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underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Aug 21 @ 7:30 PM ET
So revised line up:

Notes:
1. Marner needs a finisher and when I try to compare playing styles to his last season London line mates, I really think this should work.
2. Babcock said Matthews, Nylander.
3. Need to play out some contracts on some vets but waiting to come up in case of injury or trades are, and in this order: Sosh, Leivo, Hyman.
4. I think we have to roll four lines that lean towards scoring, not so much grinding since we don't have those types of players. So I believe ice time will be closer than normal for all four lines. Depending on who we are playing and who is on their game any given night this could work out really well.


JVR, Bozak, Marner
Komarov, Kadri, Brown
Martin, Matthews, Nylander
Michalek, Laich, Lupul

After TDD,

JVR, Kadri, Marner
Komarov, Matthews, Sosh
Martin, Nylander, Brown
Leivo, Laich, Hyman
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 7:39 PM ET
Brown and marner better . Why these guys and not those two?
- burn

I think they are Babcock type players. I think they get first dibs to lose a job. They are tweeners as in older rookies and I think they'll want to see exactly what they have in them.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 7:43 PM ET
.500 ? really?
- golfingsince

No. Not really
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 7:46 PM ET
They are all ready. They were all ready last year except for Marner. But I think it's obvious he is ready.

And about what you said about Babcock not wanting to have 6 rookies at once. Well in 2013-14 he deployed Tatar Nyquist Jurco Dekyser Glendenning and many many more all at once.

- Santo_44

While I understand you point, Tatat had 4 years in the AHL, Nyqvist had 3 (I think) and Jurco and Glendenning had 2 (again I believe, too lazy to look it up).

Hey I'd love to see all the kids in and the likes of Michalek and Greening, Laich kicked out. I just do not see this management group doing that
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 21 @ 7:58 PM ET
I think they are Babcock type players. I think they get first dibs to lose a job. They are tweeners as in older rookies and I think they'll want to see exactly what they have in them.
- walshyleafsfan



Brown and Marner as well. They are both better, work hard, more skilled 200ft players.

I think if it comes down to those guys and brown, then brown makes it. There'd have to be something major for him not to make it, like brown totally flopping or getting injured.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 21 @ 8:01 PM ET
While I understand you point, Tatat had 4 years in the AHL, Nyqvist had 3 (I think) and Jurco and Glendenning had 2 (again I believe, too lazy to look it up).

Hey I'd love to see all the kids in and the likes of Michalek and Greening, Laich kicked out. I just do not see this management group doing that

- walshyleafsfan



Also different situation in old Detroit era with Babcock.....they weren't rebuilding. Hard to compare the two.


Edit: in 02-03 in Anaheim he had 7 rookies play more than 25games. 03-04 he had 4.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 21 @ 8:30 PM ET
You think Marner goes back to the O? It won't help him. That's like sending Vesey back to the NCAA and have him dominate, yet again, only as a 24 year old.


Seriously though, what other options are there for Marner? He's not going to learn a single thing in the O that he doesn't already kn-O. He'd learn more with just practising with the Leafs and watching half the games in the press box.

- weirdoh


my guess is they give him his 9 games and decide from there

i dont disagree with anything you are saying but the mantra of the new management is team before player

so if he gets outplayed in camp he goes back down. he's got a great chance to make the team but its not guaranteed
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 21 @ 8:34 PM ET
my guess is they give him his 9 games and decide from there

i dont disagree with anything you are saying but the mantra of the new management is team before player

so if he gets outplayed in camp he goes back down. he's got a great chance to make the team but its not guaranteed

- Dozzer



Agreed.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 21 @ 8:36 PM ET
Agreed.
- burn



You were supposed to disagree on principle!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 21 @ 8:37 PM ET
Brown and Marner as well. They are both better, work hard, more skilled 200ft players.

I think if it comes down to those guys and brown, then brown makes it. There'd have to be something major for him not to make it, like brown totally flopping or getting injured.

- burn


my guess is the lineup will look something like this barring trades

JVR Kadri Komarov
Michalek Bozak Marner/Brown
Lupul Matthews Nylander
Greening Laich Martin
13th/14th: Brown/Marner - Holland

Rielly Marincin
Gardiner Zaitsev
Polak Hunwick
7th: Corrado

Andersen
?
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 21 @ 8:38 PM ET
Brown and Marner as well. They are both better, work hard, more skilled 200ft players.

I think if it comes down to those guys and brown, then brown makes it. There'd have to be something major for him not to make it, like brown totally flopping or getting injured.

- burn

Plus I think Marner is a higher priority prospect so they would probably rather do what's best for him over a guy like Hyman you would think not well Marner is ready but so is Hyman and he's older so maybe we should keep Hyman up..
figgs1979
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Welland, ON
Joined: 04.23.2016

Aug 21 @ 8:40 PM ET
So revised line up:
T
Notes:
1. Marner needs a finisher and when I try to compare playing styles to his last season London line mates, I really think this should work.
2. Babcock said Matthews, Nylander.
3. Need to play out some contracts on some vets but waiting to come up in case of injury or trades are, and in this order: Sosh, Leivo, Hyman.
4. I think we have to roll four lines that lean towards scoring, not so much grinding since we don't have those types of players. So I believe ice time will be closer than normal for all four lines. Depending on who we are playing and who is on their game any given night this could work out really well.


JVR, Bozak, Marner
Komarov, Kadri, Brown
Martin, Matthews, Nylander
Michalek, Laich, Lupul

After TDD,

JVR, Kadri, Marner
Komarov, Matthews, Sosh
Martin, Nylander, Brown
Leivo, Laich, Hyman

- underhill14


Think Martin stays close to marner! Just to insulate him better
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 21 @ 8:42 PM ET
You were supposed to disagree on principle!
- Steven_Seagull

Right... who is this guy, and where is the real Burn?!?!?







lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 21 @ 8:42 PM ET
Think Martin stays close to marner! Just to insulate him better
- figgs1979


...from forming a capable line?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 21 @ 8:43 PM ET
You were supposed to disagree on principle!
- Steven_Seagull


if you want to disagree then disagree yourself and stop cowering behind another poster like a frightened lil kitty
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 21 @ 8:44 PM ET
Right... who is this guy, and where is the real Burn?!?!?








- lumlums



Hmm...if the new burn isn't going to argue over everything then I'm fine with the change.


Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 21 @ 8:45 PM ET
if you want to disagree then disagree yourself and stop cowering behind another poster like a frightened lil kitty
- Dozzer



...meow meow, female dog.














Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 21 @ 8:45 PM ET
Hmm...if the new burn isn't going to argue over everything then I'm fine with the change.



- Steven_Seagull


in fairness to burn you guys do say some pretty stupid poop
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 21 @ 8:45 PM ET
...meow meow, female dog.






- Steven_Seagull


Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 21 @ 8:47 PM ET
in fairness to burn you guys do say some pretty stupid poop
- Dozzer



I never have, but I get what you're saying.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 21 @ 8:48 PM ET
in fairness to burn you guys do say some pretty stupid poop
- Dozzer


Not me, every word out of my mouth or typed by my fingers is at the very least a chance for everybody else here to become a better person...








Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 21 @ 8:49 PM ET
Not me, every word out of my mouth or typed by my fingers is at the very least a chance for everybody else here to become a better person...



- lumlums


pffft... you guys are on par with me

so yeah.... stupid

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 21 @ 8:49 PM ET
if you want to disagree then disagree yourself and stop cowering behind another poster like a frightened lil kitty
- Dozzer


So, any word on who the new new burn is? I feel like that's the real life mystery here
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Aug 21 @ 8:52 PM ET
I never have, but I get what you're saying.
- Steven_Seagull


I'm going to PVR it, masturbate, nap, repeat. For weeks!
- Steven_Seagull


Thursday Aug 18 at 8:46pm
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Aug 21 @ 8:52 PM ET
Not me, every word out of my mouth or typed by my fingers is at the very least a chance for everybody else here to become a better person...




- lumlums



I completely agree. I do it all the time after I read one of your thought provoking posts, I say to myself, "[insert name], if this monocle wearing jackass can say something so stupid, and not be embarrassed, then so can you."

True story.
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