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SnipeDevil6
Joined: 08.16.2016

Aug 16 @ 5:28 PM ET
If we get Vesey we could slide Cammelleri up to that top line RW. He is versatile and he can play anywhere he is asked to play. He would love to play with Hall and Henrique. Vesey, if he is ready, can slot into that second line LW with Zajac and Palms. Boucher-Zacha-Bennett, Josefson-Fiddler-Dsp (any of these guys can be swapped with Kalinin) Blandisi I foresee playing in Albany but he could take one of these bottom 6 roles also. Lets hope he signs in NJ.

Hall-Henrique-Cammelleri
Vesey-Zajac-Palmieri
Boucher-Zacha-Bennett
Josefson-Fiddler-DSP

Who knows.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 16 @ 5:45 PM ET
CSN seems to think its a race between the Rangers and Devils for Vesey. With CHI possibly having a shot. Doesn't really think any of the others have a chance. Hopefully he sees Lundquist as declining in the next two years and Schneider just starting a new contract with NJ and sees us as the better option at this point.

http://www.csnne.com/gall...-jimmy-vesey-sweeptstakes

- SnipeDevil6


I'm gonna lose my poop if it comes down to us or the Rangers and we get beat out!
SnipeDevil6
Joined: 08.16.2016

Aug 16 @ 5:47 PM ET
I'm gonna lose my poop if it comes down to us or the Rangers and we get beat out!
- Queenie_5_hole


I hate when I lose my poop.
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 16 @ 5:51 PM ET
I'm gonna lose my poop if it comes down to us or the Rangers and we get beat out!
- Queenie_5_hole

Worst possible outcome
Devils622
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.31.2006

Aug 16 @ 6:14 PM ET
I think the Devils are going to package two of our wingers for a defenseman especially if we sign Vesey.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Aug 16 @ 6:34 PM ET
I think the Devils are going to package two of our wingers for a defenseman especially if we sign Vesey.
- Devils622


We dont really have the depth up front to do that

Palm, henrique, hall wont be traded
I doubt we could move cam
We just signed dsp so he will stay
Boucher and blandisi wont bring much

I think it is either sign a vet or pto
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 16 @ 6:39 PM ET
We dont really have the depth up front to do that

Palm, henrique, hall wont be traded
I doubt we could move cam
We just signed dsp so he will stay
Boucher and blandisi wont bring much

I think it is either sign a vet or pto

- dmarsden2988

I could see jackman on a pto
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 6:44 PM ET
This is why he probably thinks that:

http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s...st-final-ranking-1.294692

- Senor_Elias



He's probably right with those rankings. Provorov was the pick there.
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 16 @ 6:50 PM ET
He's probably right with those rankings. Provorov was the pick there.
- Mr.Bobby

Zacha at 24th though?
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 7:00 PM ET
Zacha at 24th though?
- K-dizzle



If I remember the consensus was somewhere around 14 or 15, I'll see if I can look it up.

The rankings there though are a bit out there. Kyle Connor rated way higher than anyone had him and Hanifin way lower.

There were 4 "power forwards" that were probably a toss up at the draft were teams had them rated with Zacha, Rantanen, Crouse and Meier. I wouldn't be surprosed if Zacha winds up the best of the bunch, or the worst for that matter. Zachas injury/ suspension hurt him a lot in his draft year.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 16 @ 7:32 PM ET
If I remember the consensus was somewhere around 14 or 15, I'll see if I can look it up.

The rankings there though are a bit out there. Kyle Connor rated way higher than anyone had him and Hanifin way lower.

There were 4 "power forwards" that were probably a toss up at the draft were teams had them rated with Zacha, Rantanen, Crouse and Meier. I wouldn't be surprosed if Zacha winds up the best of the bunch, or the worst for that matter. Zachas injury/ suspension hurt him a lot in his draft year.

- Mr.Bobby

Most had zacha ranked 6-11
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 7:36 PM ET
Most had zacha ranked 6-11
- shvingter88



Was looking, highest I could find him was 8 by central scouting.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 16 @ 7:56 PM ET
Was looking, highest I could find him was 8 by central scouting.
- Mr.Bobby

http://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid...al-draft-ranking-1.300634

The only guy to take seriously with rankings. Button is an idiot.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 8:00 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/mcdavid-tops-mckenzie-s-final-draft-ranking-1.300634

The only guy to take seriously with rankings. Button is an idiot.

- shvingter88



Had Blackwood at #35 too. Gotta disagree with the Provorov ranking though.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Aug 16 @ 11:17 PM ET
Had Blackwood at #35 too. Gotta disagree with the Provorov ranking though.
- Mr.Bobby

how can you disagree with rankings of prospects. you literally have no idea if the player will be good or not. it's not like one is already proven the better pick. this is an inane thought process.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 11:30 PM ET
how can you disagree with rankings of prospects. you literally have no idea if the player will be good or not. it's not like one is already proven the better pick. this is an inane thought process.
- Pomegrant


http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=242584

Guys puts up that kind of performance in his draft year and you're allowed to think he should have been rated higher. It's also usually a pretty good indication that they player "will be good".

But you're right we should talk about something else, I know let's talk more about Vesey. That's far less "inane".

Do you ever contribute anything to a discussion besides coming into a thread and acting like a jerk off? Just curious.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 16 @ 11:34 PM ET
http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=242584

Guys puts up that kind of performance in his draft year and you're allowed to think he should have been rated higher. It's also usually a pretty good indication that they player "will be good".

But you're right we should talk about something else, I know let's talk more about Vesey. That's far less "inane".

Do you ever contribute anything to a discussion besides coming into a thread and acting like a jerk off? Just curious.

- Mr.Bobby

You sir are out of line
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 11:35 PM ET
You sir are out of line
- shvingter88



I haven't had a scolding like that in quite some time.
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Aug 16 @ 11:37 PM ET
the idea that you're a knowledgeable scout is the illusion of creating content where as I know that I don't provide anything. It's about awareness.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 11:41 PM ET
the idea that you're a knowledgeable scout is the illusion of creating content where as I know that I don't provide anything. It's about awareness.
- Pomegrant



You are correct, no one should voice an opinion, or even worse favor one player over another on a hockey comment board. I stand corrected, I retract my previous commentary all prospects in the league are equal. As a matter of fact Ryan Kujawinskis probably got just about as good a shot of making the NHL as Provorov.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 16 @ 11:46 PM ET
You are correct, no one should voice an opinion, or even worse favor one player over another on a hockey comment board. I stand corrected, I retract my previous commentary all prospects in the league are equal. As a matter of fact Ryan Kujawinskis probably got just about as good a shot of making the NHL as Provorov.
- Mr.Bobby

Should have drafted Lemieux
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 11:47 PM ET
Should have drafted Lemieux
- shvingter88



We will rue the day that we let Lemieux slip by.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Aug 16 @ 11:49 PM ET
EVERYBODY JUST CALM DOWN
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

Aug 16 @ 11:49 PM ET
Surely you understand that it's way easier to figure out things after the fact rather than in the present. So the prospect that hasn't developed into anything meaningful in years has less stock than the player who was drafted two drafts ago.

You're also confused about the point. Things aren't proven unless shown proven. Prospects are good until they do something. Which is the point of the word prospect. It's not a hard concept to understand.
Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Aug 16 @ 11:52 PM ET
Surely you understand that it's way easier to figure out things after the fact rather than in the present. So the prospect that hasn't developed into anything meaningful in years has less stock than the player who was drafted two drafts ago.

You're also confused about the point. Things aren't proven unless shown proven. Prospects are good until they do something. Which is the point of the word prospect. It's not a hard concept to understand.

- Pomegrant



Indeed, we should use the dartboard theory, instead of looking at performance. All things are always equal.
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