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Forums :: Blog World :: Lucas Neilson: Should the Maple Leafs Pursue Shattenkirk or Trouba?
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BrainSap
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.19.2016

Aug 17 @ 1:42 PM ET
Trouba, Hutchinson for jvr and either Marincin and polak or carrick and hunwick if the leafs have to take back Stuart so be it
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:43 PM ET
But where are the homeruns? I get really frustrated when they go out and don't swing for the fences one after the other.
- markmark


You sure they're not swinging for the fences today?

The team's stacked with power hitters. Expecting your power hitters not to hit for power is ridiculous.

"So you're up there thinking 'damage' at all times."
- MLB Network host, Mark DeRosa

"Why wouldn't I?"
- Josh Donaldson
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:44 PM ET
Trouba, Hutchinson for jvr and either Marincin and polak or carrick and hunwick if the leafs have to take back Stuart so be it
- BrainSap


This makes no sense for Winnipeg.
BrainSap
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.19.2016

Aug 17 @ 1:44 PM ET
Plus with the expansion draft coming (only protect 3 dmen) it might be better to wait until next summer and see how the chips fall this year. If Carrick comes good they'll need to protect him, Gardiner and Rielly.
- The Law


Send carrick the other way in the Trouba deal
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
oh good - finally some small ball!
- 1979AD


kinda
it was 1B, BB, 2B, 2B ..doubles dont count as small ball according to the wikipedia page
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:45 PM ET
This makes no sense for Winnipeg.
- Scabeh


STFU. You're going to scare off this awesome trade!
BrainSap
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.19.2016

Aug 17 @ 1:52 PM ET
This makes no sense for Winnipeg.
- Scabeh


Jvr
Ehlers
Conner

Great LW scoring right there with an added serviceable 3rd pairing with deadline asset and a prospect with potential.

The peg has a hard time getting players to play for there team so your not likely to get I high end winger through free agency. Jvr's contract fits perfectly with the big buff winning window, if such a thing exists.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:53 PM ET
STFU. You're going to scare off this awesome trade!
- .HOHO.


markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:55 PM ET
You sure they're not swinging for the fences today?

The team's stacked with power hitters. Expecting your power hitters not to hit for power is ridiculous.

"So you're up there thinking 'damage' at all times."
- MLB Network host, Mark DeRosa

"Why wouldn't I?"
- Josh Donaldson

- 1979AD


Just flipped it on. Jays have 7 strikeouts through three innings now!

Happ with 4 through two. Wonder if the sun is making it tough.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:57 PM ET
just another hit...ho-hum
3-1 Jays ..bottom of the order getting the runs

- senstroll

only hits....no homeruns and they are leading.
Gawd they are winning the bad way.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:58 PM ET
only hits....no homeruns and they are leading.
Gawd they are winning the bad way.

- Fakepartofme


Are you arguing that the team shouldn't try to hit home runs? Because there's a huge difference between scoring runs without homers and "small ball".
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:58 PM ET
kinda
it was 1B, BB, 2B, 2B ..doubles dont count as small ball according to the wikipedia page

- senstroll

screw wikipedia....doubles, hits...they all count.
Triples.....might be borderline.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 17 @ 1:59 PM ET
Are you arguing that the team shouldn't try to hit home runs?
- 1979AD

It was sarcasm.


And no Im not.

Small ball
general hits
homeruns

They are all important in winning....you cant rely on only one.
DamnBrasKiss
Joined: 04.10.2011

Aug 17 @ 2:02 PM ET
Are you arguing that the team shouldn't try to hit home runs? Because there's a huge difference between scoring runs without homers and "small ball".
- 1979AD


If you hit homeruns, statistics show that you (more often than not) cause your opposition to find weakness in their current game, and as such, make necessary changes which otherwise would not have taken place should they simply allow more base runs.

Yes, homeruns are bad.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Aug 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
Jvr
Ehlers
Conner

Great LW scoring right there with an added serviceable 3rd pairing with deadline asset and a prospect with potential.

The peg has a hard time getting players to play for there team so your not likely to get I high end winger through free agency. Jvr's contract fits perfectly with the big buff winning window, if such a thing exists.

- BrainSap
are you (frank)ing kidding me? No way in hell Winnepeg would ever do this.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Aug 17 @ 2:03 PM ET
It was sarcasm.


And no Im not.

Small ball
general hits
homeruns

They are all important in winning....you cant rely on only one.

- Fakepartofme


Agreed. There's not many players in the lineup you want to bunt or hit and run with. At the same time, I think the coaching staff should be getting the K masters like Smoak and Bossman Jr. to change their approach to try and put the ball in play in certain situations like runners on 2nd&3rd with <2 out.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 17 @ 2:07 PM ET
You never know. Look at chychrun (not even top 10), sergachev, provorov, hannifan, etc

All of those defensemen could have or did play on their rookie year IMO.

- RickJames77

Yeah I agree but rookie season would probably be sheltered and what not. If leafs can improve this season and fall somewhere in the 6 to 10 spot and have a dman as the bpa there that would be alright and the following season maybe improve to a bubble team, probably miss the playoffs again but hopefully at least be in the running. As long as the team is improving and the young guys are taking on bigger roles and getting better things will be going good. I have no problem with them selling rentals at the deadline again
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
Yeah I agree but rookie season would probably be sheltered and what not. If leafs can improve this season and fall somewhere in the 6 to 10 spot and have a dman as the bpa there that would be alright and the following season maybe improve to a bubble team, probably miss the playoffs again but hopefully at least be in the running. As long as the team is improving and the young guys are taking on bigger roles and getting better things will be going good. I have no problem with them selling rentals at the deadline again
- ClarksonDavid


Only one of those players listed has played in the NHL.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Aug 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
Only one of those players listed has played in the NHL.
- BINGO!

Yeah I know
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Aug 17 @ 2:09 PM ET
are you (frank)ing kidding me? No way in hell Winnepeg would ever do this.
- RickJames77

Good, Trouba sucks.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 17 @ 2:10 PM ET
Want Trouba? Come and get him. That'll be one Morgan Rielly, please.
HealthyScratch6
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.13.2014

Aug 17 @ 2:11 PM ET
Want Trouba? Come and get him. That'll be one Morgan Rielly, please.
- Rexypoo

Keep him and his 6m on your bottom pairing
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Aug 17 @ 2:11 PM ET
only hits....no homeruns and they are leading.
Gawd they are winning the bad way.

- Fakepartofme



Yankes getting back in the game with Homeruns
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 17 @ 2:13 PM ET
Some interesting stuff with the live tracking with the puck and players jerseys at World Cup.
- ClarksonDavid



Are they going to be doing this? I know they've bern looking at it for a while with things like the tracking of jerseys with chips and using specialized cameras to track players.
the_eye
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.22.2012

Aug 17 @ 2:13 PM ET
deserve worse, settle down!! it's all good, if you cant take someone running their flap stay off the internet, or route for another team
- Ross77

But can we still root for the Leafs?
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