wolfpack just signed this kid.

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=56595

wolfpack just signed this kid.

http://www.eliteprospects...m/player.php?player=56595
- tomburton99

peter is fired as our Scandinavian scout

peter is fired as our Scandinavian scout
- mdw7413

Way ahead of you

Watch Saarela tear it up. Trolls will never let NYR live it down if he's a stud.
- rrentz

I was pretty clever when deal was initially made that I didn't like giving him up

I was pretty clever when deal was initially made that I didn't like giving him up
- airjan23

You did indeed. , but w/ this traffic jam in the bottom six, it might not bite us in the arse anytime soon

You did indeed. , but w/ this traffic jam in the bottom six, it might not bite us in the arse anytime soon
- rrentz

I don't know how anyone could know if he's a better prospect than Kovacs, Gropp, Stromwall...but I guess we'll find out

Hey does anyone know the answer to this - for the expansion draft, if you sign a RFA or pending UFA - does that contract's terms go into effect before the expansion draft? for example - Pittsburgh with Murray, if they sign him with a NMC in his contract, would that allow Pitt to protect him?

Hey does anyone know the answer to this - for the expansion draft, if you sign a RFA or pending UFA - does that contract's terms go into effect before the expansion draft? for example - Pittsburgh with Murray, if they sign him with a NMC in his contract, would that allow Pitt to protect him?
- richardson30

I think any new contract extension for the following year doesn't begin until July 1st, so even if they signed an extension with a NMC, it wouldn't be in effect during the expansion draft, because that will be in June

I don't know how anyone could know if he's a better prospect than Kovacs, Gropp, Stromwall...but I guess we'll find out
- jimbro83

Well, Kovacs has played all of 8 games in Sweden's top league, whereas Saarela had played almost 50 Games in the top Finnish league before he was 18.

Well, Kovacs has played all of 8 games in Sweden's top league, whereas Saarela had played almost 50 Games in the top Finnish league before he was 18.
- BINGO!

It was just the dumbest (frank)ing trade. People complain about the MSL trade or the Yandle trade, I would still take those any and everyday over the E Staal trade.

Well, Kovacs has played all of 8 games in Sweden's top league, whereas Saarela had played almost 50 Games in the top Finnish league before he was 18.
- BINGO!

The Rangers drafted Kovacs before Sarella, so at least in their eyes, he was a better prospect. But, this all comes down to a projection of what you think the player can be, not what they are when they are 17-18 years old. There are some players that tear up Juniors, but just can't make the pro transition. I am assuming the same is probably true with the good European leagues.

It was just the dumbest (frank)ing trade. People complain about the MSL trade or the Yandle trade, I would still take those any and everyday over the E Staal trade.
- mdw7413

I don't know. Most second rounders have a less than 50% of chance of even becoming NHLers. So, you give up a couple of second round picks, I don't think it kills you, and you can supplement elsewhere.

While Duclair isn't my favorite player, you can make the argument that he has high end potential, so I think that hurts more than giving up a couple of non first round picks.

But, I do realize that the Rangers draft well after the first round, as evidenced by the fact that Duclair and Buchnevich were both 3rd rounders, so there is an argument to be made the other way as well.

I still don't sweat the Staal trade much. It just didn't work out.

Dominic Moore signed with Bruins. 1 year.

I don't know. Most second rounders have a less than 50% of chance of even becoming NHLers. So, you give up a couple of second round picks, I don't think it kills you, and you can supplement elsewhere.

While Duclair isn't my favorite player, you can make the argument that he has high end potential, so I think that hurts more than giving up a couple of non first round picks.

But, I do realize that the Rangers draft well after the first round, as evidenced by the fact that Duclair and Buchnevich were both 3rd rounders, so there is an argument to be made the other way as well.

I still don't sweat the Staal trade much. It just didn't work out.
- Pete V

Yeah its not that I sweat it Pete, its that it was so (frank)ing unnecessary that bothers me. At least the Yandle/Duclair one was to fill a need and Yandle while not very good at actual defense put up decent numbers and doesn't belong in a Jazzy.

Yeah its not that I sweat it Pete, its that it was so (frank)ing unnecessary that bothers me. At least the Yandle/Duclair one was to fill a need and Yandle while not very good at actual defense put up decent numbers and doesn't belong in a Jazzy.
- mdw7413

Just think if the Rangers went the opposite direction -- traded Yandle at the deadline and didn't acquire Staal. It would have been the opposite of taking their shot, but in hindsight, we would have a bunch more prospects/picks in the coffers.

But a deal like Vesey makes up for some of this. Maybe he doesn't sign unless he sees that the Rangers have a need to replenish the pool of young players.

Just think if the Rangers went the opposite direction -- traded Yandle at the deadline and didn't acquire Staal. It would have been the opposite of taking their shot, but in hindsight, we would have a bunch more prospects/picks in the coffers.

But a deal like Vesey makes up for some of this. Maybe he doesn't sign unless he sees that the Rangers have a need to replenish the pool of young players.
- Pete V

Well you know what they say about hindsight:

"A watched hindsight never boils"

I don't know. Most second rounders have a less than 50% of chance of even becoming NHLers. So, you give up a couple of second round picks, I don't think it kills you, and you can supplement elsewhere.

While Duclair isn't my favorite player, you can make the argument that he has high end potential, so I think that hurts more than giving up a couple of non first round picks.

But, I do realize that the Rangers draft well after the first round, as evidenced by the fact that Duclair and Buchnevich were both 3rd rounders, so there is an argument to be made the other way as well.

I still don't sweat the Staal trade much. It just didn't work out.
- Pete V

I agree. I would happily give up 2nds and lower level prospects than 1st round picks. other than McIlrath we have done pretty well of late with 1sts - Miller, Kreider, Skjei.

Dominic Moore signed with Bruins. 1 year.
- jimbro83

isn't he from Boston? went to Harvard so that's where I am getting that. good for him though. I loved Moore, heart and soul guy. we need more players like that on the team. he brought it every game.

Just think if the Rangers went the opposite direction -- traded Yandle at the deadline and didn't acquire Staal. It would have been the opposite of taking their shot, but in hindsight, we would have a bunch more prospects/picks in the coffers.

But a deal like Vesey makes up for some of this. Maybe he doesn't sign unless he sees that the Rangers have a need to replenish the pool of young players.
- Pete V

I was hoping they were going to do that.

Interesting point though about Vesey. Although I would have hoped they stockpiled picks if they went that way.

I agree. I would happily give up 2nds and lower level prospects than 1st round picks. other than McIlrath we have done pretty well of late with 1sts - Miller, Kreider, Skjei.
- richardson30

McIlrath has the highest ceiling of all of them

Pronger 2.0

isn't he from Boston? went to Harvard so that's where I am getting that. good for him though. I loved Moore, heart and soul guy. we need more players like that on the team. he brought it every game.
- richardson30

we need guys like Moore about 12 years younger than he is

we need guys like Moore about 12 years younger than he is
- jimbro83

Hrvik, Jooris

McIlrath has the highest ceiling of all of them

Pronger 2016
- rangerdanger94

agreed

agreed
- eichiefs9

RD make it way too easy for you

RD make it way too easy for you
- 21peter

Beat it, you're fired.