I'm skeptical about Weise. He bad a good season with the Habs, followed by a trade to the Hawks where he was less than valuable to practically a dynasty team. I get this situation. Weise doesn't feel the Habs made a fair offer, so he moved elsewhere. I have no problem with this. However, if fans are gonna use the system excuse, how Weise didn't work in one of the most effective systems in the past 7 seasons, I'm a little concerned. The Flyers are all about system play these days. Also Weise played for a very fragile Habs team that couldn't win without one of the best goalies in the league healthy, in net and playing for them. This cannot be placed square on the shoulders of Weise but he was in that locker room and wanted to go back.
- roenick97

Roster depth had a huge impact on usage in Chicago. That team is stacked compared to Montreal. Here he will be another Raffl type. He'll move up and down depending on health of the team. I'd say look more at the Montreal Weise than the Chicago Weise.

As for Weise and term vs Streit and term you are comparing people with 10 years age difference. Weise don't have Streit's wear and tear on him. A four year deal is fine now for a 28 year old Weise vs a 4 year deal for a 34 (at the time) Streit.

Exactly
Plus we don't know if there were any other factors involved. He may not have liked playing in Montreal or playing for Therien. There may have been personal issues or it could have just been about money. There is no way to know the whole story unless the player chooses to make his reasons public, and that happens very rarely.
- BiggE

Should we tell him? I think we should tell him...

I'm skeptical about Weise. He bad a good season with the Habs, followed by a trade to the Hawks where he was less than valuable to practically a dynasty team. I get the situation. Weise doesn't feel the Habs made a fair offer, so he moved elsewhere. I have no problem with this. However, if fans are gonna use the system excuse, how Weise didn't work in one of the most effective systems in the past 7 seasons, I'm a little concerned. The Flyers are all about system play these days. Also Weise played for a very fragile Habs team that couldn't win without one of the best goalies in the league healthy, in net and playing for them. This cannot be placed square on the shoulders of Weise but he was in that locker room and wanted to go back.
- roenick97

He should fit in great

Roster depth had a huge impact on usage in Chicago. That team is stacked compared to Montreal. Here he will be another Raffl type. He'll move up and down depending on health of the team. I'd say look more at the Montreal Weise than the Chicago Weise.

As for Weise and term vs Streit and term you are comparing people with 10 years age difference. Weise don't have Streit's wear and tear on him. A four year deal is fine now for a 28 year old Weise vs a 4 year deal for a 34 (at the time) Streit.
- dragonoffrost

Chicago seems to have "their guys" and Q seems to play those guys into the ground. I wouldn't base too much on what Weise did in Chicago.

Also.....Weise's AAV is also lower than Streit's by half. Apples and bowling balls, when comparing Weise's contractual situation to Streit's.

Chicago seems to have "their guys" and Q seems to play those guys into the ground. I wouldn't base too much on what Weise did in Chicago.

Also.....Weise's AAV is also lower than Streit's by half. Apples and bowling balls, when comparing Weise's contractual situation to Streit's.
- johndewar

I think he was more worried about Weise at the end of the 4 year deal than he was speaking on AAV when he mentioned Streit. Which term isn't as much an issue when you are considering 32 vs 38 at the end of the deal...

And yes Q did seem to tend to roll the top 2 lines more than the bottom 2. But who wouldn't with those 2 lines.

I think he was more worried about Weise at the end of the 4 year deal than he was speaking on AAV when he mentioned Streit. Which term isn't as much an issue when you are considering 32 vs 38 at the end of the deal...

And yes Q did seem to tend to roll the top 2 lines more than the bottom 2. But who wouldn't with those 2 lines.
- dragonoffrost

I can see Wiese being an effective player for the Flyers, and a fan favorite.

I can see Wiese being an effective player for the Flyers, and a fan favorite.
- MJL

I have no prejudgement on Wiese. I've seen him play and he can fit very nicely in our roster. Q definitely had a overuse of Toews/Hossa and Panarin/Kane going. Hakstol rolls lines more which should benefit Wiese.

and BTW
http://www.broadstreethoc...e-to-sign-with-the-flyers

So Montreal had Dale Weise. They made a small offer to Weise. Weise rejected it and this is from a team he loved, from a team that knew him. Ouch.

http://www.hockeyfeed.com...oney-elsewhere?ref=justin
- roenick97

This is awkward....

http://sports.yahoo.com/m...eise-explains-why-he.html

This is awkward....

http://sports.yahoo.com/m...eise-explains-why-he.html
- jak521

Really awkward...

Oh and why does every topic here end up being a post on Broad Street Hockey in a close time frame?

Really awkward...

Oh and why does every topic here end up being a post on Broad Street Hockey in a close time frame?
- dragonoffrost

Hahah holy poop didnt even notice yours hahah

Hahah holy poop didnt even notice yours hahah

- jak521

Really awkward...

Oh and why does every topic here end up being a post on Broad Street Hockey in a close time frame?
- dragonoffrost

You smell a rat?

You smell a rat?

- YuenglingJagr

More like a



But Points scored for Jack

Awaits a post on sports science...

This is awkward....

http://sports.yahoo.com/m...eise-explains-why-he.html
- jak521

Agreed. If he thinks he's playing the second line, he's cray cray.

Agreed. If he thinks he's playing the second line, he's cray cray.
- roenick97

One injury to either Jake or Simmer and he is...

Agreed. If he thinks he's playing the second line, he's cray cray.
- roenick97

Maybe he's confident he can earn a 2nd line spot. woulndt be cray cray if he earns the spot with a great camp or if there's chemistry found with linemates

I can see Wiese being an effective player for the Flyers, and a fan favorite.
- MJL

I'm on the same page. I see him becoming well liked by the fans, team, and management. Seens like a good locker room guy too

This is awkward....

http://sports.yahoo.com/m...eise-explains-why-he.html
- jak521

Wait wait wait...

You're trying to tell me that he got multiple offers from other teams that were the same/about the same money-wise from the Flyers? Sounds like all of those teams like to overpay for bums like Weise, which can't be the case; only the Flyers make bad signings.

I'm on the same page. I see him becoming well liked by the fans, team, and management. Seens like a good locker room guy too
- arichardson22

I'm already a big fan because of the Lucic thing.

Agreed. If he thinks he's playing the second line, he's cray cray.
- roenick97

While I don't see Wiese being a regular on the 2nd line, Hakstol is going to be looking for balance through the lineup, which could mean Wiese could see some time in the top 6.

While I don't see Wiese being a regular on the 2nd line, Hakstol is going to be looking for balance through the lineup, which could mean Wiese could see some time in the top 6.
- MJL

If he decides to banish Jake to the PEB line again?

If he decides to banish Jake to the PEB line again?
- dragonoffrost

Raffl could play on any of the top 3 lines, so we'll see where he slots.

Raffl could play on any of the top 3 lines, so we'll see where he slots.
- MJL

Raffl is left wing. Wiese is right wing.

Raffl is left wing. Wiese is right wing.
- dragonoffrost

Raffl can also play center, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wiese plays some on the left side, even though he is traditionally a RW. Injuries also can happen.