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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
http://www.broadstreethoc...nger-comparison-nhl-draft
- YuenglingJagr


Poor Tyler Myers compared to Pronger and Lidstrom.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
Hedman is awfully close. He isn't as mean as Pronger by a long shot as Pronger was somewhat of a sadist. But the skills and physicality (to a point) are there.
- MBFlyerfan


Hedman is close and yes Prongers grin after giving someone the business was a classic.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 15 @ 12:48 PM ET
Hedman is close and yes Prongers grin after giving someone the business was a classic.
- dragonoffrost


The last guy in the NHL who came close to the skill/nastiness to his game like Pronger was Shea "Odin-son" Weber, and neither his skill or mean streak were on Pronger's level. Chara was up there, too, but he never "pulled a Zetterberg" on a guy, unless you ask a Montreal fan.

Fun fact: Despite having the ability to grow one, Chris Pronger never ever had a playoff beard, at least from his Edmonton days onward.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 15 @ 12:55 PM ET
I still believe they plan to do some sort of mystical soul swap to put Pronger's spirit into Morin
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 15 @ 12:57 PM ET
think I referred to Gudas as "Blueline Rinaldo".

I might have been a tad off on that assessment.

- JohnDewar"


Had to go back and view the carnage lol... discovered this hilarious gem from that day:

MacDonald is a much better player.
- MJL


Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 15 @ 1:11 PM ET
morin has got to be about 30 at this point right?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 15 @ 1:13 PM ET
morin has got to be about 30 at this point right?
- Crimsoninja



Total bust
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
His fancy numbers aren't good.

He hits too much.

Trade him he doesn't fit the mold.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 15 @ 1:39 PM ET
His fancy numbers aren't good.

He hits too much.

Trade him he doesn't fit the mold.

- flyer_nutter


His fancy numbers were the best on the team
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 15 @ 1:39 PM ET
I still believe they plan to do some sort of mystical soul swap to put Pronger's spirit into Morin
- BulliesPhan87

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 15 @ 1:39 PM ET
His fancy numbers aren't good.

He hits too much.

Trade him he doesn't fit the mold.

- flyer_nutter




The corgi from Fenway park says so.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 15 @ 1:40 PM ET
His fancy numbers were the best on the team
- PhillySportsGuy

Man. I thought physically imposing players weren't allowed to play that way.

(frank) the Gudas haters. I don't want a wussy team.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Aug 15 @ 1:42 PM ET
Man. I thought physically imposing players weren't allowed to play that way.

(frank) the Gudas haters. I don't want a wussy team.

- flyer_nutter


A myth created in order to make excuses for players like Grossmann and Schultz
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 15 @ 1:48 PM ET
A myth created in order to make excuses for players like Grossmann and Schultz
- PhillySportsGuy


Are you saying that a player can be skilled AND a physical force?

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 15 @ 1:54 PM ET
Are you saying that a player can be skilled AND a physical force?
- flyer_nutter



I'm a Gudas fan and like him as a player, but skilled is not an adjective I would use to describe him as a player. In their prime, I'd take both Grossmann and Schultz over Gudas.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
Man. I thought physically imposing players weren't allowed to play that way.

(frank) the Gudas haters. I don't want a wussy team.

- flyer_nutter


Part of the reason his numbers are so good is because he just launches shots from almost anywhere at almost any time. I am not saying it's a good or bad thing, but it certainly helps the SAT %'s
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Aug 15 @ 2:10 PM ET
I'm a Gudas fan and like him as a player, but skilled is not an adjective I would use to describe him as a player. In their prime, I'd take both Grossmann and Schultz over Gudas.
- MJL

Is it fair to suggest that the young defender is still trending upward in his development? Seeing how this was only his second full season (he played in parts of 4 seasons) in the NHL I think there may be some kinks he can work out through playing.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 15 @ 2:19 PM ET
I'd say trade will get that space before sending AMac down. Seeing as we should be talking Ivan made the team in that instance.

Maybe if Ivan and Sam make the team then AMac goes to Lehigh. But that means we had a crazy camp that I don't see happening.

- dragonoffrost


I don't see AMac going down right away. We need him eligible for the expansion draft.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:21 PM ET
I don't see AMac going down right away. We need him eligible for the expansion draft.
- mochoson


Or Manning
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:23 PM ET
I don't see AMac going down right away. We need him eligible for the expansion draft.
- mochoson


...he can go to LHV and still get drafted
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:26 PM ET
...he can go to LHV and still get drafted
- YuenglingJagr


has to qualify for the 40/70 rules still I think.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:29 PM ET
has to qualify for the 40/70 rules still I think.
- dragonoffrost


no the flyers just need someone that qualifies...as you said...Manning
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Aug 15 @ 2:31 PM ET
...he can go to LHV and still get drafted
- YuenglingJagr


I've but only glanced at the games played requirements for exposed players. Personally, I think he's gonna be the 6/7 guy this year. Manning will challenge him for ice time. I also think Morin is very close, but is more likely to be the first injury call-up than make the team out of camp.

Contrary to popular opinion, I also think Robert Hagg will have a much better season and compete with Morin for the first injury call up. I see both eventually playing games for the Flyers. Not sure what I'd rate the chances, but I could definitely see MDZ being moved at some point this year depending on his value and where the Flyers are in the standings.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:33 PM ET
no the flyers just need someone that qualifies...as you said...Manning
- YuenglingJagr

But Manning also needs to qualify still too
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 15 @ 2:35 PM ET
Not sure what I'd rate the chances, but I could definitely see MDZ being moved at some point this year depending on his value and where the Flyers are in the standings.
- mochoson


I see Streit and Schultz as the trade options. I think they want MDZ around for a few more years while the kids come through the system.
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