38th??? Wasn't he the "most NHL-ready" player outside of McDavid and Eichel?
- jmatchett383

"NHL ready" basically meant he could slide onto your 4th line

Yeah but the Coyotes can take the chance. Also it adds size to a team that seems to lack it a little with their star guys like Domi and DuClair.

If he can develop into a Lucic type for them its a solid deal for them
- J35Bacher

It's a fine risk to take. I just think his true value is inflated by his draft position. The Flyers probably have at least 5-7 prospects I'd rank above him

This has to be one of the higher prices to be paid in terms of prospects for a cap dump. 2nd and 3rd should be good picks though
- YuenglingJagr

Is it though.

Crouse is shinny and nice and new but maybe the panthers see something less than that. Maybe they only see a 4th line potential in him. But right now the supposed potential is enough to make a team interested in him where they take on money to get him.

And for that they were able to unload a contract that was tying them up in bolland.

As much as I wish and hope Laughton shows more this season, I am still not convinced there is much more to his game. As guys like Cousins are starting to maybe pass him, I almost wish the Flyers could use him and move MacDonalds deal.

I know people say it is bad asset management. But what if that asset isn't what you think it is. In Crouse the unknown is what keeps his value high. As Laughton plays more, his value could start to slip more and more.

Not that Hextall is aware of every pending deal but this deal in retirn for the Coyotes would help the Flyers. Young depth and potenial on the left side and a healthy Bolland on the third line.
- roenick97

Bolland is being paid $5.5M per year for the next 3 years. He's always hurt and isn't productive even when healthy.

He's basically the exact same player as Umberger when the Flyers re-acquired him except he's $1M more per year.

Coyotes may just stick him on IR and hope to collect insurance

It's a fine risk to take. I just think his true value is inflated by his draft position. The Flyers probably have at least 5-7 prospects I'd rank above him
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah, I'd slot Crouse in at around #7.

"NHL ready" basically meant he could slide onto your 4th line
- PhillySportsGuy

So, basically, Tom Wilson?

If that's a fair deal for both sides, then what a waste of a pick by Florida.

IMHO!!

If that's a fair deal for both sides, then what a waste of a pick by Florida.

IMHO!!
- aightwebang17

Not really.

Florida has a lot of good young players. They just had others that developed better and wanted to commit too.

They were still able to use Crouse to move a bad contract and still brought back 2 picks.

In the end it helped Florida do what they wanted. They now have money they can commit to others or open a spot for another player to fill Bollands spot.

So, basically, Tom Wilson?
- jmatchett383

Different type of player, but likely a similar role

If that's a fair deal for both sides, then what a waste of a pick by Florida.

IMHO!!
- aightwebang17

It was not a good pick, but I believe it was the previous regime who picked him

Not really.

Florida has a lot of good young players. They just had others that developed better and wanted to commit too.

They were still able to use Crouse to move a bad contract and still brought back 2 picks.

In the end it helped Florida do what they wanted. They now have money they can commit to others or open a spot for another player to fill Bollands spot.
- J35Bacher

Crouse is one year removed from being a top-half first round pick. Imagine the Flyers trading Sanheim or Provorov to move AMac for 2 picks. People on here would be pissed.

It was not a good pick, but I believe it was the previous regime who picked him
- PhillySportsGuy

It was the 2015 draft, when did they change regimes?

Crouse is one year removed from being a top-half first round pick. Imagine the Flyers trading Sanheim or Provorov to move AMac for 2 picks. People on here would be pissed.
- jmatchett383

I understand.

but if the flyers had a bunch of other young plays already contributing it makes it easier. Also I think with Crouse being a forward it makes it a little easier to swallow.

With Sanheim and Provorov being defenseman I think there is a different value. But I do understand.

It was the 2015 draft, when did they change regimes?
- aightwebang17

They made changes just before this offseason I believe. Tallon got kicked upstairs. Going with a more analytical approach.

http://www.todaysslapshot...ffice-changes-misbranded/

Different type of player, but likely a similar role
- PhillySportsGuy

So at 22, Tom Wilson can't become more of a contributor to the caps?

They made changes just before this offseason I believe. Tallon got kicked upstairs. Going with a more analytical approach.

http://www.todaysslapshot...ffice-changes-misbranded/
- PhillySportsGuy

Yeah.

It was the reason they moved Gudbranson for McCann.

So at 22, Tom Wilson can't become more of a contributor to the caps?
- J35Bacher

Doubtful. He hasn't really made any strides since joining the NHL. If the Caps want to play him in the top 6 with those elite forwards, he'll likely score more, but playing him those types of minutes will just make the team worse.

The Caps would be better off with him in the press box than on the ice.

I understand.

but if the flyers had a bunch of other young plays already contributing it makes it easier. Also I think with Crouse being a forward it makes it a little easier to swallow.

With Sanheim and Provorov being defenseman I think there is a different value. But I do understand.
- J35Bacher

Okay, let's use a forward who was actually in the back-end of the draft that year.

Konecny + AMac for a 2nd/3rd.

Does that make it look appealing to you? Granted, the Panthers have more youth currently contributing, but it still seems like an incredibly high price, although I never was high on Crouse

So at 22, Tom Wilson can't become more of a contributor to the caps?
- J35Bacher

Tom Wilson is likely expansion fodder.

Okay, let's use a forward who was actually in the back-end of the draft that year.

Konecny + AMac for a 2nd/3rd.

Does that make it look appealing to you? Granted, the Panthers have more youth currently contributing, but it still seems like an incredibly high price, although I never was high on Crouse
- jmatchett383

For me the youth contributing already played a huge role into it.

But I do understand your point.

Tom Wilson is likely expansion fodder.
- jmatchett383

So then I shouldn't expect more from Laughton than. He's 22.

So then I shouldn't expect more from Laughton than. He's 22.
- J35Bacher

Laughton also topped 60 points in the OHL and has represented Canada at the WJC. He's also had success at the AHL level and has shown more pound-for-pound sill than Wilson thus far. I know you don't like him, though. But were I a betting man on which player will grow into an offensive contributor in a top-9 role, my money's on Laughton.

Tom Wilson is likely expansion fodder.
- jmatchett383

I think they'll protect him over Johansson.