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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 3:30 PM ET
I agree, there is always room for improvement. His skill level is only going to take him so far.
- MJL

His shot is a bit of an enigma to me. I dont wanna say his 5 goals in the second half of the season was a fluke, because he does have a decent shot, but most of them were seeing eye type shots. I guess he just has an inconsistent shot. Added bonus being that he is right handed.

I think he will settle in at about 4-6 goals and 15-20 assists a year while playing that physical brand of defense.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 3:31 PM ET
Not to mention AMac's deal is superrrr poopty. We can only tie but so much money up long term into any D not named Ghost or Provorov moving forward.

I'm praying that the Vegas team needs to take a deal like his to keep them over the cap floor.

- mochoson


not picking on you, but it's another misconception...they dont need to reach the cap floor...just need to get to 60% of the cap
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 3:34 PM ET
His shot is a bit of an enigma to me. I dont wanna say his 5 goals in the second half of the season was a fluke, because he does have a decent shot, but most of them were seeing eye type shots. I guess he just has an inconsistent shot. Added bonus being that he is right handed.

I think he will settle in at about 4-6 goals and 15-20 assists a year while playing that physical brand of defense.

- jak521


Really the only thing I think he should be required to improve is his hit selection. He would take himself out of plays a lot looking to make a hit and leaving the team exposed. It was something that irked me throughout the season because every little mistake Medvedev made was thought of as him being an idiot that couldnt adapt to the NHL, but Gudas putting himself out of position wasnt too big of a deal because at least he hit somebody! I know there is more to it all, but both of them had a positive possession impact as well. I just found it a little odd that it didnt seem to make a difference for Gudas
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 3:34 PM ET
His shot is a bit of an enigma to me. I dont wanna say his 5 goals in the second half of the season was a fluke, because he does have a decent shot, but most of them were seeing eye type shots. I guess he just has an inconsistent shot. Added bonus being that he is right handed.

I think he will settle in at about 4-6 goals and 15-20 assists a year while playing that physical brand of defense.

- jak521


Offense fron Gudas is a bonus. Just want him to play well defensively, add a physical presence, keep his game simple, and move the puck well. Hopefully he limits the suspensions and issues like that.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Aug 15 @ 3:35 PM ET
not picking on you, but it's another misconception...they dont need to reach the cap floor...just need to get to 60% of the cap
- YuenglingJagr


Yes, 60% of the cap floor from 30 players will be very easy to get to. There's no need for them to take any bad contracts.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 15 @ 3:54 PM ET
Really the only thing I think he should be required to improve is his hit selection. He would take himself out of plays a lot looking to make a hit and leaving the team exposed. It was something that irked me throughout the season because every little mistake Medvedev made was thought of as him being an idiot that couldnt adapt to the NHL, but Gudas putting himself out of position wasnt too big of a deal because at least he hit somebody! I know there is more to it all, but both of them had a positive possession impact as well. I just found it a little odd that it didnt seem to make a difference for Gudas
- YuenglingJagr


Yeah, my biggest pet peeve with Rads (that's what I call him!) is when people say he's good defensively. He's a good d man, but his defensive coverage can be a mess. Frankly, I'm not sure he should even be on the PK if we had better d men in that regard. He's an offensive d man who is physical.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 4:14 PM ET
Yeah, my biggest pet peeve with Rads (that's what I call him!) is when people say he's good defensively. He's a good d man, but his defensive coverage can be a mess. Frankly, I'm not sure he should even be on the PK if we had better d men in that regard. He's an offensive d man who is physical.
- Mononoke



If Gudas is an offensive defenseman, we're in trouble. In my opinion Gudas is a physical defensive defenseman, with decent mobility, and decent puck skills.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 15 @ 4:27 PM ET
If Gudas is an offensive defenseman, we're in trouble. In my opinion Gudas is a physical defensive defenseman, with decent mobility, and decent puck skills.
- MJL


That's nice
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 15 @ 4:33 PM ET
If Gudas is an offensive defenseman, we're in trouble. In my opinion Gudas is a physical defensive defenseman, with decent mobility, and decent puck skills.
- MJL

So he's a defensive defenseman with puck skills interesting...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 4:40 PM ET
So he's a defensive defenseman with puck skills interesting...
- 2Real


The criteria for being an offensive or defensive defensman is the # of goals a guy scores
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 15 @ 4:47 PM ET
The criteria for being an offensive or defensive defensman is the # of goals a guy scores
- YuenglingJagr


Subban, Brodie, Yandle, Krug...defensive defensemen. I will need time to digest this.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 4:49 PM ET
Subban, Brodie, Yandle...defensive defensemen with puck skills. I will need time to digest this.
- Mononoke


FTFY
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Aug 15 @ 4:49 PM ET
The criteria for being an offensive or defensive defensman is the # of goals a guy scores
- YuenglingJagr

poor matt carle
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 15 @ 4:50 PM ET
FTFY
- YuenglingJagr


All I can think of right now is that World Cup commercial with "Reg" asking McDonagh if he's a defense man or an offense man.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 4:52 PM ET
All I can think of right now is that World Cup commercial with "Reg" asking McDonagh if he's a defense man or an offense man.
- Mononoke


Thats the old method of determining offensive/defensive designations
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 15 @ 4:57 PM ET
not picking on you, but it's another misconception...they dont need to reach the cap floor...just need to get to 60% of the cap
- YuenglingJagr


I'm aware of that, but I find it hard to believe the team is only going to acquire and spend just over $43.8m in cap hits. I cant imagine the NHL would be to pleased if they did so, either.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 4:59 PM ET
I've but only glanced at the games played requirements for exposed players. Personally, I think he's gonna be the 6/7 guy this year. Manning will challenge him for ice time. I also think Morin is very close, but is more likely to be the first injury call-up than make the team out of camp.

Contrary to popular opinion, I also think Robert Hagg will have a much better season and compete with Morin for the first injury call up. I see both eventually playing games for the Flyers. Not sure what I'd rate the chances, but I could definitely see MDZ being moved at some point this year depending on his value and where the Flyers are in the standings.

- mochoson


MacDonald could spend the entire season in the AHL and the Flyers could expose him.

The criteria is any player with more than two seasons of North American professional experience either has to be protected or exposed. MacDonald obviously has that.

The games played requirement is different. Teams must expose at least one defenseman who is signed through 2017-18, and played at least 40 games in 2016-17 or 70 games in 2015-16 & 2016-17 combined. That doesn't mean a guy has to meet that criteria to be exposed.

With Manning signed to a 2 year extension, all he needs is to play 14 games and he meets the criteria, since he played 56 games last season.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 15 @ 5:00 PM ET
Yes, 60% of the cap floor from 30 players will be very easy to get to. There's no need for them to take any bad contracts.
- Feanor


It's 60% of the ceiling, not the floor, no?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 5:03 PM ET
It's 60% of the ceiling, not the floor, no?
- mochoson


correct...they wont have any issue getting to it, but it's not likely that they will have to take a contract to get to that salary minimum. they should also have their pick of bloated contracts to choose from. It is actual salary on AMac's contract that is a big issue
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 5:04 PM ET
not picking on you, but it's another misconception...they dont need to reach the cap floor...just need to get to 60% of the cap
- YuenglingJagr


During the season they will have to reach the salary floor.

However for the draft they must select contracts totaling at least 60% of the cap
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 15 @ 5:04 PM ET
MacDonald could spend the entire season in the AHL and the Flyers could expose him.

The criteria is any player with more than two seasons of North American professional experience either has to be protected or exposed. MacDonald obviously has that.

The games played requirement is different. Teams must expose at least one defenseman who is signed through 2017-18, and played at least 40 games in 2016-17 or 70 games in 2015-16 & 2016-17 combined. That doesn't mean a guy has to meet that criteria to be exposed.

With Manning signed to a 2 year extension, all he needs is to play 14 games and he meets the criteria, since he played 56 games last season.

- Jsaquella


I realized my misunderstanding here was that I was not aware you only need 1 defensemen to meet the criteria. I thought it was at least two, but as I said, I've only glanced at this stuff. It's just to far away for me to care enough. I got the basics of what's going down though.
Philly2088
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2009

Aug 15 @ 5:05 PM ET
Yes, 60% of the cap floor from 30 players will be very easy to get to. There's no need for them to take any bad contracts.
- Feanor

How many years are they at 60%? Just the first year I assume ?
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 15 @ 5:06 PM ET
correct...they wont have any issue getting to it, but it's not likely that they will have to take a contract to get to that salary minimum. they should also have their pick of bloated contracts to choose from. It is actual salary on AMac's contract that is a big issue
- YuenglingJagr


So we likely to be one of Raffl, Weise, or Read? So basically Raffl or Weise.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 5:07 PM ET
I realized my misunderstanding here was that I was not aware you only need 1 defensemen to meet the criteria. I thought it was at least two, but as I said, I've only glanced at this stuff. It's just to far away for me to care enough. I got the basics of what's going down though.
- mochoson


Yup. Prior to the release of the actual rules, there was speculation that they'd have to expose two guys or other different alignments. Vegas should still be a fairly competitive team-i.e. not the Senators or Sharks in their first years-for an expansion team
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 15 @ 5:07 PM ET
How many years are they at 60%? Just the first year I assume ?
- Philly2088


The 60% is only for the draft itself. They still have to reach the salary floor during the season.
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