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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 9:10 AM ET
So where did we land on Gudas? in NHL 17 is he an OFD, DFD, or TWD
- YuenglingJagr


Torn between DVD, LSD OR PCP
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 9:11 AM ET
Great post Bill, fans often set unreasonably high expectations for these kids. What many fail to understand is that even if they do reach their peak projections it can often take 3 or 4 NHL seasons, not even including the time spent at lower levels, to reach those expectations.

You just have to be patient, its not sexy or fun, but it's the smart way to go.

- BiggE




BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 9:12 AM ET



- jmatchett383

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Aug 16 @ 9:12 AM ET
Why would he want to play here with a bunch of second rate slugs? We are the worst team in the history of the entire NHL and we have no hope for turning things around.
- jak521


Nope. That can't be it. I see the Leafs, Devils, and Sabres are on the list of teams in the mix.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 16 @ 9:15 AM ET
Great post Bill, fans often set unreasonably high expectations for these kids. What many fail to understand is that even if they do reach their peak projections it can often take 3 or 4 NHL seasons, not even including the time spent at lower levels, to reach those expectations.

You just have to be patient, its not sexy or fun, but it's the smart way to go.

- BiggE


smart is sexy :D
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 16 @ 9:20 AM ET
I can't remember the last time the Flyers landed a coveted college free agent.

Because my memory only goes back three months.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 9:22 AM ET
I can't remember the Flyers landed a coveted college free agent.

Because my memory only goes back three months.

- Feanor

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 16 @ 9:29 AM ET
Nope. That can't be it. I see the Leafs, Devils, and Sabres are on the list of teams in the mix.
- PLindbergh31

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 16 @ 9:47 AM ET

- PhillySportsGuy


Settle down Veruca
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 9:55 AM ET
I can't remember the last time the Flyers landed a coveted college free agent.

Because my memory only goes back three months.

- Feanor


Something something worst organization ever, something something all busts, something something should have lost intentionally, something something horrible coaching hire
Pyzik
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Flemington, NJ
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 16 @ 9:55 AM ET
Pease drop names. I can actually think of three, although I think one has a lifetime ban on here.
- jmatchett383


I prefer to not drop names, honestly it's pointless.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 16 @ 9:56 AM ET
Something something worst organization ever, something something all busts, something something should have lost intentionally, something something horrible coaching hire
- jmatchett383


ruins team, gets promoted
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 10:00 AM ET
ruins team, gets promoted
- YuenglingJagr


I mean, the guy has never won an NCAA championship, how good can he really be?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 10:01 AM ET
I prefer to not drop names, honestly it's pointless.
- Pyzik


I will destroy all of your fish!
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Aug 16 @ 10:02 AM ET
Not saying Veasey is going to be the next 30 goal scorer but it is a little weird you don't see more players interested in Philly. Philly will have money coming off the books and a pipeline of defense prospects. If I was a forward that would interest me. Roster spots are going to be opening and Philly is a big market to play in.

I guess to each their own but I would think Philly should be an attractive place compared to some others mentioned.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 16 @ 10:04 AM ET
Not saying Veasey is going to be the next 30 goal scorer but it is a little weird you don't see more players interested in Philly. Philly will have money coming off the books and a pipeline of defense prospects. If I was a forward that would interest me. Roster spots are going to be opening and Philly is a big market to play in.

I guess to each their own but I would think Philly should be an attractive place compared to some others mentioned.

- J35Bacher


He isnt from Philly and his dad doesnt work in Philly. The rumors come from "sources" or speculation and ever since Hextall took over the Philly front office has always worked quietly...there is no reason to try to concoct a narrative that isn't realistic
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 10:05 AM ET
Not saying Veasey is going to be the next 30 goal scorer but it is a little weird you don't see more players interested in Philly. Philly will have money coming off the books and a pipeline of defense prospects. If I was a forward that would interest me. Roster spots are going to be opening and Philly is a big market to play in.

I guess to each their own but I would think Philly should be an attractive place compared to some others mentioned.

- J35Bacher


http://www.csnphilly.com/...lyon-entry-level-contract
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Aug 16 @ 10:09 AM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-flyers/flyers-sign-yale-goalie-alex-lyon-entry-level-contract
- jmatchett383



Good play. I forgot they did sign him.

I guess with the college Fa it is hard. I mean Veasy had a great season but he is 24 already so you almost assume he should dominate younger players in the NCAA.

Cole Bardreau could be a nice signing in the long run. I think he could get a 4th line shot and provides more speed and skill.

I just find it funny NJ is listed as a landing spot. Really.

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 16 @ 10:11 AM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-flyers/flyers-sign-yale-goalie-alex-lyon-entry-level-contract
- jmatchett383


But we did lose out on the guy who went to school where our coach was the guy who they all love.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 10:11 AM ET
Not saying Veasey is going to be the next 30 goal scorer but it is a little weird you don't see more players interested in Philly. Philly will have money coming off the books and a pipeline of defense prospects. If I was a forward that would interest me. Roster spots are going to be opening and Philly is a big market to play in.

I guess to each their own but I would think Philly should be an attractive place compared to some others mentioned.

- J35Bacher


You have to remember that the money is going to be the same wherever he signs, so it really comes down to other factors. In this kids case, his dad works for the Leafs, his mom is pushing him to sign with Boston (his hometown) and who knows what other factors are playing into. A team like Chicago could have Toews on the phone with him saying why don't you come here and win a Cup, sadly, the Pens could be having Crosby doing the same.

When it comes to Philly, at least right now, they aren't going to be able to make the case that they are a legit Cup contender in 16-17, nor will Hextall or Hak guarantee the kid a top 6 spot, just a chance to earn it in camp, and the kid has no connection of any type to our area.

Philly, IMO, is still a very attractive organization to most NHL players and a place guys want to play, however, I don't think we will be a factor when it comes to this kid.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 10:12 AM ET
But we did lose out on the guy who went to school where our coach was the guy who they all love.
- dragonoffrost


Parise, 4 years before we hired Hak???

Oh, also, Matt Read, we signed him, too.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 16 @ 10:12 AM ET
Parise, 4 years before we hired Hak???

Oh, also, Matt Read, we signed him, too.

- jmatchett383


Caligula!

And I know the reason pretty much is what BiggE said above
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Aug 16 @ 10:14 AM ET
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Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 24m24 minutes ago

I believe the Pittsburgh Penguins will meet with Jimmy Vesey today.

Anyone know when the Flyers are meeting with him?

- PLindbergh31



Hey at least we never tanked in the past 40 years. Pens fans can't say that and they've filled their 4 cups with tears of tanking and many losses 30 years ago to the flyers
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 16 @ 10:15 AM ET
Caligula!
- dragonoffrost


Ah. Well, if the Flyers don't sign every free agent, they're obviously on the poop list.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 16 @ 10:15 AM ET
http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-flyers/flyers-sign-yale-goalie-alex-lyon-entry-level-contract
- jmatchett383


You see the 3 articles on the left

1. Flyers comfortable with Schenn contract

2. Panotch "not so sure" Schenn is worth the contract

3. Panotch Schenn will produce
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