He lead them? Or was it Kane, Hossa, Keith, Crawford, etc.?
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah but his Immeasurables/60 couldn't even be quantified for some reason.

You forgot Tanner Glass

- Feds91Stammer

Not saying he's not surrounded by other great players but come on... give the guy some credit.
- Scabeh

Great argument...

1. McDavid
2. Larsson
3. Lucic
4. Draisaitl
5. RNH
6. Eberle
7. Klefbom
8. Puljujarvi
9. Talbot
10. Pouliot

From an unbiased fan of the Oilers.
- laughs2907

our lord and savior god Larsson. praise the lord I say PRAISE HIM!!

Not saying he's not surrounded by other great players but come on... give the guy some credit.
- Scabeh

Come on

CURRENT Top 10 NHL Centers

1. Crosby
2. McDavid
3. Bergeron
4. Kopitar
5. Tavares
6. Seguin
7. Giroux
8. Kuznetsov
9. Pavelski
10. Stamkos

It's a joke to leave Ovechkin off of any NHL list of the best NHL players.
- 13LEAFS01

This!!

Name me one other player who does as much as Ovie does. The only thing he doesn't do is fight, which this watered down fem league is trying to eliminate. He is still assigned a shadow every game! 'Nuff said!

Come on
- eichiefs9

What? He asked if Toews really led his team to a Stanley cup and I show him winning the playoffs MVP trophy?

I guess he kinda did, once?

What does posting players with the Stanley cup have to do with this?

Not saying he's not surrounded by other great players but come on... give the guy some credit.
- Scabeh

name 1 team that you think had more star players in the last 15 years compared to chicago during 2010-2015. just for fun. it should be easy.

What? He asked if Toews really led his team to a Stanley cup and I show him winning the playoffs MVP trophy?

I guess he kinda did, once?

What does posting players with the Stanley cup have to do with this?
- Scabeh

Yeah in 2010... Get with the program. Kane also had 1 less point in the playoffs and 20 more points in the regular season. #leadership

name 1 team that you think had more star players in the last 15 years. just for fun. it should be easy
- martox

2002-2008 Red Wings

name 1 team that you think had more star players in the last 15 years. just for fun. it should be easy
- martox

The 2002 Detroit Red Wings come to mind.

2002-2008 Red Wings
- Feds91Stammer

CURRENT Top 10 NHL Centers

1. Crosby
2. McDavid
3. Bergeron
4. Kopitar
5. Tavares
6. Seguin
7. Giroux
8. Kuznetsov
9. Pavelski
10. Stamkos
- Feds91Stammer

You have Kuznetsov and Pavelski over Malkin?

What? He asked if Toews really led his team to a Stanley cup and I show him winning the playoffs MVP trophy?

I guess he kinda did, once?

What does posting players with the Stanley cup have to do with this?
- Scabeh

Did Kane "lead his team to a Stanley Cup" the year he won the Conn Smythe? Or Keith the year he won it?

Or is it more likely that the Blackhawks just have an insanely deep team and are really good, collectively. Toews is a strong player and a great leader but he's not in a top-10 player in this league.

Hot Carl
- DDM-Coga

Marley & Me?

Yeah in 2010... Get with the program. Kane also had 1 less point in the playoffs and 20 more points in the regular season. #leadership
- Feds91Stammer

I mean personally I believe toews is a perfect player for the hawks but if he played almost anywhere else it would be unanimous around the world that he was not a top 10 player

You have Kuznetsov and Pavelski over Malkin?


- Rinosaur

I love Malkin but he can't stay healthy ever.

"Give me puck"

"I'm score"

You have Kuznetsov and Pavelski over Malkin?


- Rinosaur

I am gonna agree here and even though I am a pens fan I am unbiased in that decision.

Yeah in 2010... Get with the program. Kane also had 1 less point in the playoffs and 20 more points in the regular season. #leadership
- Feds91Stammer

Kane is amazing, no doubt about it. Hell I'm not saying he's better than Toews.

But I think you're not giving the guy enough credit for winning 3 cups in the last 6 years taking him out of the top 10 best centers in the league.

I saw your top 10, it's good, very debatable, but mine would have Toews on it I think.

Did Kane "lead his team to a Stanley Cup" the year he won the Conn Smythe? Or Keith the year he won it?

Or is it more likely that the Blackhawks just have an insanely deep team and are really good, collectively. Toews is a strong player and a great leader but he's not in a top-10 player in this league.
- eichiefs9

If Panarin plays with Toews instead of Kane he puts up 45 points and isn't even nominated for the Calder.

our lord and savior god Larsson. praise the lord I say PRAISE HIM!!
- martox

I love Malkin but he can't stay healthy ever.

"Give me puck"

"I'm score"
- Feds91Stammer

100% agree that he can't stay healthy. but that shouldn't take away from what he is doing posting above 1ppg almost every season.

Kane is amazing, no doubt about it. Hell I'm not saying he's better than Toews.

But I think you're not giving the guy enough credit for winning 3 cups in the last 6 years taking him out of the top 10 best centers in the league.

I saw your top 10, it's good, very debatable, but mine would have Toews on it I think.
- Scabeh

But you are crediting him as a top tier individual based on team accomplishments