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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 12:55 PM ET
Ya. But didn't you dump Gaustad in that deal too?
- mlindsay

Stafford
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
Am I the only one who thinks we should go after Pirri? With what has gone down with him recently, I'm betting he'd be a cheap option for a 1 year deal (giving kids one more year to develop) and he could help round out the bottom 6.
- Cup Crazy '07

Bump Larsson for fourth line duties? Not sure that makes sense.
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 20 @ 12:58 PM ET
Stafford
- sbroads24

Right...
so... evens out the trade a bit by getting him off the books.
Best player in the trade was Kane, then Myers, then Stafford and Bogo.
Unfortunately it's the off ice crap that makes it look like a big Jet win in the trade.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 1:00 PM ET
Bump Larsson for fourth line duties? Not sure that makes sense.
- mlindsay


No, I think you start Pirri there, and when there is an inevitable injury, you move him up the line-up as needed. He's a vet, he knows the score, so you sign him on a 1 year deal (maybe I'm naive, but it seems he's fallen out of favor for whatever readon) and have him be your rover so to speak.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:02 PM ET
Right...
so... evens out the trade a bit by getting him off the books.
Best player in the trade was Kane, then Myers, then Stafford and Bogo.
Unfortunately it's the off ice crap that makes it look like a big Jet win in the trade.

- mlindsay

Stafford was a pending UFA. Probably would have got the token 2nd rounder at the TDL.

IMO value wise Myers=Kane

25th overall, Armia, Lemiuex, Stafford >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bogo
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 20 @ 1:03 PM ET
No, I think you start Pirri there, and when there is an inevitable injury, you move him up the line-up as needed. He's a vet, he knows the score, so you sign him on a 1 year deal (maybe I'm naive, but it seems he's fallen out of favor for whatever readon) and have him be your rover so to speak.
- Cup Crazy '07

Perhaps, but I think if there are 4 guys that are deemed ahead of him on the depth chart he looks elsewhere.
I could be wrong, but I think someone has a 3rd or fourth line assignment for him.
mlindsay
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Aug 20 @ 1:04 PM ET
Stafford was a pending UFA. Probably would have got the token 2nd rounder at the TDL.

IMO value wise Myers=Kane

25th overall, Armia, Lemiuex, Stafford >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bogo

- sbroads24

That's a bit harsh. Bogo is still a serviceable d-man. I would take him over Gorges any day.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Aug 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
Perhaps, but I think if there are 4 guys that are deemed ahead of him on the depth chart he looks elsewhere.
I could be wrong, but I think someone has a 3rd or fourth line assignment for him.

- mlindsay


No I agree. Like I said, maybe I'm naive, I guess I'm banking that he realizes it may be his only shot...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
That's a bit harsh. Bogo is still a serviceable d-man. I would take him over Gorges any day.
- mlindsay

Absolutely. But would you move a 1st ++ for Bogo?

I wouldn't come close to that for Fowler who's a comparable plsyer
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 20 @ 1:13 PM ET
Stafford was a pending UFA. Probably would have got the token 2nd rounder at the TDL.

IMO value wise Myers=Kane

25th overall, Armia, Lemiuex, Stafford >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bogo

- sbroads24

Who did that 25th overall become?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:14 PM ET
Who did that 25th overall become?
- rangerdanger94

Jack Roslovic.
jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

Aug 20 @ 1:17 PM ET
Until a college free agent contributes in any meaningful way...almost ever... Who cares about Vessey went? Hype machine at work that's all
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Aug 20 @ 1:27 PM ET
Jack Roslovic.
- sbroads24

Never heard of him

You guys overpaid a little for Bogo but he's a solid young piece to add to your blue line core and he still has some upside.
soljor09
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I wish you could unfollow people on here, NY
Joined: 02.11.2007

Aug 20 @ 1:32 PM ET
Until a college free agent contributes in any meaningful way...almost ever... Who cares about Vessey went? Hype machine at work that's all
- jjonah



He got more hype than the top coveted Free Agents. He also took way longer to sign than the top coveted free agents. Something definitely wrong with that picture.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:36 PM ET
Never heard of him

You guys overpaid a little for Bogo but he's a solid young piece to add to your blue line core and he still has some upside.

- rangerdanger94

Had a great year in college and already signed his ELC. He will probably be an NHL'ER next year.

Bogo is ok. Not that good. Not horrible. Big contract, injured a lot. I'll never get the appeal.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:39 PM ET
Had a great year in college and already signed his ELC. He will probably be an NHL'ER next year.

Bogo is ok. Not that good. Not horrible. Big contract, injured a lot. I'll never get the appeal.

- sbroads24

He throws big hits and fights, and as we all know that's the key to great defense. Hampus lindholm could learn a lot from him.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:42 PM ET
He throws big hits and fights, and as we all know that's the key to great defense. Hampus lindholm could learn a lot from him.
- Sabresfan-365

I just keep replaying the scenario in my head where we held off and then acquired Brandon Saad. Then Peter Chiarelli was fond of Tyler Myers and traded us Taylor Hall for him. Then Stamkos saw how legit we were and signed here. Then Vesey was like, yea I'll play 3rd line LW to Saad and Hall, and Lindholm was like, trade me to Buffalo, and we won the cup.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:44 PM ET
I just keep replaying the scenario in my head where we held off and then acquired Brandon Saad. Then Peter Chiarelli was fond of Tyler Myers and traded us Taylor Hall for him. Then Stamkos saw how legit we were and signed here. Then Vesey was like, yea I'll play 3rd line LW to Saad and Hall, and Lindholm was like, trade me to Buffalo, and we won the cup.
- sbroads24

Well poop now I'm sad
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:46 PM ET
Well poop now I'm sad
- Sabresfan-365

It's ok. We have a plan B.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 20 @ 1:49 PM ET
It's ok. We have a plan B.
- sbroads24

If for some reason Murray wouldn't tell Vesey he could be top 6, that could be the issue. I'm going to try and find that out.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:51 PM ET
If for some reason Murray wouldn't tell Vesey he could be top 6, that could be the issue. I'm going to try and find that out.
- SABRES 89

I think it's just New York City/Hayes/Close to home
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:52 PM ET
It's ok. We have a plan B.
- sbroads24

Thank goodness the cup is silver not gold...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:53 PM ET
Thank goodness the cup is silver not gold...
- Sabresfan-365

Nice
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 20 @ 1:53 PM ET
I think it's just New York City/Hayes/Close to home
- sbroads24

Well we tried
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 20 @ 1:59 PM ET
Well we tried
- SABRES 89

Yep, glad we did. And with him on the Rangers there is a very, very slim chance he ever wins a cup in his prime
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