Gionta had 15 more. Not really a big reflection on Nichuskin being so much better than Girgensons I'd think.
- stashu

Gionta is irrelevant to this discussion though. We're talking about the relative value between Nichushkin and Girgensons. Also, Gionta is like 83 years old.

Is it time to start being worried about the Risto contract delay?
- RhinoFan

Not yet. Lindholm and Trouba haven't signed yet either on defense and Johnny Gaudreau at forward.

Gionta is irrelevant to this discussion though. We're talking about the relative value between Nichushkin and Girgensons. Also, Gionta is like 83 years old.
- Wetbandit1

But yet he did much better than both of those young 1st round draftees.

Gionta is irrelevant to this discussion though. We're talking about the relative value between Nichushkin and Girgensons. Also, Gionta is like 83 years old.
- Wetbandit1

What's his nuts in Tampa too

What's his nuts in Tampa too
- stashu

Oh yeah. I forgot about Kucherov too. Someone posted it earlier; It's a staring contest now. Risto and Lindholm will use Trouba as a comp and all the permutations of those three. Monahan signed recently and I'm sure Kucherov and Gaudreau are using him as a comp too.

I'm not at all concerned about it. Ennis went well into September before he signed. Sure it was a little different, there was a lockout looming, but they still got it done before the lockout. There would have been an offer sheet already if one was coming. They either need to get rid of the offer sheet, or lower the cost to make it feasible to actually offer one.

Oh yeah. I forgot about Kucherov too. Someone posted it earlier; It's a staring contest now. Risto and Lindholm will use Trouba as a comp and all the permutations of those three. Monahan signed recently and I'm sure Kucherov and Gaudreau are using him as a comp too.

I'm not at all concerned about it. Ennis went well into September before he signed. Sure it was a little different, there was a lockout looming, but they still got it done before the lockout. There would have been an offer sheet already if one was coming. They either need to get rid of the offer sheet, or lower the cost to make it feasible to actually offer one.
- Wetbandit1

The Reilly, Maatta, and Seth Jones deals should be the comparable for Trouba and Risto. I don't think either should be counting on getting close to what Lindholm will or should

Is it time to start being worried about the Risto contract delay?
- RhinoFan

no, why ? he isn't going anyplace.

no, why ? he isn't going anyplace.
- SABRES 89

He's a no brainer for us...so the lack of a deal could be, perhaps, him trying to get a higher number than proposed or logical. I have no reason to believe that to be the case yet the possibility remains as there are many RFA's that have signed, which is why I asked. I know Johnny Hockey was still in limbo, but if Trouba is as well I find that comforting.

I'm a Buffalo Sports fan, I'm paranoid alright!

The Reilly, Maatta, and Seth Jones deals should be the comparable for Trouba and Risto. I don't think either should be counting on getting close to what Lindholm will or should
- sbroads24

Lindholm had 28 points last year. Risto had 41. Points weigh heavily, even for defensemen. Lindholm was +7 Risto was -21. Lindholm played 22:00 Risto played 25:16. Those are the 3 big categories they use. They are extremely old fashioned. Some advanced stats are creeping in slowly. I think they just allowed Corsi in the arbitration process last year. But that's it.

He's a no brainer for us...so the lack of a deal could be, perhaps, him trying to get a higher number than proposed or logical. I have no reason to believe that to be the case yet the possibility remains as there are many RFA's that have signed, which is why I asked. I know Johnny Hockey was still in limbo, but if Trouba is as well I find that comforting.

I'm a Buffalo Sports fan, I'm paranoid alright!
- RhinoFan

It's really not a big deal. Yet. If the World Cup starts without a deal you can start to feel uneasy. If training camp starts, the portion he'd attend after the World Cup, you can start to worry.

He's a no brainer for us...so the lack of a deal could be, perhaps, him trying to get a higher number than proposed or logical. I have no reason to believe that to be the case yet the possibility remains as there are many RFA's that have signed, which is why I asked. I know Johnny Hockey was still in limbo, but if Trouba is as well I find that comforting.

I'm a Buffalo Sports fan, I'm paranoid alright!
- RhinoFan

Risto is not asking for any number as of now

Risto is not asking for any number as of now
- SABRES 89

not sure what they are waiting for with him

Take THAT you (frank)ing clock!!

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=17416678

Take THAT you (frank)ing clock!!

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=17416678
- Wetbandit1

Take THAT you (frank)ing clock!!

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=17416678
- Wetbandit1

Risto is not asking for any number as of now
- SABRES 89

So if hes not asking for any number is it # of years thats the issue right now?

So if hes not asking for any number is it # of years thats the issue right now?
- Sabresfan-365

According to Murray it is, or was, maybe 89 has fresh info.

According to Murray it is, or was, maybe 89 has fresh info.
- Wetbandit1

Not really a surprise all things considered.

Vegas could do like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim thing and go: Las Vegas Knights of the Mojave. That sounds way better than Las Vegas Desert Knights.

Vegas could do like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim thing and go: Las Vegas Knights of the Mojave. That sounds way better than Las Vegas Desert Knights.
- Wetbandit1

Knights could be tough . Most will think it's "nights" Actually both work.

Bunch of us might try this out this weekend.

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5 biggest liabilities on the sabres roster right now


go

Bunch of us might try this out this weekend.
- cabin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFL2GT1-2g
2:50 mark