Doesn't this make the Rangers the Stanley Cup Champions? Although it was the media that turned this into a circus, the constant chattering of people on here and other boards really became nauseating. I for one am glad this sideshow is over. Also, didn't the media make a circus of Kevin Hayes last year? Nobody even talks about him anymore.
- Thunderbolt

If he can play defense, then yes......'cause this will be a regular theme in coming years.

stilll 1:36 am here won't meet him until 2 pm at the party.

just hoping he don't get hungover for tomorrow
- martox

These guys realise Tanger & his little boy ate breakfast serial out of that cup???

They won't be hungover, they'll be still partying (hard)!

Are we going to see a photo of Martox with the Cup? Take the mask of the 'Batman' - er, Martox!

These guys realise Tanger & his little boy ate breakfast serial out of that cup???

They won't be hungover, they'll be still partying (hard)!

Are we going to see a photo of Martox with the Cup? Take the mask of the 'Batman' - er, Martox!
- Aussiepenguin

dw I will blackout my face.

Seriously...the Rangers were a poor choice for a number of reasons. What a disappointing finale to this thing.

Seriously...the Rangers were a poor choice for a number of reasons. What a disappointing finale to this thing.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

The kid went for the fame. He must be pretty confident 'cause those fans/media will turn on him if he struggles.

Seriously...the Rangers were a poor choice for a number of reasons. What a disappointing finale to this thing.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

The Rangers and Boston were the two teams trending down imo. I can understand if he picked Boston since its his team but the Rangers?? I don't get it either.

The Rangers and Boston were the two teams trending down imo. I can understand if he picked Boston since its his team but the Rangers?? I don't get it either.
- all-pgh

I think too often fans make the mistake of thinking players think like they think, not all players are movitated by just winning and I'm sure everyone in the NYR organization thinks they're a legit contender. New York teams will always be an attractive option due to the supplemental income potential through indorsements.

The Rangers and Boston were the two teams trending down imo. I can understand if he picked Boston since its his team but the Rangers?? I don't get it either.
- all-pgh

Even with Vesey I think the Rangers miss the playoffs next year. They are at best the 5th best team in the Metro and I think 4 teams from the Atlantic make the playoffs next year. Tampa, Florida, Montreal and Buffalo along with Pittsburgh, Washington, Islanders, and either Philly or Carolina. No room for the Rangers and they are pretty average now as it stands.

LOL ... he picked the Rags. What a worthless pick for him and his career. Anyway, no biggie. I think people are making too much out of this and him. To me, he isn't going to reach all the hype he created in NY. Not even close to me. That is on him.

I think too often fans make the mistake of thinking players think like they think, not all players are movitated by just winning and I'm sure everyone in the NYR organization thinks they're a legit contender. New York teams will always be an attractive option due to the supplemental income potential through indorsements.
- jaydogg1974

I don't think endorsements are a big deal for any nhl player. You really need to be a face of the franchise guy to take in money in that arena. Plus higher taxes. I think he fell in love with nyc. And I do the the rangers are a favorite to make the playoffs. Not much more but still a playoff team. Big difference between getting exposed by a cup team and racking up regular season points.

Seriously...the Rangers were a poor choice for a number of reasons. What a disappointing finale to this thing.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I think the Rags are a better fit for him than the Pens. Admittedly I have never seen him play, but the highlights and game snippets I have seen don't look like a Penguin to me. He has skills for sure, but he doesn't play with the speed and tenacity that is our identity now.

I think the Rags are a better fit for him than the Pens. Admittedly I have never seen him play, but the highlights and game snippets I have seen don't look like a Penguin to me. He has skills for sure, but he doesn't play with the speed and tenacity that is our identity now.
- stackthepads

Speed is an overused media cliche. We won because we had better hockey players. Don't see anyone complaining when hornqvist scores a goal. You can definitely mix other guys in and still have speed, but I think speed is a little overrated in why we won. Good players are good players no matter how they get it done.

Don't we now have a glut of young forwards who are already nhl proven. Injuries happen but he's still coming in 17th or so on our depth chart.
- sditulli

I just found that quote paraphrasing his agent. Seems a bit of a stretch, given the Pens forward depth.

Speed is an overused media cliche. We won because we had better hockey players. Don't see anyone complaining when hornqvist scores a goal. You can definitely mix other guys in and still have speed, but I think speed is a little overrated in why we won. Good players are good players no matter how they get it done.
- sditulli

Thank you. I feel like people think speed is about foot speed, when that has very little to do with what makes a team fast.

Thank you. I feel like people think speed is about foot speed, when that has very little to do with what makes a team fast.
- Blackstrom2

I think athleticism and skill is important

Athleticism is a combination of size, speed, strength, and agility. The best combo of those four is what you want. And the overall combo is what wins one on one match ups.

Thank you. I feel like people think speed is about foot speed, when that has very little to do with what makes a team fast.
- Blackstrom2

I actually asked the question at the start of the season when we were supposed to be a 'fast' team. What makes a team fast, & how can we be fast if other teams we play are faster?

Transition speed, passing speed, skating speed, thinking speed, reaction speed, forechecking speed, chasing speed???

I actually asked the question at the start of the season when we were supposed to be a 'fast' team. What makes a team fast, & how can we be fast if other teams we play are faster?

Transition speed, passing speed, skating speed, thinking speed, reaction speed, forechecking speed, chasing speed???
- Aussiepenguin

Arcobello is fast. I don't see anyone here asking to sign him. He definitely did some good things, but he's not going to win board battles too. The important thing is winning one on one battles. A guy like shaq wasn't fast in an absolute sense; but he could win one on one battles against anyone cause he was silly fast for a 7'3 350 lb guy.

I think Vesey will track to be a solid 40-50 point per season guy. In other words, middle six. Would have been a nice get, but we didn't need him. I have no idea why he picked the Rangers though. That franchise's success is directly tied to Hank, and he's not gonna be at the top for very much longer. Whatevs. Didn't have anything against him for doing what's best for him, but I guess I hate him now cus Rags.

I think the Rags are a better fit for him than the Pens. Admittedly I have never seen him play, but the highlights and game snippets I have seen don't look like a Penguin to me. He has skills for sure, but he doesn't play with the speed and tenacity that is our identity now.
- stackthepads

I honestly don't think so. Let's rattle of the reasons Vesey was taking into account where he signed.

Depth Chart: Worse. The Rangers have several solid wing options. Their issue is lack of real gamebreakers at forwards. Vesey could easily get buried over there. His competition here are Sheary and 80 year old Kunitz who'll be gone after this season.

Pressure: Worse. Vesey just rode the hype train big time and New York is a massive and passionate market. If he doesn't become a 60 point guy right off the bat he's gonna be hated there because of this LeBron decision like media circus. Not his fault, seems like a legitimately pensive and quite guy, but it comes with the territory of what he decided to do which was a good personal decision. The Pens wouldn't have needed him to be an actual star and we're a much more forgiving and smaller market. Unless he completely busted, I think he would have had a home here even if he never became more than a third liner.

Contention: Worse. Self explanatory. The Rags look to be on steep decline unless something cataclysmic happens, and he just handed them his RFA years of his prime gift wrapped. Sorry Jimmy. But if you willingly board a sinking ship, I'm assuming you like water.

Getting Paid: Worse. Vesey' chances of hitting performance bonuses are a lot worse on NYR due to system and surrounding talent. For the same reasons, he'll have more trouble putting up numbers to translate into a new contract.

Living Situation: Better. I mean, it is NYC. They got us there for sure. Technically this is subjective and maybe Vesey is the type of guy who'd prefer a smaller city atmosphere but since he signed in NY, I'm going to go ahead and assume he's not.

stilll 1:36 am here won't meet him until 2 pm at the party.

just hoping he don't get hungover for tomorrow
- martox

This is so great on so many levels. Great pic. Have fun, my man. Get some pics. I want to see please?

Arcobello is fast. I don't see anyone here asking to sign him. He definitely did some good things, but he's not going to win board battles too. The important thing is winning one on one battles. A guy like shaq wasn't fast in an absolute sense; but he could win one on one battles against anyone cause he was silly fast for a 7'3 350 lb guy.
- sditulli

Acro did well in all his teams he played in. I'm surprised no one wanted him for a bottom 6 role that could jump up here & there. There are worse players than him in the NHL.

I honestly don't think so. Let's rattle of the reasons Vesey was taking into account where he signed.

Depth Chart: Worse. The Rangers have several solid wing options. Their issue is lack of real gamebreakers at forwards. Vesey could easily get buried over there. His competition here are Sheary and 80 year old Kunitz who'll be gone after this season.

Pressure: Worse. Vesey just rode the hype train big time and New York is a massive and passionate market. If he doesn't become a 60 point guy right off the bat he's gonna be hated there because of this LeBron decision like media circus. Not his fault, seems like a legitimately pensive and quite guy, but it comes with the territory of what he decided to do which was a good personal decision. The Pens wouldn't have needed him to be an actual star and we're a much more forgiving and smaller market. Unless he completely busted, I think he would have had a home here even if he never became more than a third liner.

Contention: Worse. Self explanatory. The Rags look to be on steep decline unless something cataclysmic happens, and he just handed them his RFA years of his prime gift wrapped. Sorry Jimmy. But if you willingly board a sinking ship, I'm assuming you like water.

Getting Paid: Worse. Vesey' chances of hitting performance bonuses are a lot worse on NYR due to system and surrounding talent. For the same reasons, he'll have more trouble putting up numbers to translate into a new contract.

Living Situation: Better. I mean, it is NYC. They got us there for sure. Technically this is subjective and maybe Vesey is the type of guy who'd prefer a smaller city atmosphere but since he signed in NY, I'm going to go ahead and assume he's not.
- Victoro311

It depends on living, how you view NYC. I'm not a fan. You couldn't pay me enough to live there.

Acro did well in all his teams he played in. I'm surprised no one wanted him for a bottom 6 role that could jump up here & there. There are worse players than him in the NHL.
- Aussiepenguin

Its kind of like a guy who just has a face you want to punch. You don't know why, he's never done anything to offend you but you just want to knock him out. That's how coaches feel about a guy like Acro. That's why he never sticks anywhere.

It depends on living, how you view NYC. I'm not a fan. You couldn't pay me enough to live there.
- Oneonta Penguin

If I were Vesey's age and with a big paycheck, it would be awesome. I'd prefer Boston however if I'm going to a big city. At my age, with kids etc... I agree, not a place I want to be.

It depends on living, how you view NYC. I'm not a fan. You couldn't pay me enough to live there.
- Oneonta Penguin

That's why I said its technically subjective, but I have to assume that NYC and MSG were massive draws for the guy because if not then why pick the Rangers? Even the Devils would have been a better fit. IMO, the Rangers were literally the worst possible fit for Jimmy Vesey.