learn
- Symba007



Looks like he will be a great player some day.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 12 @ 10:24 AM ET
Vesey.

how could it be anyone else.

- BorjeFan4Ever


is it possible to win the calder and hart? I cant wait to find out
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 12 @ 10:25 AM ET
TBH I think that he'll be one of the main challengers for it. I think that Matt Murray is also still eligible, so throw his name (potentially) into the mix also

- lumlums


Depends on who he plays with. Could be on the Viking Line with Landy and Sodeberg, being the big body cycle shutdown line, or just give him the keys to the kingdom and rid shotgun with MacK.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Sep 12 @ 10:25 AM ET
All that matters is the OctoCup anyway!
- Symba007

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 12 @ 10:25 AM ET
Looks like he will be a great player some day.
- bixll

Oh he will and sooner than later, this is a transition year for him where he will show amazing things some days and struggle others, it's normal. He will have to learn to handle the 82 games schedule, constant travel, tons of pressure, top league in the world, much more physical than he is used to.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 12 @ 10:26 AM ET
Depends on who he plays with. Could be on the Viking Line with Landy and Sodeberg, being the big body cycle shutdown line, or just give him the keys to the kingdom and rid shotgun with MacK.
- DDM-Coga

Freakorenko will win the Calderenko with Zadorenko as Runneruperenko
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 12 @ 10:29 AM ET
Freakorenko will win the Calderenko with Zadorenko as Runneruperenko
- AdamFrench


Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Sep 12 @ 10:29 AM ET
Freakorenko will win the Calderenko with Zadorenko as Runneruperenko
- AdamFrench

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:31 AM ET
Oh he will and sooner than later, this is a transition year for him where he will show amazing things some days and struggle others, it's normal. He will have to learn to handle the 82 games schedule, constant travel, tons of pressure, top league in the world, much more physical than he is used to.
- Symba007



I am predicting 54 points for Matthews.
Leafsandbolts
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Bradenton, Florida, FL
Joined: 08.14.2010

Sep 12 @ 10:34 AM ET
Teams with multiple top rookies rarely win the Calder trophy eg. Tampa with Johnson and Kucherov, since voting gets split between their candidates. Winning the Calder is not that important vs having multiple really solid developing players. Good problem to have and yes, very rare for the Leafs.

I unfortunately expect Marner will be returned to London. Bonus dollars are likely to get in the way of having so many ELCs on the roster. Rules for Bonus dollars are pretty rigid in the CBA and overages are not covered by LTIR savings.

The discussion of other options for young talented juniors comes up every year with different teams eg. again Tampa and Drouin. I doubt things are going to change since the CHL teams are running businesses that would need to compensated in some way. Big teams like the Leafs would likely be willing to pay but too many others wouldn't.

Markham Magician Mitch Marner? Have you been reading the Garth posts again?

Good article, Lucas
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 12 @ 10:35 AM ET
TBH I think that he'll be one of the main challengers for it. I think that Matt Murray is also still eligible, so throw his name (potentially) into the mix also


EDIT: I would say Vatrano, but he's not eligible anymore and *somehow* didn't get nominated last year!

- lumlums

Bruinsiak guaranteed it though
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Sep 12 @ 10:36 AM ET
nah, just a rookie with a lot to learn
- Symba007

TML prospect = Bust Symba.

Maybe if you got your head out of your ass there wouldn't be so much poop on it
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:38 AM ET
TML prospect = Bust Symba.

Maybe if you got your head out of your ass there wouldn't be so much poop on it

- RickJames77

Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Sep 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
I am predicting 54 points for Matthews.
- bixll

very close to mine: 57
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Sep 12 @ 10:40 AM ET
TML prospect = Bust Symba.

Maybe if you got your head out of your ass there wouldn't be so much poop on it

- RickJames77

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:41 AM ET
very close to mine: 57
- Lucas.Neilson



I figure somewhere in that area. He is going to surprise a lot of people.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Sep 12 @ 10:41 AM ET
Teams with multiple top rookies rarely win the Calder trophy eg. Tampa with Johnson and Kucherov, since voting gets split between their candidates. Winning the Calder is not that important vs having multiple really solid developing players. Good problem to have and yes, very rare for the Leafs.

I unfortunately expect Marner will be returned to London. Bonus dollars are likely to get in the way of having so many ELCs on the roster. Rules for Bonus dollars are pretty rigid in the CBA and overages are not covered by LTIR savings.

The discussion of other options for young talented juniors comes up every year with different teams eg. again Tampa and Drouin. I doubt things are going to change since the CHL teams are running businesses that would need to compensated in some way. Big teams like the Leafs would likely be willing to pay but too many others wouldn't.

Markham Magician Mitch Marner? Have you been reading the Garth posts again?

Good article, Lucas

- Leafsandbolts


You can exceed the cap in potential performance bonuses by $5.475M.

performance bonuses:
Zaitsev – 850k
Mathews – 2.85M
Nylander – 850k
Marner – 850k
Total $5.4M
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Sep 12 @ 10:41 AM ET
Teams with multiple top rookies rarely win the Calder trophy eg. Tampa with Johnson and Kucherov, since voting gets split between their candidates. Winning the Calder is not that important vs having multiple really solid developing players. Good problem to have and yes, very rare for the Leafs.

I unfortunately expect Marner will be returned to London. Bonus dollars are likely to get in the way of having so many ELCs on the roster. Rules for Bonus dollars are pretty rigid in the CBA and overages are not covered by LTIR savings.

The discussion of other options for young talented juniors comes up every year with different teams eg. again Tampa and Drouin. I doubt things are going to change since the CHL teams are running businesses that would need to compensated in some way. Big teams like the Leafs would likely be willing to pay but too many others wouldn't.

Markham Magician Mitch Marner? Have you been reading the Garth posts again?

Good article, Lucas

- Leafsandbolts

I agree with 3 options it won't be as easy to put one person into that successful position on say line 1 or PP1.

Markham Magician Mitch Marner...I once had that as a title of my blog if I'm not mistaken
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
I figure somewhere in that area. He is going to surprise a lot of people.
- bixll

I think that would only surprise the haters. That's on par with similar talents like Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, Eichel and MacKinnon...even your boy Jackingoffapov was on pace for 55+
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Sep 12 @ 10:42 AM ET
I figure somewhere in that area. He is going to surprise a lot of people.
- bixll


yeah I think his totals will depending entirely on how long it takes Babs to move him into positions to succeed. IE powerplay or a production type line.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Sep 12 @ 10:43 AM ET
1st overall picks since 2000 (forwards)

Ilya Kovalchuk 51 (65 games) 64/82
Rick Nash 39
Alex Ovechkin 106
Sidney Crosby 102
Patrick Kane 72
Steven Stamkos 46
John Tavares 54
Taylor Hall 42
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 52
Nail Yakupov 31 (48 games) 52/82
Nathan MacKinnon 63
Connor McDavid 48 (45 games) 87/82


I will go with 47 for Matthews
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