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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:33 AM ET
Anybody else seeing Eichel's face on the female golfers? Asking for a friend.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:34 AM ET
Pretty sure that RFA's are exposed to the expansion draft... That's why Zaitsev signed 1 year deal so we don't lose him in expansion... Carrick is only signed to a 1 year deal then will be RFA. So we can protect Rielly, Gardiner and one other

EDIT: pretty sure they are NOT exposed

- grim1911

I don't think this is right
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
I should've added the frustration was a continuation of the last game too. Letting Thole bat in the top of the 9th!

(Although the Yankees made some weird choices that game too)

- markmark



no time to dwell on the win last night..all those HRs and not enough small ball .. 1:00 game today

markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
I don't think this is right
- ClarksonDavid


Zaitsev will only be considered a 1st year pro at that point no? So he would be exempt from that I'd imagine?
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:36 AM ET
no time to dwell on the win last night..all those HRs and not enough small ball .. 1:00 game today
- senstroll


You shut your mouth!

I said when it was 6-0!
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:37 AM ET
Zaitsev will only be considered a 1st year pro at that point no? So he would be exempt from that I'd imagine?
- markmark

Zaitsev will be exempt Carrick will not. Right now leafs would have to protect Rielly Gardiner Carrick and Zaitsev will be exempt guys like Corrado loov Marcinin will be exposed no big deal
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 17 @ 11:37 AM ET
Nope.

1. Big Buff runs the PP
2. Maurice likes LH/RH so Enstrom often plays the other point
3. For some reason people still think Tyler Myers is good at scoring
4. Morrissey is coming in at LD as well and is an offensive defenseman and needs PP time

- AdamFrench


While I agree with about everything you said here (aside from Enstrom still having his place on the powerplay... at some point even Maurice will have to replace him), is this really the way the Jets can handle this situation?

If they don't give Trouba the role he wants to play when other teams would gladly do so... it's more likely than not that he'll leave the Jets as soon as possible to earn himself a big payday.

I just can't believe Winnipeg wouldn't at least try to make him happy and give him SOME powerplay time?
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:37 AM ET
Zaitsev will be exempt Carrick will not. Right now leafs would have to protect Rielly Gardiner Carrick and Zaitsev will be exempt guys like Corrado loov Marcinin will be exposed no big deal
- ClarksonDavid


They're used to being exposed.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:38 AM ET
They're used to being exposed.
- 1979AD

Milk_Babchoc
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Purgatory
Joined: 06.29.2016

Aug 17 @ 11:38 AM ET
You shut your mouth!

I said when it was 6-0!

- markmark


I was texting back and forth with my buddy who is a Yanks fan... He was so positive right up until that 8th inning...
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
They're used to being exposed.
- 1979AD

That's true
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 17 @ 11:40 AM ET
Zaitsev will be exempt Carrick will not. Right now leafs would have to protect Rielly Gardiner Carrick and Zaitsev will be exempt guys like Corrado loov Marcinin will be exposed no big deal
- ClarksonDavid


Why would Carrick be exposed? Because he played x # of games last year?
DamnBrasKiss
Joined: 04.10.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
it's all about draft and develop, but if a good deal is there and will help the team for the next 7 years, I'd like to think Shanny and Lamoriello would consider it.

also, nice to see you buddy, hope your summer is going well!

- Lucas.Neilson


Agreed my man, but you don't get a top end piece without giving up one yourself...and while our cupboards are becoming "more" filled, I'm not excited about looking to empty them for someone else's groomed talent because we can't just groom our own, ya know?

Other than thaaaat....summer going well! Been busy but good busy

You?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Wait...what???
- yemrots

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Why would Carrick be exposed? Because he played x # of games last year?
- grim1911



Number of pro years.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Agreed my man, but you don't get a top end piece without giving up one yourself...and while our cupboards are becoming "more" filled, I'm not excited about looking to empty them for someone else's groomed talent because we can't just groom our own, ya know?

Other than thaaaat....summer going well! Been busy but good busy

You?

- DamnBrasKiss

grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
Number of pro years.
- burn


AHL is considered pro? Cause he hasn't played 2 years in the nhl
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
AHL is considered pro? Cause he hasn't played 2 years in the nhl
- grim1911



Yes.


General fan anger has a tool to determine who is and isn't eligible.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Maui WOWY
18m
Maui WOWY‏ @wombathockey
@wombathockey so when MTL hires Roy, do all of you eat crow? Or is NHL management just across the board dumb?



Maui WOWY
16m
Maui WOWY‏ @wombathockey
@wombathockey cause ya know, if some1 whos unemployed can determine execs making 6 figures are incompetent, they must be really incompetent



Maui WOWY
15m
Maui WOWY‏
@wombathockey yet these incompetent people continue to remain in positions of power. So maybe, just maybbbbe, you need to reanalyze.


This guy going off the deep end..... What a stupid way to look at it. Stupid people who did a bad job are still getting jobs, so obviously they aren't as bad as you think. I think this dude been dropped on his head too many times.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Agreed my man, but you don't get a top end piece without giving up one yourself...and while our cupboards are becoming "more" filled, I'm not excited about looking to empty them for someone else's groomed talent because we can't just groom our own, ya know?

Other than thaaaat....summer going well! Been busy but good busy

You?

- DamnBrasKiss


Agreed. I clicked the first link on google for "2017 NHL entry draft" and it looks like the Leafs are drafting a Dman second overall next year.

Lets just see how he does!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 17 @ 11:45 AM ET
Trouba is Luke Schenn
- HealthyScratch6


Morgan riely is John micheal Liles
grim1911
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.14.2008

Aug 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Yes.


General fan anger has a tool to determine who is and isn't eligible.

- burn


is KHL pro then too?
Sandro
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.10.2009

Aug 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Solid write-up Lucas!

I actually wrote some comments on your blog a few days ago, in that I would hope the Leafs could be knocking on Winnipeg's Door for Trouba.

So im glad you did a write up on this topic.

Personally, I would pursue Trouba over Shattenkirk. Trouba is a bit more of what the Leafs need on their Back-end.
As his overall game improves, I could see him develop into a Duncan Keith type Defenseman.

At 22, he would also fit well with the total developmental stage, the core Leaf players are in. Growing with Rielly could really pay dividends within 2-3 years...when this team is serious in contending for the East.

I could see a deal like this, be in discussion:

o JVR 1989 (LW) (Jets need a Top-End Left Winger)
o K.Kapanen (W) 1996 (Young B Prospect)
o J.Cowan (D) 1991 (could his contract here, and take on Pavelec, as Leafs need a Back-up)
FOR
o J.Trouba (D) 1994
o O.Pavelec (G) 1987 (G) (1 yr/$3.9M)
as Jets have Connor Hellebuyck and Michael Hutchinson already in goal


Just something to think about. Would like to hear your thoughts Lucas.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Aug 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
Why would Carrick be exposed? Because he played x # of games last year?
- grim1911


# of years with pro contract

wayyyyyy too late on that one
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Morgan riely is John micheal Liles
- Ross77


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