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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:47 PM ET
A quick googling shows it was built after and separate from the Hunter plan.

It was much smaller when it opened in 1988.

- Atomic Wedgie


Fuuuck. it seats only 100 people less than the Jets' building seats.

Both Saskatoon and Regina are talking about building bigger arenas in their respective downtowns, too.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:48 PM ET
Nah. Attendance numbers dropped so much the last few years BECAUSE they only give out about 300 freebie tickets per night now. Old numbers were inflated by about 2500 tickets per night.
- BINGO!



There isn't an NHL team in deeper sh!t than the Hurricanes. Owner owes the NHL over $30 million, his sons over $350 million and the team is worth only $225 million according to Forbes. That's pretty low considering Vegas is ponying up $750 million for a new team. Special word for the day "RELOCATION"
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Aug 17 @ 6:50 PM ET
There isn't an NHL team is deeper sh!t than the Hurricanes. Owner owes the NHL over $30 million, his sons over $350 million and the team is worth only $225 million according to Forbes. That's pretty low considering Vegas is ponying up $750 million for a new team. Special word for the day "RELOCATION"
- winsix



They will be moving to Quebec in 2yrs time..(if not sooner)
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 17 @ 6:55 PM ET
They will be moving to Quebec in 2yrs time..(if not sooner)
- Fruitcakenipple


Peter Kamanos and Eugene Smellsh!t are busy panhandling and searching their couches for change in hopes of getting enough money to sign Vesey
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Aug 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
I believe it would be VERY smart for the Leaves to package a deal for Shattenkirk. They (the Leaves) have a lot of forwards and could put together 4-5 of them to get Shattenkirk. As a Blues fan I'd like the Leaves to offer Matthews, Nylander, Reilly, Marner, Komorov and Gardner. I think the Leaves would need to sweeten the pot and add 2 first round picks and a second like they did to get Kessel. Plus they'd need to add JVR and Soshnikov and Connor Brown and Travis Dermott will likely get it done. Plus another 1st round pick. And JJ Piccinic. And Kapanen. So, to sum up. Shattenkirk to the Leaves for Matthews, Nylander, Reilly, Marner, Komorov, Gardner, 2 first round picks, 1 second round pick, JVR, Soshnikov, Connor Brown, Dermott, a 1st round pick, Piccinic, Kapanen, and Kyle Dubas. We're practically giving Shattenkirk away at this point. Add Zack Hyman as well and we'll do it, but you owe us one Leave fans.
- Kayakjack



Please return your LEAFS Nation card and go cheer for the Sens!
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Aug 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
Peter Kamanos and Eugene Smellsh!t are busy panhandling and searching their couches for change in hopes of getting enough money to sign Vesey
- winsix


BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
There isn't an NHL team is deeper sh!t than the Hurricanes. Owner owes the NHL over $30 million, his sons over $350 million and the team is worth only $225 million according to Forbes. That's pretty low considering Vegas is ponying up $750 million for a new team. Special word for the day "RELOCATION"
- winsix




Given his still-abundant investing activities, significant cash inflow, sheer net worth and the simple fact he hasn’t filed for bankruptcy, it seems safe to assume that Karmanos’ bank account remains well-endowed.

Family strife, instead of financial ability, is the increasingly unanimous explanation for why Karmanos is ignoring paying off his 2013 loan.

Per the same court document, Karmanos took out two loans from the trust fund prior to this most recent one: a $180M loan in 1999 (to be paid in installments until 2029) and a $69.7M loan in 2009 (to be paid in installments until 2017).

Neither of those loans are scheduled to have been paid off already and, presumably, Karmanos has been making those payments on time, as no complaints are made in regard to either in the lawsuit. Mathematically, he should have paid roughly $104M in payments so far on the 1999 loan and $68M in payments so far on the 2009 loan — sums that further reinforce conclusions about the lushness of his bank account.

That implies the timing of the 2013 loan may be important.

During the same NHL offseason in which he took out that loan, Karmanos’ son Jason, one of the lawsuit’s three plaintiffs, was abruptly fired from the Hurricanes’ front office. Jason now works for the Pittsburgh Penguins alongside former Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford, who was inexplicably ravaged in an explosive, now-infamous Karmanos press conference last summer.

While presumably making full, on-time payments on his 1999 and 2009 loans, Karmanos has allegedly made absolutely no payments at all, rather than merely insufficient payments, on the 2013 loan. The perplexing disparity between these two patterns indicates that the latter may be because of disinterest in paying rather than inability to pay.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Aug 17 @ 6:58 PM ET
Peter Kamanos and Eugene Smellsh!t are busy panhandling and searching their couches for change in hopes of getting enough money to sign Vesey
- winsix

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 7:01 PM ET


Given his still-abundant investing activities, significant cash inflow, sheer net worth and the simple fact he hasn’t filed for bankruptcy, it seems safe to assume that Karmanos’ bank account remains well-endowed.

Family strife, instead of financial ability, is the increasingly unanimous explanation for why Karmanos is ignoring paying off his 2013 loan.

Per the same court document, Karmanos took out two loans from the trust fund prior to this most recent one: a $180M loan in 1999 (to be paid in installments until 2029) and a $69.7M loan in 2009 (to be paid in installments until 2017).

Neither of those loans are scheduled to have been paid off already and, presumably, Karmanos has been making those payments on time, as no complaints are made in regard to either in the lawsuit. Mathematically, he should have paid roughly $104M in payments so far on the 1999 loan and $68M in payments so far on the 2009 loan — sums that further reinforce conclusions about the lushness of his bank account.

That implies the timing of the 2013 loan may be important.

During the same NHL offseason in which he took out that loan, Karmanos’ son Jason, one of the lawsuit’s three plaintiffs, was abruptly fired from the Hurricanes’ front office. Jason now works for the Pittsburgh Penguins alongside former Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford, who was inexplicably ravaged in an explosive, now-infamous Karmanos press conference last summer.

While presumably making full, on-time payments on his 1999 and 2009 loans, Karmanos has allegedly made absolutely no payments at all, rather than merely insufficient payments, on the 2013 loan. The perplexing disparity between these two patterns indicates that the latter may be because of disinterest in paying rather than inability to pay.

- BINGO!


I invite you to read the entire article, which is far more in depth than this.

http://www.todaysslapshot...r-concern-for-hurricanes/
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 17 @ 7:05 PM ET


Given his still-abundant investing activities, significant cash inflow, sheer net worth and the simple fact he hasn’t filed for bankruptcy, it seems safe to assume that Karmanos’ bank account remains well-endowed.

Family strife, instead of financial ability, is the increasingly unanimous explanation for why Karmanos is ignoring paying off his 2013 loan.

Per the same court document, Karmanos took out two loans from the trust fund prior to this most recent one: a $180M loan in 1999 (to be paid in installments until 2029) and a $69.7M loan in 2009 (to be paid in installments until 2017).

Neither of those loans are scheduled to have been paid off already and, presumably, Karmanos has been making those payments on time, as no complaints are made in regard to either in the lawsuit. Mathematically, he should have paid roughly $104M in payments so far on the 1999 loan and $68M in payments so far on the 2009 loan — sums that further reinforce conclusions about the lushness of his bank account.

That implies the timing of the 2013 loan may be important.

During the same NHL offseason in which he took out that loan, Karmanos’ son Jason, one of the lawsuit’s three plaintiffs, was abruptly fired from the Hurricanes’ front office. Jason now works for the Pittsburgh Penguins alongside former Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford, who was inexplicably ravaged in an explosive, now-infamous Karmanos press conference last summer.

While presumably making full, on-time payments on his 1999 and 2009 loans, Karmanos has allegedly made absolutely no payments at all, rather than merely insufficient payments, on the 2013 loan. The perplexing disparity between these two patterns indicates that the latter may be because of disinterest in paying rather than inability to pay.

- BINGO!


Karmanos ownership of the Hurricanes will end and sooner than later - the size of his bank account is not as relevant as the merits of keeping a team in a market that will not support an NHL franchise.

As to Jim Rutherford

Talk about a lucky stiff! Goes from a truly terrible NHL franchise to win a cup in one year - he probably laughs himself to sleep.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:06 PM ET
I gotta say, Lucas. You've mastered the art of hijacking MiB and making this the joint to be.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 17 @ 7:07 PM ET
Too far away from anywhere but Edmonton or Calgary, really.

The rink is wasted on a Major Junior team though. Seats 12,500.

- BINGO!

Rush did great there but I mean they played like 9 games only. If the blades management wasn't such a joke I'd probably go to a few more games but no thanks.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:08 PM ET
I remember last year I got mad when Happ was the pitcher brought in. I'm not even mad at being proven wrong and having raw egg on my face.


Wait a second, that ain't raw egg.... (frank)ing glory holes. You never know where what when it shoots. Good times though.
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 17 @ 7:16 PM ET
I remember last year I got mad when Happ was the pitcher brought in I'm not even mad at being proven wrong and having raw egg on my face.


Wait a second, that ain't raw egg.... (frank)ing glory holes. You never know where what when it shoots. Good times though.

- weirdo


Ditto - who would have thought he even had a remote chance at a Cy Young Award!
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 17 @ 7:24 PM ET

- Garnie



Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 17 @ 7:24 PM ET
Ditto - who would have thought he even had a remote chance at a Cy Young Award!
- winsix



I'd put Sanchez ahead of Happ.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Aug 17 @ 7:28 PM ET
beleafer04
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: SK
Joined: 01.17.2015

Aug 17 @ 7:29 PM ET
Rush did great there but I mean they played like 9 games only. If the blades management wasn't such a joke I'd probably go to a few more games but no thanks.
- ClarksonDavid


I haven't been to a Blades game in close to a decade (probably over). I couldn't agree more about a team being as poorly mismanaged as the Blades have been. I think the last Blades game I went to was when Darcy Hordichuk and Martin Erat played for them.

Though I did attend some world junior games and the memorial cup in the past.

As for an NHL team...Saskatoon is small but people in Sasky travel for many events and four hours round trip for a hockey game wouldn't be out of the question for some people.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:34 PM ET

- Fruitcakenipple



One image somebody is being enlightened to what's going on in the world. The other somebody is catching a (frank)ing imaginary pixel or telling his friend about his pizza.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Aug 17 @ 7:36 PM ET
One image somebody is being enlightened to what's going on in the world. The other somebody is catching a (frank)ing imaginary pixel or telling his friend about his pizza.
- weirdoh



yep...different world today..
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:37 PM ET
Peter Kamanos and Eugene Smellsh!t are busy panhandling and searching their couches for change in hopes of getting enough money to sign Vesey
- winsix



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:40 PM ET
Jimmy Fece sign yet?
- ThePresident



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:42 PM ET
yep...different world today..
- Fruitcakenipple





One they are reading about something that happened days ago (current events for that time period) and other they are reading about something transpiring that very second.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Aug 17 @ 7:43 PM ET


One they are reading about something that happened days ago (current events for that time period) and other they are reading about something transpiring that very second.

- burn




Eating pizza with a Pepsi

1 s ago



What a (frank)ing magical world!
winsix
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Aug 17 @ 7:46 PM ET
yep...different world today..
- Fruitcakenipple


No kidding


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