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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 29 @ 9:55 PM ET
Agreed. I'd love to see an Battle of Alberta series as well as an Oilers V Jets series seeing how the physicality between the two teams has balanced out a touch. A lot of exciting young talent on both teams, too.

As much as you guys might not feel it, I'd love to see Ottawa get new ownership that will be willing and able to spend the way a competitive team needs to. The Ontario rivalry is huge for the game.

- MaximumBone


Oh yeah, Oilers, Jets and Flames could all be classic matchups in the near future.

I wouldn't mind better ownership for the Sens at all. Battle of Ontario is fantastic. Sens vs. Habs as well.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 29 @ 10:07 PM ET
Oh yeah, Oilers, Jets and Flames could all be classic matchups in the near future.

I wouldn't mind better ownership for the Sens at all. Battle of Ontario is fantastic. Sens vs. Habs as well.

- Zezel


(frank) the sens
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 29 @ 10:22 PM ET
Oh yeah, Oilers, Jets and Flames could all be classic matchups in the near future.

I wouldn't mind better ownership for the Sens at all. Battle of Ontario is fantastic. Sens vs. Habs as well.

- Zezel

Just thinking about the future of Canadian teams really gets me stoked. Obviously it's been said about the Oilers for years, but it's bound to happen eventually for them and getting McDavid changed the entire course of the franchise.

The Leafs seem to be taking a better and more structured approach to rebuilding than the Oilers (mainly having young D anchors like Rielly and Gardiner in place before grabbing forwards) and drafting for talent (at least in 2014, 2015) over size (saw more of that in 2016).

The Jets already have a strong team with veterans like Buff, Wheeler, Little, Enstrom, and Perreault to help lead an astounding core of young players ranging from Scheifele, Ehlers, Laine, and Connor up front to Trouba (might want out), Morrissey, Hellebuyck, and Comrie on the back line.

Much to my dismay, Calgary's management has been running the ship real well and the firing of Hartley only helps. They've got a strong top-3 D as well as a great core of top-6 guys (adding Tkatchuk really balances it out). If their young goalies can develop, they're set up for long term success thanks in large part to the way they've been drafting. Picks like Kylington, Andersson, and Mangiapane in 2015 and Fox, Dube, and Phillips this past year all coming out of later rounds is fantastic (assuming they can make the transition to pros).
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 29 @ 10:27 PM ET
(frank) the sens
- Tumbleweed



BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Aug 29 @ 10:29 PM ET
Just thinking about the future of Canadian teams really gets me stoked. Obviously it's been said about the Oilers for years, but it's bound to happen eventually for them and getting McDavid changed the entire course of the franchise.

The Leafs seem to be taking a better and more structured approach to rebuilding than the Oilers (mainly having young D anchors like Rielly and Gardiner in place before grabbing forwards) and drafting for talent (at least in 2014, 2015) over size (saw more of that in 2016).

The Jets already have a strong team with veterans like Buff, Wheeler, Little, Enstrom, and Perreault to help lead an astounding core of young players ranging from Scheifele, Ehlers, Laine, and Connor up front to Trouba (might want out), Morrissey, Hellebuyck, and Comrie on the back line.

Much to my dismay, Calgary's management has been running the ship real well and the firing of Hartley only helps. They've got a strong top-3 D as well as a great core of top-6 guys (adding Tkatchuk really balances it out). If their young goalies can develop, they're set up for long term success thanks in large part to the way they've been drafting. Picks like Kylington, Andersson, and Mangiapane in 2015 and Fox, Dube, and Phillips this past year all coming out of later rounds is fantastic (assuming they can make the transition to pros).

- MaximumBone
So what you're saying is we can all agree that the Canucks suck, and won't be getting better any time soon.
philpo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.12.2009

Aug 29 @ 10:29 PM ET
And Debrusk is possibly the best one that they have
- lumlums



Still lol wouldn't even call him high-end
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 29 @ 10:29 PM ET
Just thinking about the future of Canadian teams really gets me stoked. Obviously it's been said about the Oilers for years, but it's bound to happen eventually for them and getting McDavid changed the entire course of the franchise.

The Leafs seem to be taking a better and more structured approach to rebuilding than the Oilers (mainly having young D anchors like Rielly and Gardiner in place before grabbing forwards) and drafting for talent (at least in 2014, 2015) over size (saw more of that in 2016).

The Jets already have a strong team with veterans like Buff, Wheeler, Little, Enstrom, and Perreault to help lead an astounding core of young players ranging from Scheifele, Ehlers, Laine, and Connor up front to Trouba (might want out), Morrissey, Hellebuyck, and Comrie on the back line.

Much to my dismay, Calgary's management has been running the ship real well and the firing of Hartley only helps. They've got a strong top-3 D as well as a great core of top-6 guys (adding Tkatchuk really balances it out). If their young goalies can develop, they're set up for long term success thanks in large part to the way they've been drafting. Picks like Kylington, Andersson, and Mangiapane in 2015 and Fox, Dube, and Phillips this past year all coming out of later rounds is fantastic (assuming they can make the transition to pros).

- MaximumBone



Yeah man. Fun times ahead on HNIC, I can dig it.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Aug 29 @ 10:31 PM ET
So what you're saying is we can all agree that the Canucks suck, and won't be getting better any time soon.
- BetterCallSaul


Lol yeah notice nobody mentioned the Canucks.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 29 @ 10:32 PM ET
So what you're saying is we can all agree that the Canucks suck, and won't be getting better any time soon.
- BetterCallSaul

Precisely

I just don't see them as a threat in any way, shape, or form. Their offense is built around Horvat who likely tops out at 50-55 points, Virtanen who just doesn't impress me in any capacity, and Brock Boeser (arguably their biggest threat offensively). Aside from Juolevi, their D prospects don't do much for me and the fans are already pushing for Edler and Tanev to be moved. Tryamkin might be something, but he's far from a guarantee at anything.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 29 @ 10:32 PM ET
Mike Augello: Leafs Atop ESPN’s Prospect Depth List
- mikeinbuffalo



"And it isn't even close"


n8butts
Joined: 08.28.2011

Aug 29 @ 10:43 PM ET
I would love to see a JVR+ for Hampus Lindholm from the ducks type trade…
What would it take? JVR + 2nd rounder + Peter Holland?
n8butts
Joined: 08.28.2011

Aug 29 @ 10:43 PM ET
I would love to see a JVR+ for Hampus Lindholm from the ducks type trade…
What would it take? JVR + 2nd rounder + Peter Holland?
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 29 @ 10:48 PM ET
I would love to see a JVR+ for Hampus Lindholm from the ducks type trade…
What would it take? JVR + 2nd rounder + Peter Holland?

- n8butts

Probably alot more
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 29 @ 10:49 PM ET
I would love to see a JVR+ for Hampus Lindholm from the ducks type trade…
What would it take? JVR + 2nd rounder + Peter Holland?

- n8butts

I think you undervalue Lindholm here. I get JVR is a very good asset, but you're asking for their best Dman in a trade. Unless contract talks start becoming contentious, I don't see a world where they'd trade him. He's already at least a top-30 Dman in the league (I'd argue top-20 even) and he's only 22.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 29 @ 10:56 PM ET
Just thinking about the future of Canadian teams really gets me stoked. Obviously it's been said about the Oilers for years, but it's bound to happen eventually for them and getting McDavid changed the entire course of the franchise.

The Leafs seem to be taking a better and more structured approach to rebuilding than the Oilers (mainly having young D anchors like Rielly and Gardiner in place before grabbing forwards) and drafting for talent (at least in 2014, 2015) over size (saw more of that in 2016).

The Jets already have a strong team with veterans like Buff, Wheeler, Little, Enstrom, and Perreault to help lead an astounding core of young players ranging from Scheifele, Ehlers, Laine, and Connor up front to Trouba (might want out), Morrissey, Hellebuyck, and Comrie on the back line.

Much to my dismay, Calgary's management has been running the ship real well and the firing of Hartley only helps. They've got a strong top-3 D as well as a great core of top-6 guys (adding Tkatchuk really balances it out). If their young goalies can develop, they're set up for long term success thanks in large part to the way they've been drafting. Picks like Kylington, Andersson, and Mangiapane in 2015 and Fox, Dube, and Phillips this past year all coming out of later rounds is fantastic (assuming they can make the transition to pros).

- MaximumBone


Ya man. Oilers, Leafs, Flames and Winny all on the rise big time. Ottawa even has some nice young pieces but they will forever be irrelevant. With four teams poised for greatness the cup is bound to come back North of the border where it belongs.
Njuice
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Aug 29 @ 10:58 PM ET
Leafs prospect pool is 1st now, but after this season with all our awesome rookies moving up to the NHL we will be back in the middle of the pack for prospects. But rising quickly to the top of the NHL standings. (frank) yeah!
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:01 PM ET
Lol yeah notice nobody mentioned the Canucks.
- Zezel


They did over at PPP...


lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 29 @ 11:08 PM ET
Leafs prospect pool is 1st now, but after this season with all our awesome rookies moving up to the NHL we will be back in the middle of the pack for prospects. But rising quickly to the top of the NHL standings. (frank) yeah!
- Njuice


Yeah, some have better depth (Wpg have great all-round depth, Philly have possibly the best D prospects, Arizona has the best depth of forwards) but the Leafs have the best high-end forward talent of all prospects (I'm assuming that anybody who has been considered/qualified for the Calder to no longer be a prospect).
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 29 @ 11:56 PM ET
Yeah, some have better depth (Wpg have great all-round depth, Philly have possibly the best D prospects, Arizona has the best depth of forwards) but the Leafs have the best high-end forward talent of all prospects (I'm assuming that anybody who has been considered/qualified for the Calder to no longer be a prospect).
- lumlums

Leafs forward prospects are great for high end talent and depth wise. Theres decent depth for dmen but no high end D prospects which is really lacking. Woll seems like a decent goalie prospect but the rest is very meh for goalies. Pronman does his top 100 tomorrow, here's my stab at his top 10 for fun:
1. Laine
2. Mathews
3. Marner
4. Puljujarvi
5.Nylander
6.Strome
7.Rantenen
8.Werenski
9.Keller
10.Dubois
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 30 @ 12:01 AM ET
Leafs forward prospects are great for high end talent and depth wise. Theres decent depth for dmen but no high end D prospects which is really lacking. Woll seems like a decent goalie prospect but the rest is very meh for goalies. Pronman does his top 100 tomorrow, here's my stab at his top 10 for fun:

1a. Vesey
1b. Laine
2. Mathews
3. Marner
4. Puljujarvi
5.Nylander
6.Strome
7.Rantenen
8.Werenski
9.Keller
10.Dubois

- ClarksonDavid


Fixed.

Good list though
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 30 @ 12:03 AM ET
Fixed.

Good list though

- Tumbleweed

I didn't bother with Vesey there because it should be assumed by now.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 30 @ 12:25 AM ET
Leafs forward prospects are great for high end talent and depth wise. Theres decent depth for dmen but no high end D prospects which is really lacking. Woll seems like a decent goalie prospect but the rest is very meh for goalies. Pronman does his top 100 tomorrow, here's my stab at his top 10 for fun:
1. Laine
2. Mathews
3. Marner
4. Puljujarvi
5.Nylander
6.Strome
7.Rantenen
8.Werenski
9.Keller
10.Dubois

- ClarksonDavid


Didn't I just see Matthews get drafted at #1 a few months ago? Except for a few spatsos, he was the consensus #1 pick.

So without either of them playing 1 game, you decided Laine is better. A winger is better than a #1C?

Wow.


Edit: just saw you said Pronman's top 10....my bad unless this is yours too.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 30 @ 12:32 AM ET
Didn't I just see Matthews get drafted at #1 a few months ago? Except for a few spatsos, he was the consensus #1 pick.

So without either of them playing 1 game, you decided Laine is better. A winger is better than a #1C?

Wow.


Edit: just saw you said Pronman's top 10....my bad unless this is yours too.

- underhill14

Well this is my guess at Pronmans list and I know he is going to put Laine at 1 so I think Mathews is a better prospect, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few people out there that think Laine is a better prospect (Pronman) and I definitely wouldn't call them idiots and not take anything else they say serious after, I can see why some people might prefer Laine over Mathews. Aside from Laine over Mathews this is pretty much what I'd rank the top 10 but I kinda did it off the top my head.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Aug 30 @ 12:45 AM ET
That guy
- lumlums



guy plays sports at a pros level - how it should be done
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Aug 30 @ 12:46 AM ET
Well this is my guess at Pronmans list and I know he is going to put Laine at 1 so I think Mathews is a better prospect, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a few people out there that think Laine is a better prospect (Pronman) and I definitely wouldn't call them idiots and not take anything else they say serious after, I can see why some people might prefer Laine over Mathews. Aside from Laine over Mathews this is pretty much what I'd rank the top 10 but I kinda did it off the top my head.
- ClarksonDavid

This is why I dont come here often anymore
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