Sorry, I am not on the Hartnell bandwagon. 34yrs old, signed for 3 more years at 4.75M/yr, NMC. I like the type of player but not his age and contract.
- Symba007

His and Emelins cap hit are almost identical... with Weber, Petry, Pateryn and Redmond on the right side, the Habs can subtract Emelin without even affecting the blue line much! Hartnell will still score 20+ goals and bring a big, annoying body to the 2nd line and really round out the top 6

You forgot McCarron
- Symba007

Could not find a spot for him, but I would like to see him in mtl. Pretty sure a guy like Andrighetto has a one way deal.

Trade Emelin for Hartnell

Galchenyuk with Pacioretty and Radulov
Plekanec with Gallagher and Hartnell
McCarron with Shaw and Carr
- obie

McCarron will play in St-John, and so will Sherback.
Next year they'll be ready, or at the TDL.

His and Emelins cap hit are almost identical... with Weber, Petry, Pateryn and Redmond on the right side, the Habs can subtract Emelin without even affecting the blue line much! Hartnell will still score 20+ goals and bring a big, annoying body to the 2nd line and really round out the top 6
- obie

Emelin plays on the left side, but I get your point. He could go.

Emelin plays on the left side, but I get your point. He could go.
- fidopro

He sure does... my bad!

Trade Emelin for Hartnell

Galchenyuk with Pacioretty and Radulov
Plekanec with Gallagher and Hartnell
McCarron with Shaw and Carr
- obie

Why the (frank) would anyone want Hartnell?

His and Emelins cap hit are almost identical... with Weber, Petry, Pateryn and Redmond on the right side, the Habs can subtract Emelin without even affecting the blue line much! Hartnell will still score 20+ goals and bring a big, annoying body to the 2nd line and really round out the top 6
- obie

He answered that..

Why the (frank) would anyone want Hartnell?
- Mashadar

Cause Hartnell would provide the habs with way more of what they actually need than Emelin would for almost the same cap hit

Cause Hartnell would provide the habs with way more of what they actually need than Emelin would for almost the same cap hit
- obie

With a poopty contract and declining skills?

(frank) no.

With a poopty contract and declining skills?

(frank) no.
- Mashadar

To each his own... Emelin is almost irrelevant on the blue line at a fairly high price tag... you will get top 6 value out of Hartnell for at least 2 of those remaining 3 years

Cause Hartnell would provide the habs with way more of what they actually need than Emelin would for almost the same cap hit
- obie

Obie trice, real name no gimmicks.


Always wanted to post that.

Obie trice, real name no gimmicks.


Always wanted to post that.
- pete26

😊 I always used it in high school, Obie being my actual last name... that and obie wan, was real tempted to name my son Ken Obie

To each his own... Emelin is almost irrelevant on the blue line at a fairly high price tag... you will get top 6 value out of Hartnell for at least 2 of those remaining 3 years
- obie

Hartnell has a NMC, Emelin has a limited NTC with 10 teams he won't go to. Odds are even if both teams would agree, one of the 2 players won't.

Hartnell has a NMC, Emelin has a limited NTC with 10 teams he won't go to. Odds are even if both teams would agree, one of the 2 players won't.
- Symba007

Hartnell would waive in a heartbeat...

Hartnell would waive in a heartbeat...
- obie

odds are Emelin has Columbus on his NT list, rumour is he has already refused a trade in the past when he had a NMC, not sure where he was supposed to go.

😊 I always used it in high school, Obie being my actual last name... that and obie wan, was real tempted to name my son Ken Obie
- obie

I have a friend who's last name is Sittler, said if ever had a son, he'd name him Adolf.

odds are Emelin has Columbus on his NT list, rumour is he has already refused a trade in the past when he had a full NTC, not sure where he was supposed to go.
- Symba007

He may find himself the odd man out on the blue line in Montreal, so ultimately he'll have to choose between playing or not playing more than anything else

odds are Emelin has Columbus on his NT list, rumour is he has already refused a trade in the past when he had a full NTC, not sure where he was supposed to go.
- Symba007

Emelin is not that bad, it's just that he's overpaid for a 3rd pairing dman. Money they could use for a legit 2nd line LW. (or a partner for Weber)
I'm not crazy about Hartnell, but let's face it, that's probably the best return they could get for Emelin...

He may find himself the odd man out on the blue line in Montreal, so ultimately he'll have to choose between playing or not playing more than anything else
- obie

4m sitting and eating popcorn.

That don't make MB look so good.

Emelin is not that bad, it's just that he's overpaid for a 3rd pairing dman. Money they could use for a legit 2nd line LW.
I'm not crazy about Hartnell, but let's face it, that's probably the best return they could get for Emelin...
- fidopro

Exactly... ideally I'd love JVR or Simmonds to play on the left side but those guys are either not available or would cost core pieces to acquire, Hartnell is obviously a short term solution but would bring the same kind of attributes and would cost next to nothing. You're right, Emelin is not that bad and that's why Columbus would most likely be interested in this deal as well... but from the Habs point of view, playing Barberio instead of Emelin on the 3rd pairing is not really a drop off at all but putting Hartnell on that 2nd line is an obvious upgrade

Exactly... ideally I'd love JVR or Simmonds to play on the left side but those guys are either not available or would cost core pieces to acquire, Hartnell is obviously a short term solution but would bring the same kind of attributes and would cost next to nothing. You're right, Emelin is not that bad and that's why Columbus would most likely be interested in this deal as well... but from the Habs point of view, playing Barberio instead of Emelin on the 3rd pairing is not really a drop off at all but putting Hartnell on that 2nd line is an obvious upgrade
- obie

I would rather package Emelin with picks and prospects to get someone younger and faster. Like Kreider. Or some similar type of player.

I would rather package Emelin with picks and prospects to get someone younger and faster. Like Kreider.
- fidopro

But the Rangers have no interest in trading Kreider... especially not for spare parts...

But the Rangers have no interest in trading Kreider... especially not for spare parts...
- obie

Don't have to be him, that type of player. Size and speed.
I'm afraid Hartnell isn't fast enough anynore, and it won't get any better.

Don't have to be him, that type of player. Size and speed.
I'm afraid Hartnell isn't fast enough anynore, and it won't get any better.
- fidopro

Hartnell's game has never been about speed... he screens the goalie, tips pucks in and capitalizes on rebounds, always hard to handle around the net and generally a pain to play against... with little cap space and very little valuable assets to part with Hartnell for Emelin would be a steal for Montreal

If anyone is wondering, I'm not obie.