Dude... the leafs are the best young team in the league. Wayyy ahead of Buffalo or Edmonton right now. Just ask Augello.
- Rinosaur

I thought you were going to say Tanner

If Ray Shero can trade for Fowler, then there is little reason to trade for Shattenkirk. Devils need a guy for a couple years and not a one year rental. But who knows how these things play out...

If Ray Shero can trade for Fowler, then there is little reason to trade for Shattenkirk. Devils need a guy for a couple years and not a one year rental. But who knows how these things play out...
- Queenie_5_hole

Let's start with this: Shero LOVES defensemen. He believe a team is best constructed from the back-end. Trust me, I know this lol.

I can't tell you how year after year, we as Pens fans, were sick and tired of him always drafting dmen in the first round. He did this to the point that we had no top forward prospects in the system.

Shero would not be viewing Shattenkirk as a rental. He'll try and lock him up as soon as can if he does in fact trade for him.

Fowler and Shattenkirk are exactly the type of moves I'd expect him to try and secure. He'll worry about the rest later.

I find it interesting that people are talking about Hampus Lindholm (Lumpy) and thinking that he may sign a non-bridge deal at something around $5.5 or less.

Hampus, already, is a top 15 dman in the NHL. His agent is using the Ekblad deal as his comp and frankly.....it's a good comp. Hampus will not sign for anything less than $7 million per and that may force a trade for himself out of town.

If I was Toronto, i would literally be throwing whatever it took to get Lindholm right now. JVR, Kapanen, Brown +++ or whatever it would take. Same thing for Carolina, New Jersey, Edmonton, the Islanders...the list could go on and on.

Lumpy is that good.
- Dollars2Donuts

I am not sure why you would add the Islanders in this mix. With Leddy, Hamonic, Boychuk, DeHaan, Hickey, Pulock, Pelech, and Mayfield, the Islanders are just fine. Hamonic has dropped his trade request and loves being an Islander, so we're fine; in fact there was talk of the team moving Boychuk for a top 6 forward, with the name Landeskog being mentioned.

Both those guys are much, MUCH better than Fowler. I'm pretty sure Marincin and Zaitsev are both better than Fowler too. Not because they're world beaters, but mainly because Fowler is pretty poopty for the most part.
- djamon

There isn't a Leaf defenseman that could crack the Islanders top 4 with the possible exception of Rielly and that would be as our fourth! And YES Fowler is better than any Leaf defenseman. Period.

I find it interesting that people are talking about Hampus Lindholm (Lumpy) and thinking that he may sign a non-bridge deal at something around $5.5 or less.

Hampus, already, is a top 15 dman in the NHL. His agent is using the Ekblad deal as his comp and frankly.....it's a good comp. Hampus will not sign for anything less than $7 million per and that may force a trade for himself out of town.

If I was Toronto, i would literally be throwing whatever it took to get Lindholm right now. JVR, Kapanen, Brown +++ or whatever it would take. Same thing for Carolina, New Jersey, Edmonton, the Islanders...the list could go on and on.

Lumpy is that good.
- Dollars2Donuts

Lindholm is awesome, and I'd love to have him on the team. The only downside is that what the Leafs really need is a top pair guy who shoots right, especially as Babcock likes his opposite-handed pairs. I do appreciate of course that having a great lefty is better than a meh righty, but if you're moving out a ton of assets for somebody, it's preferable to get somebody who checks all the boxes.

Let's start with this: Shero LOVES defensemen. He believe a team is best constructed from the back-end. Trust me, I know this lol.

I can't tell you how year after year, we as Pens fans, were sick and tired of him always drafting dmen in the first round. He did this to the point that we had no top forward prospects in the system.

Shero would not be viewing Shattenkirk as a rental. He'll try and lock him up as soon as can if he does in fact trade for him.

Fowler and Shattenkirk are exactly the type of moves I'd expect him to try and secure. He'll worry about the rest later.
- Rinosaur

Ray sounds like a great fit for NJ! Although he's drafted us mostly Forwards and Goalies which were glaring needs. NJ had a lot of D men in the system and Shero has added some via FA. Still I'd be surprised if he can work out something on Fowler, Shattenkirk or even Lindholm.

What a pile of BS. Yes Anaheim has an internal cap over the last 2 seasons. Murray said his cap was going up this year in his season ending news conference & with almost 30 mil coming in expansion revenue very soon I think Murray will do as he pleases. Go review Anaheim's cap space on NHLnumbers.com since 2007. Anaheim has spent to the cap give or take a mil or 2 when required in many of those years. Several they didn't have to as key players were making peanuts.

Fowler isn't moving at any form of discount. What a pile of sensationalism garbage.
- striker777

30 mil doesn't even cover half of the ducks salaries for a year.

I find it interesting that people are talking about Hampus Lindholm (Lumpy) and thinking that he may sign a non-bridge deal at something around $5.5 or less.

Hampus, already, is a top 15 dman in the NHL. His agent is using the Ekblad deal as his comp and frankly.....it's a good comp. Hampus will not sign for anything less than $7 million per and that may force a trade for himself out of town.

If I was Toronto, i would literally be throwing whatever it took to get Lindholm right now. JVR, Kapanen, Brown +++ or whatever it would take. Same thing for Carolina, New Jersey, Edmonton, the Islanders...the list could go on and on.

Lumpy is that good.
- Dollars2Donuts

I doubt any team would be willing to give bob what he would want for lindholm . Trouba , Berie , Shattenkirk . None of those guys have been traded . If any team really wanted a dman they could have had one. I think most teams are just looking for a deal .

There isn't a Leaf defenseman that could crack the Islanders top 4 with the possible exception of Rielly and that would be as our fourth! And YES Fowler is better than any Leaf defenseman. Period.
- temmer29

Rielly is better than Fowler... Gardiner might be as well... but thats debatable, saying Rielly would be the Isles' 4th best D, that's just ridiculous

Cool. It's a huge upgrade.
- gergeswillems

There isn't a Leaf defenseman that could crack the Islanders top 4 with the possible exception of Rielly and that would be as our fourth! And YES Fowler is better than any Leaf defenseman. Period.
- temmer29

Lindholm is awesome, and I'd love to have him on the team. The only downside is that what the Leafs really need is a top pair guy who shoots right, especially as Babcock likes his opposite-handed pairs. I do appreciate of course that having a great lefty is better than a meh righty, but if you're moving out a ton of assets for somebody, it's preferable to get somebody who checks all the boxes.
- lumlums

Good point about handedness, but if the Leafs could get a reasonable deal with Lindholm, I'd be far too excited to care which way he shot. Getting a guy like Lindholm changes the whole Leafs' defense.

Sweeten the pot by rollin' it in a dutch. 420

- nbboy

Your honor, please let the record show that all Islander fans are not represented by that guy.

Good point about handedness, but if the Leafs could get a reasonable deal with Lindholm, I'd be far too excited to care which way he shot. Getting a guy like Lindholm changes the whole Leafs' defense.
- SolidGoldBricks

You'll get Josh Bailey and like it

I hope ekland is wrong . I don't know when we can but i rather do a buy out . I'd rathet trade simon depres for peanuts . I'd rather watch half our fowards be prospects than get worked over in a trade . Maybe bobs trying to package a bad contract with a good player like Florida did. Who knows . But anyway you look at it , bob severely underestimated the trade market . I mean if he knew it was going to be this bad he would have bought out bieska or stoner when he could have .
- Eman87654

everytime

It's Monday, ding dong! What time today? We are not all retired & just waiting with baited breath. Just be courteous, I keep asking for a little respect but clearly you have none!

everytime
- southpaww82

Well . With angels being so bad i can't help it . Even the great play of mike trout can't console me . #troutmvp

Fair deal for two teams looking to make moves.

To ANA: Jacob Trouba, Winnipeg 2017 3rd round pick

To WPG: Hampus Lindholm

Fair deal for two teams looking to make moves.

To ANA: Jacob Trouba, Winnipeg 2017 3rd round pick

To WPG: Hampus Lindholm
- TheUltimateJet

Fair deal for two teams looking to make moves.

To ANA: Jacob Trouba, Winnipeg 2017 3rd round pick

To WPG: Hampus Lindholm
- TheUltimateJet

I'm sure Jets fans would be very happy.

Fair deal for two teams looking to make moves.

To ANA: Jacob Trouba, Winnipeg 2017 3rd round pick

To WPG: Hampus Lindholm
- TheUltimateJet

How is that fair for Anaheim?

Fair deal for two teams looking to make moves.

To ANA: Jacob Trouba, Winnipeg 2017 3rd round pick

To WPG: Hampus Lindholm
- TheUltimateJet

You're kidding right

Again, it comes down to what each team wants. To me, a goalie prospect wouldn't be high on the Ducks' list of wants/needs. If I'm ANA, I'm want a young top-six forward still on his ELC. Again, that's what I'd WANT, but not necessarily get. ANA needs scoring since they've basically lost all their LWs lol. Cam could make sense to them too if the cap isn't an issue, but it appears like it is.

I don't know that moving Greene makes sense for STL. While yes, they're losing a dman so getting one in return would be good, I think they have different needs to fill. Even without Shattenkirk STL has a pretty solid d-core.

If I'm you guys I'd attempt it like this:

TO STL: Cammalleri
TO NJ: Shattenkirk

TO ANA: 2017 1st Round Pick, your selection from this year's draft and John Merril.
TO NJ: Cam Fowler

The ANA/NJ trade is probably way off, but again, I don't know what they want or what you have that they'd want.
- Rinosaur

Interesting, I think its just the opposite.
TO STL: 2017 1st Round Pick, Boucher/Blandisi and John Merrill.
TO NJ: Shattenkirk
STL needs scoring depth at C and LW so one of B&B answers this

TO ANA: Cammalleri retaining at least 50% of his $5M (2 yrs remaining), and a player/prospect, maybe Pietila or Kalinin or similar, but needs to be cheap for Ana
TO NJ: Cam Fowler

ANA needs a #1 LW and I think Cams is it with salary retention, the add is to sweeten when Cams goes down, and yes I know add is not a #1 LW but IF Cams stays healthy its just an addl body for insurance

Fans of Ana and StL will go nuts with above but I don't think its too far off