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jackzack87
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.26.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:04 AM ET
why is buffalo a good choice? what have they done exactly?

philly is a bad choice why? please enlighten us all.

what universal truths are you talking about?

- rinaldo


If you have just crawled out of a cave I really can't help you, but I'll give you a quick synopsis.cBuffalo and Tor have pulled all out rebuilds and stacked young players with high 1st round picks and are in progressive stages of rebuilding. They are both poised to finish many points higher than last year and compete for wildcard spots.

Philly and NJ have been stuck at borderline playoff contention for several years. They have not significant improved their teams through the draft and with the rise of young teams may take a step back this year. NJ traded for a solid forward but still lacks depth and firepower. Philly has not done much.

You'll have to wiki the rest and checkout life.
highstick87
Boston Bruins
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
Dude. I know. This is so ridiculous.

Everyone is treating him like he's a seasoned player that just became a Free Agent and can come right in and help a team.

He's completely unproven. It's 50/50: he could be good, or he could be a bust.

He's chosen to go down the dangerous road of Free Agency for unproven guys--creating a media circus around himself (which is not entirely his fault). Now he'll have to deal with being under a microscope and living up to impossible expectations.

Makes you appreciate the dudes even more who don't have the luxury of pulling this kind of stunt and actually sign with the team that drafted them and work their way up.

- Hank3Henshaw


All I know is Kevin Hayes must be asking himself why he didn't get this type of attention when he did the same exact thing.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
how are they not?

better team. better prospects. has an opportunity to play on top line if he earns it with Giroux.

what do the devils have?

- rinaldo


Don't poop yourself. I just asked why you thought Philly was a better fit.

What we do have is an invite to the table. I'm not sure Philly got one.


TwoPumpChump91
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 03.04.2016

Aug 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
Really that is how you a better. Sabres went from 54 points to 81 points. Clearly they are getting better and are on the rise. Devils went from 78 to 84. Not that impressive. I bet you everything including kitchen sink sabres have more points then devils at the end of the year.

Also power rankings
http://www.espn.com/nhl/powerrankings

- hanleyaj


Well you were like historically one of the worst teams ever with that embarrassing tank job, id hope you'd improve alot...

Also, you use ESPN POWER RANKINGS as your reasoning in why the sabres are so much better off?
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 17 @ 11:06 AM ET
All I know is Kevin Hayes must be asking himself why he didn't get this type of attention when he did the same exact thing.
- highstick87


He got a pretty fair amount of attention, but it wasn't this much, that's for sure. Haha.

I mean, I'm not rooting against the dude, I just think it's absurd at this point. The media loves to blow this kind of thing up.

Guess it's been a slow offseason so they need something to pass the time.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
How about anywhere but Sabres or Hawks
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Aug 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
Everyone needs to calm down because he's going to Arizona-they're the best faceoff team in the league and the birthplace of harambe

one faceoff = one goal
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 17 @ 11:08 AM ET
If you have just crawled out of a cave I really can't help you, but I'll give you a quick synopsis.cBuffalo and Tor have pulled all out rebuilds and stacked young players with high 1st round picks and are in progressive stages of rebuilding. They are both poised to finish many points higher than last year and compete for wildcard spots.

Philly and NJ have been stuck at borderline playoff contention for several years. They have not significant improved their teams through the draft and with the rise of young teams may take a step back this year. NJ traded for a solid forward but still lacks depth and firepower. Philly has not done much.

You'll have to wiki the rest and checkout life.

- jackzack87

Despite the urge to hack my fingers off rather than write the following sentence(s):

Saying PHI hasn't improved through the draft is a little shortsighted. Maybe they haven't wholly seen the fruits of their labor yet, but they have probably the deepest defensive prospect pool in the league and that isn't accounting for Gostisbehere who had a phenomenal rookie campaign. Provorov is probably a top 3 defensive prospect in the league and the other 3 or so guys are all talented in their own right. They have some reasonably solid forward prospects, as well.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
Better goaltending
- IrischesGlueck


"We have a trade to announce....... I think you're going to wanna hear this?!"
hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.20.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:10 AM ET
Bergeron i believe is still in his 20's or just turned 30, and how can you be overrated while watching the playoffs for the past 2 seasons? Also, they are integrating a ton of young players, so besides Chara and Backes, I don't know who's "old", and what young team succeeds in the league?
- highstick87


Patrice Bergeron 31
David Krejci 30
Brad Marchand 28
Matt Beleskey 28
Dennis Seidenberg 35
John-Michael Liles 35

Their best players are all past their prime. Besides krug and spooner 5 of their top 7 leading scores are past their prime or close to it. Besides Krug 9 of their 10 leading ice time players are older then 28.
jackzack87
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.26.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
Despite the urge to hack my fingers off rather than write the following sentence(s):

Saying PHI hasn't improved through the draft is a little shortsighted. Maybe they haven't wholly seen the fruits of their labor yet, but they have probably the deepest defensive prospect pool in the league and that isn't accounting for Gostisbehere who had a phenomenal rookie campaign. Provorov is probably a top 3 defensive prospect in the league and the other 3 or so guys are all talented in their own right. They have some reasonably solid forward prospects, as well.

- eichiefs9

Thanks for that and agreed. I think ghost is an amazing dman and they flyers are doing fine with a moderate prospect pool overall. They have been pretty quiet in FA and lack a lot of firepower up front and shaky in goal.
highstick87
Boston Bruins
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 17 @ 11:13 AM ET
Patrice Bergeron 31
David Krejci 30
Brad Marchand 28
Matt Beleskey 28
Dennis Seidenberg 35
John-Michael Liles 35

Their best players are all past their prime. Besides krug and spooner 5 of their top 7 leading scores are past their prime or close to it. Besides Krug 9 of their 10 leading ice time players are older then 28.

- hanleyaj


Well for starters Seidenberg is a goner, and liles is a stop gap until they develop someone to step in, probably carlo. You are also forgetting guys like pastrnak and
vatrano
jackzack87
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.26.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:15 AM ET
Well for starters Seidenberg is a goner, and liles is a stop gap until they develop someone to step in, probably carlo. You are also forgetting guys like pastrnak and
vatrano

- highstick87


Give it up man...Bruins are starting the slide down soon. Every team has a few bright spots, but overall Boston needs an overhaul and youth movement to become serious contenders again
hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.20.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
Well for starters Seidenberg is a goner, and liles is a stop gap until they develop someone to step in, probably carlo. You are also forgetting guys like pastrnak and
vatrano

- highstick87


So you are telling me you think pastrnak and vatrano are good enough to carry your team Like Bergeon and Krejci were able to. They are good players but they are not Bergeon and Krejci. With their core getting past their prime and on down slope of their careers it will be best for orgazation to sell and rebuild. you wait any longer and Bergeon and Krejci will not be worth anything besides a bag of pucks.
hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 01.20.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:18 AM ET
Give it up man...Bruins are starting the slide down soon. Every team has a few bright spots, but overall Boston needs an overhaul and youth movement to become serious contenders again
- jackzack87


Agreed.
One_Eyed_Sweede
Boston Bruins
Location: Angry One Eyed Swede, MA
Joined: 07.01.2013

Aug 17 @ 11:18 AM ET
Give it up man...Bruins are starting the slide down soon. Every team has a few bright spots, but overall Boston needs an overhaul and youth movement to become serious contenders again
- jackzack87


Starting? Thanks for the generosity. They're mediocre. Which is the purgatory between good and Toronto.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:20 AM ET
atleast theres no homers in here.....

highstick87
Boston Bruins
Joined: 07.14.2016

Aug 17 @ 11:21 AM ET
Agreed.
- hanleyaj


Were you one of the thousands cheering a loss a couple of years ago to get McDavid? and failed.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
The Hurricanes have 8 players on the roster right now that are the same age or younger than Jimmy Vesey.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
If you have just crawled out of a cave I really can't help you, but I'll give you a quick synopsis.cBuffalo and Tor have pulled all out rebuilds and stacked young players with high 1st round picks and are in progressive stages of rebuilding. They are both poised to finish many points higher than last year and compete for wildcard spots.

Philly and NJ have been stuck at borderline playoff contention for several years. They have not significant improved their teams through the draft and with the rise of young teams may take a step back this year. NJ traded for a solid forward but still lacks depth and firepower. Philly has not done much.

You'll have to wiki the rest and checkout life.

- jackzack87

stacked young players. good stuff. let me know when all that pays off will you.

well it is obvious you are clueless about the flyers situation. flyers are in a rebuild (you wouldn't know that as you are clearly clueless) yet still made the playoffs. they don't have to tank and be a disgrace to the sports world like buffalo did.

your right the flyers have no high 1st rd picks. they have nothing on the horizon. They are an old borderline team with aging vets. mid pack team for years to come. just a shame they don't follow the buffalo model to succeed.
holeinone
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 07.03.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
New Jersey is where rookies go to die
jackzack87
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.26.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
Starting? Thanks for the generosity. They're mediocre. Which is the purgatory between good and Toronto.
- One_Eyed_Sweede

Haha, I had always figured it was the modern day NJD..
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
Don't poop yourself. I just asked why you thought Philly was a better fit.

What we do have is an invite to the table. I'm not sure Philly got one.

- Queenie_5_hole

and I gave you an answer. what's the problem?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
The Hurricanes have 8 players on the roster right now that are the same age or younger than Jimmy Vesey.
- BINGO!


there hurricanes smell like cabbage...there I said it
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
New Jersey is where rookies go to die
- holeinone


*Edmonton

Fixed it for you
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