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The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Aug 27 @ 2:28 PM ET
What ever points Mathews scores next season .... Liane will score at least 15 more points...... Go Jets Go
- Deanyoungblood7


Spezza outscored Toews last year, while playing significantly less time on the ice. Does that mean you'd take him over Jonathan if you were picking a team.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Aug 27 @ 3:08 PM ET
Spezza outscored Toews last year, while playing significantly less time on the ice. Does that mean you'd take him over Jonathan if you were picking a team.
- The Shrike

Yes....50 pts or bust.
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Aug 27 @ 3:10 PM ET
Idk barring an injury (frank me)20 goals and 25-35 asst. Seems resonable, but I do think that lame in winni will get more cookies! 25-30ish he's going to be a big deal scorer
domi_legend
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 27 @ 3:20 PM ET
Idk barring an injury (frank me)20 goals and 25-35 asst. Seems resonable, but I do think that lame in winni will get more cookies! 25-30ish he's going to be a big deal scorer
- MR.Hunter


Maybe. But Laine is a kessel. Matthews is a Toews.

One of these is good for the team no matter what. The other, if not scoring, is hurting the team.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Aug 27 @ 3:23 PM ET
Maybe. But Laine is a kessel. Matthews is a Toews.

One of these is good for the team no matter what. The other, if not scoring, is hurting the team.

- domi_legend

Laine is 18 and you have him pegged already...
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

Aug 27 @ 3:32 PM ET
Not comparing the two,on overall game, but I do think lami gets more goals, with the centers winni has ,overall I still love Mathews better!and will probably get more assts. We'll see but exciting times for both clubs!
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Aug 27 @ 3:52 PM ET
25g,32a,57 pts
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Aug 27 @ 4:09 PM ET
Idk barring an injury (frank me)20 goals and 25-35 asst. Seems resonable, but I do think that lame in winni will get more cookies! 25-30ish he's going to be a big deal scorer
- MR.Hunter


Laine 25-30g, 15-20A
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Aug 27 @ 4:24 PM ET
17 25 42
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Aug 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
Maybe. But Laine is a kessel. Matthews is a Toews.

One of these is good for the team no matter what. The other, if not scoring, is hurting the team.

- domi_legend

Laine doesn't have Kessel's wheels but a fair comparison I think as they're both one dimensional snipers. And that's not to take away from either of them - teams need a bonafide sniper. The Jets are going to be scary good if all of that young potential is realized.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Aug 27 @ 6:09 PM ET
17 25 42
- Aetherial


yup - something in that range.


if Bozak is moved at the TDL ... then post deadline points could increase - in a situation similar to Rielly and Phaneuf last year... where Rielly had VERY LITTLE PP time prior to Dion's departure.
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 27 @ 6:12 PM ET
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ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 27 @ 7:35 PM ET
Not comparing the two,on overall game, but I do think lami gets more goals, with the centers winni has ,overall I still love Mathews better!and will probably get more assts. We'll see but exciting times for both clubs!
- MR.Hunter

Toews is overrated as (frank).
Bruiniak
Boston Bruins
Location: MA
Joined: 07.01.2016

Aug 27 @ 10:00 PM ET
Not a big fan of Matthews. Never have been. Eichel is a better player so I doubt he outscores him. I would say 10-12 goals and 15-20 assists. 50 pts is a real stretch.
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 27 @ 10:04 PM ET
Not a big fan of Matthews. Never have been. Eichel is a better player so I doubt he outscores him. I would say 10-12 goals and 15-20 assists. 50 pts is a real stretch.
- Bruiniak

BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Aug 27 @ 10:33 PM ET
Not a big fan of Matthews. Never have been. Eichel is a better player so I doubt he outscores him. I would say 10-12 goals and 15-20 assists. 50 pts is a real stretch.
- Bruiniak

You're that guy who claimed that Jim Jimmy Vesey told friends and family (eluding to yourself) that he was going to sign in Boston, right?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 27 @ 10:39 PM ET
Not a big fan of Matthews. Never have been. Eichel is a better player so I doubt he outscores him. I would say 10-12 goals and 15-20 assists. 50 pts is a real stretch.
- Bruiniak


Dollars2Donuts
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 08.30.2015

Aug 27 @ 10:54 PM ET
I think that 20-30-50 is very realistic and that he will fall +/- 5 in both goals and assists, barring injury of course.

I actually like Matthews better overall than Eichel in most aspects of the game. I don't believe you will see him cherry pick and go on breakaways quite as much as Eichel and that may cost him a few points.

I also think that he will have less proven talent around him. The Leafs lineup this year could be in a state of flux all year this year while kids settle in. Because of that you could see a 15-25-40 year and I don't think that should be seen as a disappointment.

Just remember this....Joe Thornton had 3-4-7 in 55 games in his first year. Sometimes there is an adjustment period. Just sayin'.
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 27 @ 10:57 PM ET
I think that 20-30-50 is very realistic and that he will fall +/- 5 in both goals and assists, barring injury of course.

I actually like Matthews better overall than Eichel in most aspects of the game. I don't believe you will see him cherry pick and go on breakaways quite as much as Eichel and that may cost him a few points.

I also think that he will have less proven talent around him. The Leafs lineup this year could be in a state of flux all year this year while kids settle in. Because of that you could see a 15-25-40 year and I don't think that should be seen as a disappointment.

Just remember this....Joe Thornton had 3-4-7 in 55 games in his first year. Sometimes there is an adjustment period. Just sayin'.

- Dollars2Donuts

Interesting fact!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Aug 28 @ 12:59 AM ET
Anyone think Babcock will play him 10 & send him down to protect him? Maybe bring him back up after TDL after the fire sale?
AustonPowers
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Supreme Manager of the Johnny Boychuk to EDM Thread
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 28 @ 1:11 AM ET
Anyone think Babcock will play him 10 & send him down to protect him? Maybe bring him back up after TDL after the fire sale?
- Aussiepenguin

no, I don't think this
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Aug 28 @ 3:46 AM ET
Not a big fan of Matthews. Never have been. Eichel is a better player so I doubt he outscores him. I would say 10-12 goals and 15-20 assists. 50 pts is a real stretch.
- Bruiniak


25-32 pts. surely a joke right? Nail yakupov put up 31 in the lockout season.
Matthews has better stats than EIchel at the USHL, world junior, AND world championship levels. He also has a year pro under his belt, and will have competed against the worlds best at the world cup of hockey. to predict 40-55% of Eichels total is beyond dumb. will save this one for future reference though, its that silly
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Aug 28 @ 3:48 AM ET
Anyone think Babcock will play him 10 & send him down to protect him? Maybe bring him back up after TDL after the fire sale?
- Aussiepenguin


you have a better chance of winning the lottery. the media in toronto would eat that up, and it would destroy the kids confidence. how would you have felt if the pens did the same with crosby or malkin? those guys turned out alright on dumpsterfire pens team didnt they?
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Aug 28 @ 3:52 AM ET
I think that 20-30-50 is very realistic and that he will fall +/- 5 in both goals and assists, barring injury of course.

I actually like Matthews better overall than Eichel in most aspects of the game. I don't believe you will see him cherry pick and go on breakaways quite as much as Eichel and that may cost him a few points.

I also think that he will have less proven talent around him. The Leafs lineup this year could be in a state of flux all year this year while kids settle in. Because of that you could see a 15-25-40 year and I don't think that should be seen as a disappointment.

Just remember this....Joe Thornton had 3-4-7 in 55 games in his first year. Sometimes there is an adjustment period. Just sayin'.

- Dollars2Donuts


the fact that you had to go back 19 years says enough. even fail yakupov
put up a .65ppg pace.

Mackinnon 63 pts, EIchel 56 pts, RNH 52 pts..probably better comparables considering they were within the last 5 years, not 2 decades ago.

just sayin'
tomt8391
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Saw Forsberg at the airport, NY
Joined: 06.30.2010

Aug 28 @ 6:57 AM ET
I agree with an Eichel-like season. I just hope the TOR media machine and fans give this kid some time. Watching Eichel last year, there were times he looked absolutely dominant, and other times where he looked like an 18yo.
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