kasperrko
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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Bailey should have been given no more than a 3 year deal. I mentioned it at the time. Putting him on waivers and tossing him in the AHL works if he cannot be moved without adding a top prospect. - ses111
Yea nobody will take him and if they do it is a win win. Cause if not then he stays in teh minor. I mean it is quite simple but the Islanders probably feel they have to justify the contract, no matter how bad he is |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Florida also threw in one of their top prospects to get rid of that garbage. So should we throw in Pulock just to get rid of him? And SES i thought you didn't want anymore draft picks. - special_k1074
Pulock may be a bit of an exaggeration when comparing. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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Dude the panthers just traded their best prospect to get rid of a bad contract. You have to give the team a reason to take a bad deal - Dan Petriw
Crouse is far from a great prospect there's lots of question marks with the kid. Asking if someone would be willing to give up MDC or Pulock is a terrible comparison. Also, Bolland isn't even playing at this point while last yr he played 25 games even Bailey is more useful than him in a sense being that he's a body on the ice at the very least. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Crouse is far from a great prospect there's lots of question marks with the kid. Asking if someone would be willing to give up MDC or Pulock is a terrible comparison. Also, Bolland isn't even playing at this point while last yr he played 25 games even Bailey is more useful than him in a sense being that he's a body on the ice at the very least. - Cptmjl
Crouse is likely to be a bottom 6 player and, like you mentioned, Bailey is 10x better than Bolland currently is. Not to mention Bailey's cap hit is over $2M less than Bolland's is. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I want to find someone that loves me as much as you guys hate Bailey |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Dude the panthers just traded their best prospect to get rid of a bad contract. You have to give the team a reason to take a bad deal - Dan Petriw
Crouse is not a better prospect than Hunt or Borgstrom. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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I want to find someone that loves me as much as you guys hate Bailey - Feds91Stammer
I love you that much |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Crouse is likely to be a bottom 6 player and, like you mentioned, Bailey is 10x better than Bolland currently is. Not to mention Bailey's cap hit is over $2M less than Bolland's is. - eichiefs9
Isn't bolland done though? Goes on ir and doesn't take a roster spot? They'd just have to pay his salary which is probably covered by insurance? Bailey would take a roster spot and they'd have to pay him. Dal colle's skating is a question mark and he might not be the stud winger he was drafted to be. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Isn't bolland done though? Goes on ir and doesn't take a roster spot? They'd just have to pay his salary which is probably covered by insurance? Bailey would take a roster spot and they'd have to pay him. Dal colle's skating is a question mark and he might not be the stud winger he was drafted to be. - Isles_since_6
I guess it depends on what ARI is looking for.
Also, I don't think Dal Colle's skating is nearly that big of a deal. It may not be his strongest point, but it's not like every NHL'er needs to skate like Erik Karlsson. This year will be telling, seeing how he can keep up with the speed of the AHL game. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Isn't bolland done though? Goes on ir and doesn't take a roster spot? They'd just have to pay his salary which is probably covered by insurance? Bailey would take a roster spot and they'd have to pay him. Dal colle's skating is a question mark and he might not be the stud winger he was drafted to be. - Isles_since_6
Bolland isn't guaranteed to go on LTIR. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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This is a market setting deal. Teams aren't going to take your bad contract for no reason. You have to give a team a reason to move crap - Dan Petriw
A 5th round pick is nothing even for Bailey. There is a good chance a team will have a better coach than Cappy and get something more out of Bailey. If I'm a team like Arizona I'm taking a chance on Bailey for a 5th round pick. Just a change of teams alone can do something. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Bolland isn't guaranteed to go on LTIR. - Feds91Stammer
Dave Vest @davest4yotes 26m26 minutes ago
#Coyotes GM John Chayka on Dave Bolland: "He's injured for the foreseeable future and that's part of the deal. For us it's a cap hit."
Craig Morgan @craigsmorgan 8m8 minutes ago
Dave Bolland will head to Long Term Injured Reserve after training camp, per source, giving Coyotes additional flexibility. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Dave Vest @davest4yotes 26m26 minutes ago
#Coyotes GM John Chayka on Dave Bolland: "He's injured for the foreseeable future and that's part of the deal. For us it's a cap hit."
Craig Morgan @craigsmorgan 8m8 minutes ago
Dave Bolland will head to Long Term Injured Reserve after training camp, per source, giving Coyotes additional flexibility. - eichiefs9
What is his injury though? I don't think it's something that definitely puts him in LTIR for the rest of the contract. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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What is his injury though? I don't think it's something that definitely puts him in LTIR for the rest of the contract. - Feds91Stammer
No idea, but if multiple people are saying they expect him to be left on LTIR, then I'm sure they found a way to make it work before they parted with 2 good picks. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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No idea, but if multiple people are saying they expect him to be left on LTIR, then I'm sure they found a way to make it work before they parted with 2 good picks. - eichiefs9
Valid point. |
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No idea, but if multiple people are saying they expect him to be left on LTIR, then I'm sure they found a way to make it work before they parted with 2 good picks. - eichiefs9
So essentially a conditional 2nd and 3rd for Crouse then. And Arizona likely plops him in the AHL for the year so it becomes two 3rds. If that's how it pans out then good on Arizona. |
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Isles_since_6
New York Islanders |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 07.13.2009
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Dave Vest @davest4yotes 26m26 minutes ago
#Coyotes GM John Chayka on Dave Bolland: "He's injured for the foreseeable future and that's part of the deal. For us it's a cap hit."
Craig Morgan @craigsmorgan 8m8 minutes ago
Dave Bolland will head to Long Term Injured Reserve after training camp, per source, giving Coyotes additional flexibility. - eichiefs9
Now if we could ditch grabovski’s cap hit and had to throw in dal colle, I would be interested ONLY if we were planning to use that cap space to add another top 6 forward.
If we’re just clearing the space for nothing other than to ditch the contract I wouldn’t bother. We still have enough to sign strome and let barzal play if he makes the team. It only makes sense to give up an asset with a bad contract if you have a plan for that cap space. |
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I love you that much - eichiefs9
If only you had loved your wife half as much she wouldn't have left you. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Now if we could ditch grabovski’s cap hit and had to throw in dal colle, I would be interested ONLY if we were planning to use that cap space to add another top 6 forward.
If we’re just clearing the space for nothing other than to ditch the contract I wouldn’t bother. We still have enough to sign strome and let barzal play if he makes the team. It only makes sense to give up an asset with a bad contract if you have a plan for that cap space. - Isles_since_6
I'm not so sure I would trade Dal Colle to free up some contract space. He may have been leapfrogged on our prospect depth chart, but there's no reason to give up on him like that. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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If only you had loved your wife half as much she wouldn't have left you. - Wildschwein
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Ur Not Me
New York Islanders |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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This is a market setting deal. Teams aren't going to take your bad contract for no reason. You have to give a team a reason to move crap - Dan Petriw
Bailey has more value than Bolland bc of contract and health, it really wouldnt take an A+ prospect to move Bailey..... |
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Ur Not Me
New York Islanders |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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What is his injury though? I don't think it's something that definitely puts him in LTIR for the rest of the contract. - Feds91Stammer
He's a piece of glass, constantly broken.... |
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Ur Not Me
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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So essentially a conditional 2nd and 3rd for Crouse then. And Arizona likely plops him in the AHL for the year so it becomes two 3rds. If that's how it pans out then good on Arizona. - Wildschwein
2 3rd's pick if Crouse doesnt play 1 NHL game, I would make sure he doesnt |
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Ur Not Me
New York Islanders |
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Location: Long Island, NY Joined: 11.30.2008
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Now if we could ditch grabovski’s cap hit and had to throw in dal colle, I would be interested ONLY if we were planning to use that cap space to add another top 6 forward.
If we’re just clearing the space for nothing other than to ditch the contract I wouldn’t bother. We still have enough to sign strome and let barzal play if he makes the team. It only makes sense to give up an asset with a bad contract if you have a plan for that cap space. - Isles_since_6
U still expecting a move before season starts?? Hope u are bc I'm ready for u |
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Dan Petriw
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 12.03.2006
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Bailey has more value than Bolland bc of contract and health, it really wouldnt take an A+ prospect to move Bailey..... - Ur Not Me
They didn't trade for Bolland to put him on the roster. They traded for his contract |
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