No need for him in Ottawa, no budget dollars either. Management has already said they want to see chabot in camp before they add a stop gap anyways.

Don't know ny they'd want him in NJ. We are already loaded with bottom pairing guys...

Don't know ny they'd want him in NJ. We are already loaded with bottom pairing guys...
- Queenie_5_hole

If you want to upgrade your top line though, I believe that Adam Larsson could be had if you were willing to part ways with Taylor Hall

If you want to upgrade your top line though, I believe that Adam Larsson could be had if you were willing to part ways with Taylor Hall
- lumlums

I'd need Lucic with Larsson to make that deal work...

I hope you're wrong!
- Clyde334

I wish Calgary had a better option in their top 4 ! Calgary is very thin in the minute munching Dman department.

Don't know ny they'd want him in NJ. We are already loaded with bottom pairing guys...
- Queenie_5_hole

NJ's defense is in a pretty interesting position right now. Andy Greene could pull a Girardi/Boychuk and start declining out of nowhere, and besides Severson, I'm not sure you guys have anybody else I'd trust eating 20+ minutes a night.

Lovejoy to me is always criminally underrated, but still nothing more than a 2nd pairing defenseman.

Do you guys have any prospects that have high ceilings?

EK he has bad fancy stats, hes barely considered a human being let alone a saga. I laughed pretty hard when stats people were comparing Russell to Scuderi.

NJ's defense is in a pretty interesting position right now. Andy Greene could pull a Girardi/Boychuk and start declining out of nowhere, and besides Severson, I'm not sure you guys have anybody else I'd trust eating 20+ minutes a night.

Lovejoy to me is always criminally underrated, but still nothing more than a 2nd pairing defenseman.

Do you guys have any prospects that have high ceilings?
- rangerdanger94

SANTINI ,Merrill and helgeson .
but none are PMD .

Need to sign Russel or Fowler , or ???
also need a vet crusher on D. seidenberg ???


Greene -Siedenberg
Fowler - Lovejoy
Santini -Moore

SANTINI ,Merrill and helgeson .
but none are PMD .

Need to sign Russel or Fowler , or ???
also need a vet crusher on D. seidenberg ???


Greene -Siedenberg
Fowler - Lovejoy
Santini -Moore
- thechezman

Don't worry. According to Ek all defensemen are going to NJ.

shoreorrpark

Sorry my reply feature isn't working.

I thought Russell played quite well in Dallas after coming over after returning from injury.

Arizona has no room at the inn for D, they have 9 on 1 way contracts now & until LTIR issues are addressed limited cap space.

Russell in his last 3 seasons in Calgary logged over 23 mins of TOI/GP each season. That puts him in pretty elite company against all NHL Dman essentially top 30 by average & by even strength ice time he is even better; top 15, he doesn’t see top flight power play time or he would be even higher in TOI/GP.

Russel against all NHL Dman.
15/16 TOI/GP 23:04 33rd overall, EV TOI/GP 19:37 12th overall.
14/15 TOI/GP 23:56 22nd overall, EV TOI/GP 20:22 10th overall.
13/14 TOI/GP 23:08 37th overall, EV TOI/GP 10:17 13th overall.

By even strength ice time for all NHL Dman he’s been top 15 3 years in a row & top 3 in blocked shots, 1st once, 2nd & 3rd the other 2 due to games missed. He's easily a 2nd pairing top 4 guy. Good skater pretty reliable positionally & plays against the other teams best players regularly.

He would immediately be NJ's 2nd best Dman currently.

Sorry should read 19:17 in 2013-14 in EV TOI/GP

Russell in his last 3 seasons in Calgary logged over 23 mins of TOI/GP each season. That puts him in pretty elite company against all NHL Dman essentially top 30 by average & by even strength ice time he is even better; top 15, he doesn’t see top flight power play time or he would be even higher in TOI/GP.

Russel against all NHL Dman.
15/16 TOI/GP 23:04 33rd overall, EV TOI/GP 19:37 12th overall.
14/15 TOI/GP 23:56 22nd overall, EV TOI/GP 20:22 10th overall.
13/14 TOI/GP 23:08 37th overall, EV TOI/GP 10:17 13th overall.

By even strength ice time for all NHL Dman he’s been top 15 3 years in a row & top 3 in blocked shots, 1st once, 2nd & 3rd the other 2 due to games missed. He's easily a 2nd pairing top 4 guy. Good skater pretty reliable positionally & plays against the other teams best players regularly.

He would immediately be NJ's 2nd best Dman currently.
- striker777

All this means is that Calgary's D was severely lacking outside 1 and 2. That's was somewhat addressed by bringing in Dougie, but it still took him half a season to get conformable. Russell's toi does not reflect, in any way, his abilities. He should be on the bottom pair averaging 12ish minutes a night. He has little, to no offence, and is a defensive liability. All he's good for is blocking shots. I will be very disappointed if Calgary signs him. I don't see it happening though. Johnny is top priority.

In 573 games he sits minus 8; not a perfect stat granted & many of those years were spent playing for a brutal Columbus team. Not all players are there to drive offense. Many just the opposite & solid 2 way Dman are rarer still.

All that even strength icetime means he see's the best of the best regularly & consistently.

I would suggest you go through all 30 teams & look at all Dman. Russell under no scenario is a bottom pairing Dman. NHL.com, stats, players, Dman, more, time on ice sort by TOI in differnet situations.

If you want to upgrade your top line though, I believe that Adam Larsson could be had if you were willing to part ways with Taylor Hall
- lumlums

Currently working on a Zajac for Klefbom deal. Mr.Bobby 5.

NJ's defense is in a pretty interesting position right now. Andy Greene could pull a Girardi/Boychuk and start declining out of nowhere, and besides Severson, I'm not sure you guys have anybody else I'd trust eating 20+ minutes a night.

Lovejoy to me is always criminally underrated, but still nothing more than a 2nd pairing defenseman.

Do you guys have any prospects that have high ceilings?
- rangerdanger94

Santini and Jacobs look to be future NHLers. But as far as top pairing guys, if Severson doesn't hit his ceiling they are pretty screwed.

In 573 games he sits minus 8; not a perfect stat granted & many of those years were spent playing for a brutal Columbus team. Not all players are there to drive offense. Many just the opposite & solid 2 way Dman are rarer still.

All that even strength icetime means he see's the best of the best regularly & consistently.

I would suggest you go through all 30 teams & look at all Dman. Russell under no scenario is a bottom pairing Dman. NHL.com, stats, players, Dman, more, time on ice sort by TOI in differnet situations.
- striker777

If you believe that Russell is anything but a bottom pairing guy, then there is no sense arguing. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

dr_soiledpants

I'm fairly certain I know what I'm talking about.

Bottom pairing Dman play in or around 13 to 15 minutes a night against the other teams worst players not over 23 minutes a night. They rarely kill penalties or see any PP time with very rare exceptions. They certainly don't finish in the top 35 consistently in TOI/GP for all NHL Dman & the top 15 in EV TOI/GP.

Russell did this with Giordano, Brodie, Wideman & Hamilton also playing for Calgary last season. The 1st 3 the 2 seasons prior. Russell & Wideman were a fixture together as the 2nd pairing in Calgary primarily for those 3 years.

What your comments show is your clueless.

I like you, assuming from your login am a Flames season ticket holder. I also own Edm & Dal season tickets. 3 markets which I work in being in the Petro industry. I watched Russell play for both Calgary & Dallas.

Not sure how your classifying your placement as a 2nd or 3rd pairing Dman but for me it comes down to minutes played. No better way to determine a players value to his respective team, the trust of the coaches, who they face as competition etc.

If your only criteria is offense then perhaps you are correct.

I can help...

- geta02it

beat me to it, lol