obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Where does DD slot in? Unless he gets traded, whether you like it or not, he's gunna be in the lineup. - GstrangWondah
I think he'll spend some significant time in the press box this season, let's face he isn't getting traded, nobody wants him or that contract |
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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He belongs as the third line centre.
Until Therrien puts him on the first line after 10 games of course. - Scabeh
He has nothing to offer a 3rd line and would only take a spot away from McCarron |
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stinger67
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Location: QC Joined: 07.03.2008
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weber is done, should retire any moment - Symba007
Well...as seen at his last visit at the Habs training facility, seems age has not put a damper on his spirit
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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He has nothing to offer a 3rd line and would only take a spot away from McCarron - obie
Look, I can't wait to unload Desharnais either but DD is still a more proven NHLer than McCarron. By far.
He was fine on the third line last year until everything fell apart.
If somehow McCarron's level of play makes it obvious he's the best man for the job, so be it. It's a reach to think placing him there would make the Habs better than having Desharnais. |
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Look, I can't wait to unload Desharnais either but DD is still a more proven NHLer than McCarron. By far.
He was fine on the third line last year until everything fell apart.
If somehow McCarron's level of play makes it obvious he's the best man for the job, so be it. It's a reach to think placing him there would make the Habs better than having Desharnais. - Scabeh
I think McCarron has more of a skill set that suits a 3rd line more than DD |
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Symba007
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Well...as seen at his last visit at the Habs training facility, seems age has not put a damper on his spirit
- stinger67
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Lucas Neilson
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Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON Joined: 06.26.2015
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another great blog Jenn |
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I think McCarron has more of a skill set that suits a 3rd line more than DD - obie
If you want your third line to be a hard hitting line that scores less, sure. |
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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If you want your third line to be a hard hitting line that scores less, sure. - Scabeh
Shaw, Carr and McCarron would contribute offensively just fine... Desharnais is easy for opponents to play against and that's what bothers me the most about him |
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Shaw, Carr and McCarron would contribute offensively just fine... Desharnais is easy for opponents to play against and that's what bothers me the most about him - obie
idk about the offensive contribution there without a playmaker such as DD, which is why I'd have him in there over Carr on the LW (I think Shaw and Carr too similar styles of players and should be spread out among the line-up). Nevertheless, even if they don't contribute much offensively, that line of Shaw, Carr and McCarron would still be good in that they'd drive opponents nuts I think. |
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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idk about the offensive contribution there without a playmaker such as DD, which is why I'd have him in there over Carr on the LW (I think Shaw and Carr too similar styles of players and should be spread out among the line-up). Nevertheless, even if they don't contribute much offensively, that line of Shaw, Carr and McCarron would still be good in that they'd drive opponents nuts I think. - GstrangWondah
And thats what you want from a 3rd line... there's isnt much playmaking required on the goals Shaw and Carr score, mostly garbage goals from the top of the crease, rebounds and tip ins! McCarron would be more useful creating room for them than Desharnais would be setting them up for goals.... just my opinion, as always |
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And thats what you want from a 3rd line... there's isnt much playmaking required on the goals Shaw and Carr score, mostly garbage goals from the top of the crease, rebounds and tip ins! McCarron would be more useful creating room for them than Desharnais would be setting them up for goals.... just my opinion, as always - obie
Yea, don't get me wrong, I think it's a good opinion/line and for sure McCarron will create room for whoever he plays with (I see him as our 3rd C going forward for sure)... I just think that having two wingers who essentially do the same thing isn't as good as having a guy who can make a play. |
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Yea, don't get me wrong, I think it's a good opinion/line and for sure McCarron will create room for whoever he plays with (I see him as our 3rd C going forward for sure)... I just think that having two wingers who essentially do the same thing isn't as good as having a guy who can make a play. - GstrangWondah
I don't see a problem with having a 3rd line with 2 guys that's can score 15-20 and crash the net with authority on both wings, to each his own I guess |
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I don't see a problem with having a 3rd line with 2 guys that's can score 15-20 and crash the net with authority on both wings, to each his own I guess - obie
Thats a very optimistic view of how many goals a Carr-McCarron-Shaw line would produce.
But I guess it's an opinion like any other. |
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Thats a very optimistic view of how many goals a Carr-McCarron-Shaw line would produce.
But I guess it's an opinion like any other. - Scabeh
You think 15-20 is being very optimistic for Shaw and Carr? |
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Thats a very optimistic view of how many goals a Carr-McCarron-Shaw line would produce.
But I guess it's an opinion like any other. - Scabeh
I don't think it's far fetched for Carr and Shaw to each put up 15-20 goals, but I agree that it's unlikely to happen with them together with McCarron... maybe if DD centers the line, but I'd personally rather have McCarron there. |
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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You think 15-20 is being very optimistic for Shaw and Carr? - obie
If they're on the same line with McCarron? Yes. |
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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If they're on the same line with McCarron? Yes. - Scabeh
So you think Carr and Shaw would fail to hit 10 goals each playing with McCarron? |
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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So you think Carr and Shaw would fail to hit 10 goals each playing with McCarron? - obie
I thought we were talking about 15-20? |
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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I thought we were talking about 15-20? - Scabeh
Right but if 15-20 is being VERY optimistic than your expectations must but at around 6-9... otherwise you're arguing for the sake or argument |
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Symba007
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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No way Therrien doesn't play DD as the center of the 3rd line or as a winger in the top 6. |
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Scabeh
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Right but if 15-20 is being VERY optimistic than your expectations must but at around 6-9... otherwise you're arguing for the sake or argument - obie
That's pure speculation on your part.
Implying they could score 15-20 goals means they could score 20, which is, without a shadow of a doubt, very optimistic, yes.
Now would I expect them to score 10 goals each? Yes, that sounds more reasonable. Hell maybe they'd score a little more than that.
What I am quite certain however, is that they'd score more goals/ be more effective playing with a good passer like Desharnais than with McCarron who had a whooping 1 goal and 1 assist in 20 games last year.
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obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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That's pure speculation on your part.
Implying they could score 15-20 goals means they could score 20, which is, without a shadow of a doubt, very optimistic, yes.
Now would I expect them to score 10 goals each? Yes, that sounds more reasonable. Hell maybe they'd score a little more than that.
What I am quite certain however, is that they'd score more goals/ be more effective playing with a good passer like Desharnais than with McCarron who had a whooping 1 goal and 1 assist in 20 games last year. - Scabeh
Shaw and Carr create their own offense with great net front presence... I don't see Desharnais as a good playmaker like most do, I see him as the guy who rode shotgun and piled up a few assists playing with Pacioretty...
And he tends to get pushed around quite easily, McCarron does not... |
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No way Therrien doesn't play DD as the center of the 3rd line or as a winger in the top 6. - Symba007
ok |
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Shaw and Carr create their own offense with great net front presence... I don't see Desharnais as a good playmaker like most do, I see him as the guy who rode shotgun and piled up a few assists playing with Pacioretty...
And he tends to get pushed around quite easily, McCarron does not... - obie
Somebody's gotta get that puck to the front of the net though...
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