The crappy thing is everyone always remembers the end result ...those Boston games go differently and who knows how many more he could have won
- Redmile247

But it must be understood that it was not just *him* who did not show up in Boston.

Not in the playoffs he wasnt
- VANTEL

I'm actually going to give you the playoffs ...I agree ...he had more wins and his run to the cup was better statistically

But it must be understood that it was not just *him* who did not show up in Boston.
- Beatle_john

Agreed ...but the team played ok ...Tim Thomas played better tho

But it must be understood that it was not just *him* who did not show up in Boston.
- Beatle_john

Ok Honestly Vantel.... Who was better????

Maclean? Smith? Brodeur?
- Beatle_john

Being the best of a bad thing doesn't mean you are good.

My honest opinion of Lu was he took Octobers off, wasn't reliable in big playoff games , and didn't want to be here. You can honour hm if you want , I will pass.

The ring of honour is like being rewarded a gold star at school. For those who would like to see Lu put in there go ahead. I will go take a dump during the ceremony .

The players they really like get their numbers retired or go to the HHOF.

If Beatle John or anyone else want to see Lu get a gold star , have at er.

The ring of honour is like being rewarded a gold star at school. For those who would like to see Lu put in there go ahead. I will go take a dump during the ceremony .

The players they really like get their numbers retired or go to the HHOF.

If Beatle John or anyone else want to see Lu get a gold star , have at er.
- VANTEL

I totally think he should have his number retired. First Goalie Captain in 1/2 a century?

I also think he will go into the HHOF but not first ballot.

And being the best of a bad lot.... COP OUT!!! I call COP OUT!!!!

I totally think he should have his number retired. First Goalie Captain in 1/2 a century?

I also think he will go into the HHOF but not first ballot.

And being the best of a bad lot.... COP OUT!!! I call COP OUT!!!!
- Beatle_john

I've said enough on a subject that doesn't matter to me. Or a person ( Lu) that I don't care about

But it must be understood that it was not just *him* who did not show up in Boston.
- Beatle_john

You shouldn't bother BJ, no matter what really happened it will always be that Luo was single handily responsible for the SC lose, (frank) man he was even responsible for Marchand speed bagging Daniel

You shouldn't bother BJ, no matter what really happened it will always be that Luo was single handily responsible for the SC lose, (frank) man he was even responsible for Marchand speed bagging Daniel
- Makita

Well, as Captain, maybe Lu should have stepped up?

You shouldn't bother BJ, no matter what really happened it will always be that Luo was single handily responsible for the SC lose, (frank) man he was even responsible for Marchand speed bagging Daniel
- Makita

I like Lou, and he gets too much blame for the way the finals played out, but he deserves a lot of it too. It was a team collapse, him included. I also get a kick out of his Twitter persona, I like that self deprecating sense of humour. But he wanted out of Vancouver, very publicly, and so that alone should prevent him for having his jersey retired or his face on the ring of honourish thingy. In the end, he did not want to be a Halibut.

I like Lou, and he gets too much blame for the way the finals played out, but he deserves a lot of it too. It was a team collapse, him included. I also get a kick out of his Twitter persona, I like that self deprecating sense of humour. But he wanted out of Vancouver, very publicly, and so that alone should prevent him for having his jersey retired or his face on the ring of honourish thingy. In the end, he did not want to be a Halibut.
- CubanBuffet

Then he should of avoided flopping on his belly.

Then he should of avoided flopping on his belly.
- A_SteamingLombardi

That's true.

I like Lou, and he gets too much blame for the way the finals played out, but he deserves a lot of it too. It was a team collapse, him included. I also get a kick out of his Twitter persona, I like that self deprecating sense of humour. But he wanted out of Vancouver, very publicly, and so that alone should prevent him for having his jersey retired or his face on the ring of honourish thingy. In the end, he did not want to be a Halibut.
- CubanBuffet

Rumor has it he's the heir apparent to Ron Maclean.

Being the best of a bad thing doesn't mean you are good.

My honest opinion of Lu was he took Octobers off, wasn't reliable in big playoff games , and didn't want to be here. You can honour hm if you want , I will pass.
- VANTEL

Dear Carol,

Thank you for the Lou update, I still expect to one day him in in the Ring of Honour only because onle cannot retire #1.

The other day I was wondering aloud that if and when the day comes that Lou needs to retire due to injury. Why would they the Panthers not put him up on Long Term Injury Reserve and trade his contract back to Vancouver for a mid to late round pick.

1. They get a free pick for a player who will not play again
2. We regain the 800,000 and lose nothing in present cap space due to his Long Term Injury
3. Lou does not even have to move here but stay in Florida and retire nicely.

Sounds like a win/win/win.

The only negative, and I am not sure this even is a negative is that Lou's contract on Long Term Disability may eat up one position at our 50 contract limit but I am not sure those on Long Term even count.

So what say you!
- Beatle_john

I did see you mention this a few days ago, thanks for looping back around.

I think the $800,000 is a relatively small issue. If Lou ends up on LTIR at some point before his contract ends, the Canucks breathe a sigh of relief that they don't end up hit with the cap recapture penalties and Florida will...presumably...use the cap space as they see fit.

The tricky part about cap hits for players on LTIR is that they still have to fit under the cap on the first day of the season, which is where the clever juggling always comes into play. The more we hear that Dave Bolland may not play again, the less of an issue his contract seems like it would have been for the Panthers, but they still chose to give up Lawson Crouse to get it off their books. So maybe they would be amenable to a deal like you suggest.

It does seem like insurance typically takes care of the actual cash payout for most (?) players on LTIR. If Luongo ends up there in a few years, I wonder if the Canucks would still have to pay the $800K and/or absorb that cap hit? I don't know, but it seems like it might get scrubbed at some point?

One thing I liked very much from today's Luongo news is how hard he's fighting to retain his starting job. That stubbornness should mean that he'll never just retire for the sake of retiring. I don't think he'll quit until his body refuses to let him continue, which is good news for the Canucks...I hope...

The ring of honour is like being rewarded a gold star at school. For those who would like to see Lu put in there go ahead. I will go take a dump during the ceremony .

The players they really like get their numbers retired or go to the HHOF.

If Beatle John or anyone else want to see Lu get a gold star , have at er.
- VANTEL

We can be stall buddies because I have no interest either.

Well, as Captain, maybe Lu should have stepped up?
- hillbillydeluxe

I like Lou, and he gets too much blame for the way the finals played out, but he deserves a lot of it too. It was a team collapse, him included. I also get a kick out of his Twitter persona, I like that self deprecating sense of humour. But he wanted out of Vancouver, very publicly, and so that alone should prevent him for having his jersey retired or his face on the ring of honourish thingy. In the end, he did not want to be a Halibut.
- CubanBuffet

I like Lou, and he gets too much blame for the way the finals played out, but he deserves a lot of it too. It was a team collapse, him included. I also get a kick out of his Twitter persona, I like that self deprecating sense of humour. But he wanted out of Vancouver, very publicly, and so that alone should prevent him for having his jersey retired or his face on the ring of honourish thingy. In the end, he did not want to be a Halibut.
- CubanBuffet

Totally agree Mr. Cuban, my observation is that this fan base has only blamed Luongo for game seven when there were several contributing factors that cumulated in the demise of the desired outcome....starting with turn the other cheek in the playoffs.

I certainly don't begrudge the fans their outrage at the outcome but I do take issue with the tunnel vision blame on one single individual when it's a team sport. If no one is preventing the opposition from taking free shots at players or goalies you blame the team, not the individual.
But as you pointed out, he doesn't deserve ring of honour status, but he also doesn't deserve being the scapegoat of that series.

Rumor has it he's the heir apparent to Ron Maclean.
- VanHockeyGuy

That could work.

Totally agree Mr. Cuban, my observation is that this fan base has only blamed Luongo for game seven when there were several contributing factors that cumulated in the demise of the desired outcome....starting with turn the other cheek in the playoffs.

I certainly don't begrudge the fans their outrage at the outcome but I do take issue with the tunnel vision blame on one single individual when it's a team sport. If no one is preventing the opposition from taking free shots at players or goalies you blame the team, not the individual.
But as you pointed out, he doesn't deserve ring of honour status, but he also doesn't deserve being the scapegoat of that series.
- Makita

The problem with Luongo was that when he was off he was way off. You could pretty much write that game off, and you usually knew by ten minute into the first. It happened a lot less than a lot of Vancouver fans seem to remember, but unfortunately it did happen at the worst possible time on more than one occasion. But like I said, coaching and the team in front of him has to own that too.

Also, I prefer Mr. Buffet.

I did see you mention this a few days ago, thanks for looping back around.

I think the $800,000 is a relatively small issue. If Lou ends up on LTIR at some point before his contract ends, the Canucks breathe a sigh of relief that they don't end up hit with the cap recapture penalties and Florida will...presumably...use the cap space as they see fit.

The tricky part about cap hits for players on LTIR is that they still have to fit under the cap on the first day of the season, which is where the clever juggling always comes into play. The more we hear that Dave Bolland may not play again, the less of an issue his contract seems like it would have been for the Panthers, but they still chose to give up Lawson Crouse to get it off their books. So maybe they would be amenable to a deal like you suggest.

It does seem like insurance typically takes care of the actual cash payout for most (?) players on LTIR. If Luongo ends up there in a few years, I wonder if the Canucks would still have to pay the $800K and/or absorb that cap hit? I don't know, but it seems like it might get scrubbed at some point?

One thing I liked very much from today's Luongo news is how hard he's fighting to retain his starting job. That stubbornness should mean that he'll never just retire for the sake of retiring. I don't think he'll quit until his body refuses to let him continue, which is good news for the Canucks...I hope...
- Carol Schram

I remember reading somewhere that if a player does go on to LTIR and remains permanently injured, then the team can go to arbitration or some form of litigation to get out of paying the recapture penalty. Or have it reduced and just pay it out. I'll try to find the article I read a while back.

The problem with Luongo was that when he was off he was way off. You could pretty much write that game off, and you usually knew by ten minute into the first. It happened a lot less than a lot of Vancouver fans seem to remember, but unfortunately it did happen at the worst possible time on more than one occasion. But like I said, coaching and the team in front of him has to own that too.

Also, I prefer Mr. Buffet.
- CubanBuffet

Duly noted, and again Mr. Buffet, I agree on all aspects of your post, I can vividly remember watching him have brain farts on Several occasions. But to read the comments tonight was like stepping back in time and reading the biased thoughts from game 7. Team sport, team meltdown, inept coaching, brain fart goalie, soft team approach, no truculence, no SC.

Duly noted, and again Mr. Buffet, I agree on all aspects of your post, I can vividly remember watching him have brain farts on Several occasions. But to read the comments tonight was like stepping back in time and reading the biased thoughts from game 7. Team sport, team meltdown, inept coaching, brain fart goalie, soft team approach, no truculence, no SC.
- Makita

Okay, now I'm nitpicking, but Señor Buffet is ideal.