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all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2014

Aug 19 @ 11:39 AM ET
sounds like Vesey to the Rangers
- cap1681

why hasn't eklund reported this?? He has sources you know
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Aug 19 @ 11:55 AM ET
sounds like Vesey to the Rangers
- cap1681


Won't help them overcome all the dead weight and trash on that roster.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
So basically you're basing it on biased opinion and not stats or facts.

I don't hate Murray at all and I do agree that what he did as a rookie was admirable(even though I don't consider his playoff performance great), i'm just not ready to anoint the kid a Vezina winner and future hall of famer after less than 30 games. I say some flaws in his game (most are fixable) and he let in quite a few bad goals during his run so I'd like to see him show a little more before turning the franchise over to him. I'very been on record many times stating that if he continues that level of play throughout the season Fleurythmics goes and the team belongs to Murray so I have no clue where this "hate Murray and love Fleury" moniker comes from.

- jaydogg1974

It's kind of hard to prove that he would have lost it in the playoffs because he didn't play. So I'm not sure where I can pull stats and facts from? So opinion is the only way to go. And you have said many time and I guote "Murray has lost more games for the teams than he has won," which is ridiculous. Yes he let in a few bad goals but every goalie does. His poise and calm steadiness was very evident when it counted most. I don't need stats and stupid charts to tell me that Fleury can't handle pressure. Ive been watching him play 60-70 times a year for the last 10 years.
Dcoms
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham , ON
Joined: 06.22.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:34 PM ET
why hasn't eklund reported this?? He has sources you know
- all-pgh

Yeah his sources said that Pittsburgh doesn't have the cap space and arnt really interested. Ek hates the Pens more than Muslims hate the Jews.
stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA
Joined: 01.13.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:35 PM ET
sounds like Vesey to the Rangers
- cap1681


Hope he knows how to backcheck
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:42 PM ET
NYR would seem like the worst fit for vesey in terms of on-ice product. They just are not anything more than a 7/8 seed.

but the glamour of playing in NYR would be nice.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 19 @ 1:23 PM ET
NYR would seem like the worst fit for vesey in terms of on-ice product. They just are not anything more than a 7/8 seed.

but the glamour of playing in NYR would be nice.

- sditulli

I haven't seen anything resembling a legit source say he's narrowed it down to Chicago and NYR. Only outlet I've seen is the Hockey Press and then a bunch of people siting it, so...
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Aug 19 @ 1:25 PM ET
NYR would seem like the worst fit for vesey in terms of on-ice product. They just are not anything more than a 7/8 seed.

but the glamour of playing in NYR would be nice.

- sditulli


Glamour, yeah that is the reason to sign with NY. Because they sure as hell ain't contenders.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 19 @ 1:32 PM ET
What a piece of garbage u dug up to prove a point. Do the hockey world a favor and only watch the olympics every 2 yrs.
- Grinder47


Dude you're the biggest joke on this website, go back under your bridge you neanderthal.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 19 @ 1:39 PM ET
Rust didn't light up the AHL statewise and he was a big time contributor to our Cup run. You don't always have score goals if you're constantly driving posetion and doing good things on the ice. Sundqvist is closing in on that. I agree that he should marinate a little bit more but I liked what I saw after his second call up. He'll be an effective fourth liner by 2017.
- Victoro311


Rust had 9 points in 23 games, his production was timely, but there were stretches where he was snakebitten and couldn't find the back of the net. He had 5 points in a 4 game stretch between the ECF and SCF, and had a 3 point game vs. NYR.. he wasn't exactly a big time contributor. Just timely. I will say his speed caused fits and he won a lot of puck races. But that's not Sundqvist's game. Dude is a "2-way player" that has produced little offense. Pretty sure his usage chart had him starting the majority of his shifts in the offensive zone, but winding up with a negative shot differential isn't good when you start in the O-zone.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 19 @ 1:42 PM ET
I'll take Rust over Hudler any day. Rust was clutch in the playoffs and Hudler has never won a cup. I have Rust to score 20 goals this year. I think that kid has the best attitude and his speed is incredible. Age is just a number but we have lots of older players, we have had lots every year and they always find a way to let us down. I want a competitive team in 7 years. We have to cultivate that. No one lets good young players just walk. The fact Hudler has not yet been signed gives me alarm bells. He was an embarrassment in Florida last year. Let so either team make a mistake signing him. If he ends up being a difference maker for any team this year I promise to admit I know nothing but I'm actually a pretty good judge of talent and I think Hudler is a mistake. Nothing retarded about it, and I would know, I work with developmentally disabled people every day for my job and even they think Hudler is a mistake.
- Dcoms


How is 11 points in 19 games an embarrassment? Rust had 11 in 41. Not to mention he had 35 in 53 in CGY. Because he never won a cup, that matters? what the hell does that mean? That's just as retarded as your other statement.

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
Charts are not hockey. Advanced stats are something you make note of while you are watching the player play not what you base your total opinion of the player on. You might as well be James Tanner and use exclusivly HERO charts to base your opinions on every player and never actually watch a game or give a $hit about the sport.
- Dcoms



Charts are a collection of data that come from the on-ice product, so... essentially.. they are hockey. You know.. stats. So... yeah, they are hockey, and I'm not exclusively using these charts, I watched Sundqvist play, and he was nothing special, and his charts reinforce what I saw, as does it simple point production, or lack thereof.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
Stupid bans.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Aug 19 @ 2:07 PM ET
Technically, so far Vesey has waited one week to make his decision. He's been meeting with teams during his first week as a free agent. I'm not about to start calling him am entitled drama queen. I don't think any of this circus reflects poorly on his character, it reflects poorly on the media.

Plus, without Vesey talk, this offseason would be boring as frank.

Legit excited about DiPauli. Love that he fits the team mold. We will need Bonino/Fehr/Cullen insurance going forward. One more center behind Sundqvist is nice.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
I haven't seen anything resembling a legit source say he's narrowed it down to Chicago and NYR. Only outlet I've seen is the Hockey Press and then a bunch of people siting it, so...
- Victoro311


Chicago and Pittsburgh are easily the best situations for this kid....and not by a little. He better produce in the NY market 'cause the media will rip him to shreds if he struggles.

I'm convinced the Rags are in for a sizable drop-off. I think it's probably the worst situation. The team is headed the wrong direction. They have crippling contracts with no super star center. He's going to get some grief if he doesn't score goals.

All of the other markets have either lower expectations or star players to prop him up.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Aug 19 @ 2:19 PM ET
Chicago and Pittsburgh are easily the best situations for this kid....and not by a little. He better produce in the NY market 'cause the media will rip him to shreds if he struggles.

I'm convinced the Rags are in for a sizable drop-off. I think it's probably the worst situation. The team is headed the wrong direction. They have crippling contracts with no super star center. He's going to get some grief if he doesn't score goals.

All of the other markets have either lower expectations or star players to prop him up.

- madmike71


I agree, not really sure why he'd go to any other team IF his focus is on winning.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Aug 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
I agree, not really sure why he'd go to any other team IF his focus is on winning.
- j.boyd919


The Pens should send him some clips of Crosby's passes that weren't buried in the playoffs. Maybe it will scare him, but nobody in the league passes on that level. If he's able to handle it, Sid will make him a 6 or 7 mil player in 2 years.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Aug 19 @ 3:23 PM ET
I agree, not really sure why he'd go to any other team IF his focus is on winning.
- j.boyd919


Impossible to know his priorities. My priority would be money (second contract), a well run organization (not Edmonton), and a decent city to live in.

I think there is appeal for some kids living in a big city like NY or CHI but ultimately too many factors, imo, for that to be the main motivator.
mont23
Joined: 09.16.2005

Aug 19 @ 3:26 PM ET
Bell's reduced suspension should make Vesey's decision easier
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Aug 19 @ 3:49 PM ET
Technically, so far Vesey has waited one week to make his decision. He's been meeting with teams during his first week as a free agent. I'm not about to start calling him am entitled drama queen. I don't think any of this circus reflects poorly on his character, it reflects poorly on the media.

Plus, without Vesey talk, this offseason would be boring as frank.

Legit excited about DiPauli. Love that he fits the team mold. We will need Bonino/Fehr/Cullen insurance going forward. One more center behind Sundqvist is nice.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Ya I heard people on the office in Chicago talking about him being a primadonna and he better produce with all the hype on him. I don't see his actions reflecting that. He's not the one creating hype.....has he even done an interview?

The time factor isn't really his doing. He should have a good idea on where he would be interested in playing, but only buffalo has been able to discuss terms and usage with him until 4 days ago. To spend 4 days discussing and thinking about the most important decision of your life with literally 10's of millions riding on it is pretty normal.

Hockey media is just stuck on it because it's the only story right now. Chicago cares because they are a fridge cup contender and need another Panarin free asset to get into the mix.

Personal opinion I would have just played in Nashville last year since they were a contender but he obviously prefers a major city or east coast.

My gut says vesey wants to sign with us, but I also think we are giving him the least amount of love.
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

Aug 19 @ 3:52 PM ET
Impossible to know his priorities. My priority would be money (second contract), a well run organization (not Edmonton), and a decent city to live in.

I think there is appeal for some kids living in a big city like NY or CHI but ultimately too many factors, imo, for that to be the main motivator.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I feel like we are a little higher risks high reward for him. Other teams will likely offer him a better guarantee top 6/pp time. But we are also the only team offering him the chance to play with a top center. Toews isn't the same offensive force
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