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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 23 @ 2:25 PM ET

- nvrsoft

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
Rel indicates on ice impacts versus the player's teams average.

CF%: Corsi For Percentage; The percentage of all shots that are taken by a team (CF/(CF + CA))

SCF%: Scoring Chances For Percentage; The percentage of all Scoring Chances that are taken by a team (SCF/(SCF + SCA))

xGF%: Expected Goals For Percentage; The percentage of all expected goals that are scored by a team (xGF/(xGF + xGA))

- Feds91Stammer


Feds. I like you buddy.... but I have absolutely no interest in this.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
Doughty had a +21 goal differential, Karlsson had a +15 goal differential while on the ice.

Doughty pretty much lets goals in at a similar rate, while playing for the better team, with a better goalie.

- j.boyd919


Doughty was a +24 last year... Karlsson was a -2
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:25 PM ET

- DDM-Coga


GstrangWondah
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.22.2015

Aug 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
Why are you all comparing Galchenyuk and Hoffman instead of, I dunno, dozens of other players that make way more sense as comparables?
- BINGO!


It started off as a Stone > Hoffman > Galchenyuk comment.

What's wrong with talking about it? Everyone seems to be quite jolly about the whole thing.

- Scabeh


Not that there's anything wrong with it, but I agree with bingo that there's better comparables with respect to age and position (despite the hero charts both listing their "designated roles" as "2nd line scoring wingers"). Although it may be fun, I think it's a bit silly to be generally saying "this winger" > "this center"... that said....

Galchenyuk > Zibanejad > Pageau > DD
Pacioretty > Hoffman
Stone > Gallagher

this is fun
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 23 @ 2:26 PM ET
Another great argument...


- Feds91Stammer



1 played 30 mins/game 1 played 3 mins/game

you can do better I hope
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
Victor Hedman
- One_Eyed_Sweede

This guy gets it
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
Doughty was a +24 last year... Karlsson was a -2
- laughs2907


At the end of the 2009–10 season, Jeff Schultz led the NHL in the plus-minus statistical category with a +50 rating.

Now that's a player!

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
He posted better GF/60 than Karlsson (2.75ish Vs. 2.65ish) and FAR better GA/60 (1.8ish Vs. 2.7ish) and improved on his team's numbers substantially more than either Karlsson or Doughty did. All the while he produced around 50 points, dominates possession-wise, and has been a key cog in a very successful team of late. He even beat Doughty in those aforementioned numbers (2.1 GF/60 and 1.8 GA/60).
- MaximumBone

Karlsson had 70 more blocked shots, 51 more takeaways, and his Rel impact of CA and CF as well as scoring chances for and against was significantly higher than Doughty's.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
Doughty was a +24 last year... Karlsson was a -2
- laughs2907


doughty also has better hair...fact
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 23 @ 2:27 PM ET
Not that there's anything wrong with it, but I agree with bingo that there's better comparables with respect to age and position (despite the hero charts both listing their "designated roles" as "2nd line scoring wingers"). Although it may be fun, I think it's a bit silly to be generally saying "this winger" > "this center"... that said....

Galchenyuk > Zibanejad > Pageau > DD
Pacioretty > Hoffman
Stone > Gallagher

this is fun

- GstrangWondah


i only like to compare backup goalies to shutdown centers
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Doughty was a +24 last year... Karlsson was a -2
- laughs2907


I prefer total goal differential, as opposed to the flawed stat that is +/-
zipfel
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 04.24.2016

Aug 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
If I had to bet, there are little to no chance he trades McCarron in a trade where the best piece coming back is Wideman.

Wideman is not the kind of player we need at all, the Habs need a top 6 scorer and wouldn't trade one of their best 4 prospects for an aging defenseman who wouldn't be an upgrade on anyone in our top 4 already.

This, of course, being my opinion on the matter.

- Scabeh



Haha yea you're right. But a guy can hope can't he
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Aug 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Doesn't even matter anyway... Adam Larsson will soon be known as the undisputed best d-man in the league
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
are you going to post a picture of every other person on that team that helped them win the cup?
- bulet13


No probably just the guys who played 25-30 mins/game I would think
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Haha yea you're right. But a guy can hope can't he
- zipfel


GstrangWondah
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.22.2015

Aug 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
i only like to compare backup goalies to shutdown centers
- bulet13

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:28 PM ET
Karlsson had 70 more blocked shots, 51 more takeaways, and his Rel impact of CA and CF as well as scoring chances for and against was significantly higher than Doughty's.
- Feds91Stammer

That post was about Hedman.
One_Eyed_Sweede
Boston Bruins
Location: Angry One Eyed Swede, MA
Joined: 07.01.2013

Aug 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
Doesn't even matter anyway... Adam Larsson will soon be known as the undisputed best d-man in the league
- laughs2907


For what it's worth, I think he's going to be a good player for the Oilers.

The price was overwhelmingly steep but he's going to help the team.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:29 PM ET
1 played 30 mins/game 1 played 3 mins/game

you can do better I hope

- Garnie

I fight fire with fire.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
No probably just the guys who played 25-30 mins/game I would think
- Garnie


yes cause ice time is indicative of performance all the time. Quick played 58-60 minutes a game so i guess he is twice as good as doughty. and maybe when you realize there are 12 forwards and only 6 defensemen it makes more sense that defenseman play more minutes, but hey i guess some schools just dont teach math. and some aren't born with logic
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
That post was about Hedman.
- MaximumBone

Didn't see his name in your comment at all. I stand by my post.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
Doesn't even matter anyway... Adam Larsson will soon be known as the undisputed best d-man in the league
- laughs2907


already an elite poopter in this league
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 23 @ 2:30 PM ET
I fight fire with fire.
- Feds91Stammer

Wouldn't that just make the original fire worse?
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