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cabin
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Sep 2 @ 8:58 AM ET
There was a bills game last night ?

What was the score .
buffalofan19
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Sep 2 @ 9:00 AM ET
There was a bills game last night ?

What was the score .

- cabin



Tennessee almost lost to Appalachian State at home last night. That was interesting to watch.

I don't understand how a team that has been wallowing in mediocrity for the past 6 or 7 years all of a sudden gets vaulted up to #9 to start a season.
Zschalberg
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Sep 2 @ 9:01 AM ET
There was a bills game last night ?

What was the score .

- cabin

Irrelevant - Unimportant.

31-0 Lions.

2nd and 3rd O-Line units were terrible. QBs and RBs couldn't do anything. Only thing to be a bit concerned about is the O-line depth but if it's that big of a deal I'd expect us to pick someone up after cuts
Zschalberg
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Sep 2 @ 9:02 AM ET
Tennessee almost lost to Appalachian State at home last night. That was interesting to watch.

I don't understand how a team that has been wallowing in mediocrity for the past 6 or 7 years all of a sudden gets vaulted up to #9 to start a season.

- buffalofan19

Bulls home opener is tonight.
Michael Pachla
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Sep 2 @ 9:03 AM ET
To be honest, that is exactly why I was apprehensive about Okposo as the "consolation prize" for Stamkos. Okposo may or may not have been the best FA candidate available, but to me, it was the equivalent of winning a $60 50/50 drawing at an elementary school fundraiser.
- buffalofan19


they did, however, fill a need at rw...an argument could be made that despite the superstardom of stamkos--whom everyone would agree is a standout player that no one in sabreland would shun--the pecking order remains intact for the team...sometimes loading up with too many stars can be counterproductive

that said, it was a fairly steep price for an extensive term that may or may not be an anchor down the road
Michael Pachla
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Sep 2 @ 9:05 AM ET
There was a bills game last night ?

What was the score .

- cabin


haters, 101--stoics, 0
cabin
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Sep 2 @ 9:06 AM ET
Irrelevant - Unimportant.

31-0 Lions.

2nd and 3rd O-Line units were terrible. QBs and RBs couldn't do anything. Only thing to be a bit concerned about is the O-line depth but if it's that big of a deal I'd expect us to pick someone up after cuts

- Zschalberg


Preseason game . I remember the super bowl years when we lost all the preseason games.
sbroads24
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Sep 2 @ 9:07 AM ET
they did, however, fill a need at rw...an argument could be made that despite the superstardom of stamkos--whom everyone would agree is a standout player that no one in sabreland would shun--the pecking order remains intact for the team...sometimes loading up with too many stars can be counterproductive

that said, it was a fairly steep price for an extensive term that may or may not be an anchor down the road

- Michael Pachla

If you can get productive players (I believe he will produce again) like Girgensons on cheap deals, then you can afford to overpay for an Okposo.


Only issue is Girgs with a bounce back year could turn into a 3-4 mil player.

I have a feeling this is his last year here either way
buffalofan19
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Sep 2 @ 9:08 AM ET
Preseason game . I remember the super bowl years when we lost all the preseason games.
- cabin



Like he mentioned earlier, it was pretty comical watching them line up in the wishbone for 4 plays in a row and get stopped on 4th down.
sbroads24
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Sep 2 @ 9:08 AM ET
Also, who are the crack smokers that think Cardale Jones is ready to be the #2?
cabin
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Sep 2 @ 9:09 AM ET
If you can get productive players (I believe he will produce again) like Girgensons on cheap deals, then you can afford to overpay for an Okposo.


Only issue is Girgs with a bounce back year could turn into a 3-4 mil player.

I have a feeling this is his last year here either way

- sbroads24


If he has a break out year , why get rid of him? What would it cost to replace him?

Tough questions

Edit: oh yes, trade him for picks
buffalofan19
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Sep 2 @ 9:09 AM ET
Also, who are the crack smokers that think Cardale Jones is ready to be the #2?
- sbroads24



I knew something seemed a little off about Steve Tasker.
Michael Pachla
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Sep 2 @ 9:11 AM ET
If you can get productive players (I believe he will produce again) like Girgensons on cheap deals, then you can afford to overpay for an Okposo.


Only issue is Girgs with a bounce back year could turn into a 3-4 mil player.

I have a feeling this is his last year here either way

- sbroads24


that's a great point
sbroads24
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Sep 2 @ 9:11 AM ET
If he has a break out year , why get rid of him? What would it cost to replace him?

Tough questions

Edit: oh yes, trade him for picks

- cabin

I think it becomes a tough choice, they will have committed to Eichel, ROR, Reinhart, and Oshie long term.
Michael Pachla
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Sep 2 @ 9:12 AM ET
If he has a break out year , why get rid of him? What would it cost to replace him?

Tough questions

Edit: oh yes, trade him for picks

- cabin


they also have over $10m coming off of the books next season
cabin
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Sep 2 @ 9:14 AM ET
I think it becomes a tough choice, they will have committed to Eichel, ROR, Reinhart, and Oshie long term.
- sbroads24


So were do we draw the line and have 4th line scrubs on the cheap. Those are the players everyone wants to get rid of for better players . Better players cost . Gotta make sure we are not paying a high price for no production.
buffalofan19
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Sep 2 @ 9:16 AM ET
they also have over $10m coming off of the books next season
- Michael Pachla



Which will easily go back on the season after. Eichel's current deal will be done. Reinhart will need a new deal next year (I think). And there will always be holes to fill.
Michael Pachla
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Sep 2 @ 9:19 AM ET
Which will easily go back on the season after. Eichel's current deal will be done. Reinhart will need a new deal next year (I think). And there will always be holes to fill.
- buffalofan19

yup, with close to another $10m coming off the books after that...plus, hopefully the cap will have risen to add another $4-5m in space

edit: reinhart and Eichel both in 2018
mhp
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Sep 2 @ 9:34 AM ET
There was a bills game last night ?

What was the score .

- cabin


Who are the Bills?
homiedclown
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Sep 2 @ 9:35 AM ET
this is a good post
- Michael Pachla

true dat
homiedclown
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Sep 2 @ 9:36 AM ET
Also, who are the crack smokers that think Cardale Jones is ready to be the #2?
- sbroads24

mhp
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Sep 2 @ 9:36 AM ET
So would Girgs be more or less likely to be traded with his contract? Or was this a 'show me' statement by Murray and you'll get a longer term deal next year if you perform?
Michael Pachla
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Sep 2 @ 9:38 AM ET
So would Girgs be more or less likely to be traded with his contract? Or was this a 'show me' statement by Murray and you'll get a longer term deal next year if you perform?
- mhp


all depends on what you think he is...$1.15m for a top-nine, two-way player who might help in the top-six is a pretty good deal imo
homiedclown
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Sep 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
So would Girgs be more or less likely to be traded with his contract? Or was this a 'show me' statement by Murray and you'll get a longer term deal next year if you perform?
- mhp

more likely

TheSabresTaco
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Sep 2 @ 9:40 AM ET
To be honest, that is exactly why I was apprehensive about Okposo as the "consolation prize" for Stamkos. Okposo may or may not have been the best FA candidate available, but to me, it was the equivalent of winning a $60 50/50 drawing at an elementary school fundraiser.
- buffalofan19


Come on.
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