Are you sure your name isn't Feds91TANNER?
- Scabeh

https://public.tableau.co...C9748R?:display_count=yes

https://public.tableau.co...BTF95C?:display_count=yes

They are fairly comparable but when you consider Galchenyuk had a 10 goal month in March because he shot more than double his career shooting %, I prefer Hoffman.

Stone > Hoffman > Galchenyuk
- Feds91Stammer

Switch Hoffman and Galchenyuk and we can agree. But expect Galchenyuk to break out this year. A 22 years old skilled forward coming off a 30 goals campaign and playing for a big contract. I can make a bet with you, my assumption, he gets at least 30 goals and 65 pts.

I will not be making any comment until i receive confirmation from Bruiniak
- BINGO!

Stop the nonsense. Its a done deal.

https://public.tableau.com/shared/Y5BC9748R?:display_count=yes

https://public.tableau.co...BTF95C?:display_count=yes

They are fairly comparable but when you consider Galchenyuk had a 10 goal month in March because he shot more than double his career shooting %, I prefer Hoffman.
- Feds91Stammer

I'm not going to look at your charts, because I don't care about them. I'd rather watch a player and tell you if I like him better or not. Is it a flawed way to evaluate players? Perhaps, but so is watching charts and thinking they're telling you the whole story.

This being said both are good player, but I'd take Galchenyuk before Hoffman any day of the week.

its cause of faceoffs
- bulet13

When they've already got Bergeron, Toews, Thornton, Crosby, Getzlaf, Giroux, Carter, Duchene, Tavares, Seguin, and Stamkos all as natural Cs, that loses some merit. Seven or eight of those guys are currently dominant on the dot; almost all of them have been at some point.

I will not be making any comment until i receive confirmation from Bruiniak
- BINGO!

"Something happened"

https://public.tableau.com/shared/Y5BC9748R?:display_count=yes

https://public.tableau.co...BTF95C?:display_count=yes

They are fairly comparable but when you consider Galchenyuk had a 10 goal month in March because he shot more than double his career shooting %, I prefer Hoffman.
- Feds91Stammer

Every sniper gets hot and cold during the season, that's just a silly argument.

I'm not going to look at your charts, because I don't care about them. I'd rather watch a player and tell you if I like him better or not. Is it a flawed way to evaluate players? Perhaps, but so is watching charts and thinking they're telling you the whole story.

This being said both are good player, but I'd take Galchenyuk before Hoffman any day of the week.
- Scabeh

Yes it is flawed to ignore statistical analysis. Just like it is flawed to assume because someone values the data they do not watch the games.

What is it that sets Galchenyuk apart for you?

When they've already got Bergeron, Toews, Thornton, Crosby, Getzlaf, Giroux, Carter, Duchene, Tavares, Seguin, and Stamkos all as natural Cs, that loses some merit. Seven or eight of those guys are currently dominant on the dot; almost all of them have been at some point.
- MaximumBone

all this means is that Team Canada's management has been listening to me

Stone > Hoffman > Galchenyuk
- Feds91Stammer

Hoffman vs Galchenyuk @ 22 years old :

http://public.tableau.com...G69FW2?:display_count=yes

Stop the nonsense. Its a done deal.
- mdw7413

2 days ago at noon

I'm not going to look at your charts, because I don't care about them. I'd rather watch a player and tell you if I like him better or not. Is it a flawed way to evaluate players? Perhaps, but so is watching charts and thinking they're telling you the whole story.

This being said both are good player, but I'd take Galchenyuk before Hoffman any day of the week.
- Scabeh

And this is why you are wrong, because you discredit statistics and data. Watching a player and evaluating data > Watching a player and being willfully ignorant of data.

Hoffman vs Galchenyuk @ 22 years old :

http://public.tableau.com...G69FW2?:display_count=yes
- nvrsoft

yes here he is I was waiting for you babe

I'm not going to look at your charts, because I don't care about them. I'd rather watch a player and tell you if I like him better or not. Is it a flawed way to evaluate players? Perhaps, but so is watching charts and thinking they're telling you the whole story.

This being said both are good player, but I'd take Galchenyuk before Hoffman any day of the week.
- Scabeh

Why is it hard to consider that some people actually do both? If you don't use every method of evaluation available to you, then you're actively choosing not to do your best. If that's your choice and you own it then great, but that's not often the case.

Hoffman vs Galchenyuk @ 22 years old :

http://public.tableau.com...G69FW2?:display_count=yes
- nvrsoft

great another sjw with a hero chart............

Every sniper gets hot and cold during the season, that's just a silly argument.
- Habsody

He shot almost 30% for an entire month even though his career average is 13%. It would be silly to ignore that.

What was your source previously spot on about? I'm struggling to remember a single Montreal (or really any other team) rumor you had correct.

Yes it is flawed to ignore statistical analysis. Just like it is flawed to assume because someone values the data they do not watch the games.

What is it that sets Galchenyuk apart for you?
- Feds91Stammer

To me, It's his overall skillset, the guy has the size, the speed, he can switch gears, smooth skating, a great shot... he has it all.... which makes his upside more interesting than a guy like Hoffman, who, in my opinion, won't improve much on what we are seeing today.

Hoffman is 26 years old and entering his prime years, he's a good player but Galchenyuk is already better than him at 22.

Hoffman vs Galchenyuk @ 22 years old :

http://public.tableau.com...G69FW2?:display_count=yes
- nvrsoft

http://public.tableau.com...DY5DK4H?:display_count=no

This is more relevant, given its based on last season and how both players are in the present. Nice strawman argument though, that was pretty awful.

Hoffman vs Galchenyuk @ 22 years old :

http://public.tableau.com...G69FW2?:display_count=yes
- nvrsoft

Too bad we are in year 2016 and we aren't talking about career projection or regression.

yes here he is I was waiting for you babe
- bulet13

Your account is not deleted yet?

Why is it hard to consider that some people actually do both? If you don't use every method of evaluation available to you, then you're actively choosing not to do your best. If that's your choice and you own it then great, but that's not often the case.
- MaximumBone

You're right, someone can do both. And you're right, that would be the best way to analyse a player.

But someone giving me a chart without any added information to justify his opinion... it's hard for me to conclude to anything else than "he has his charts and that's it".

And hey, watching hockey is not my job, it's something I like and so is talking about it.

Too bad we are in year 2016 and we aren't talking about career projection or regression.
- Feds91Stammer

I am not talking about career projection or regression, I am just showing you the charts for both players at the same age

Too bad we are in year 2016 and we aren't talking about career projection or regression.
- Feds91Stammer

If that's the case though, you don't need a whole lot of data to come to the conclusion that they had very similar years no?

I am not talking about career projection or regression, I am just showing you the charts for both players at the same age
- nvrsoft

oh. so. what was the point?