There is no tampering. Just cause his father is part of the organization dosnt mean there's tampering. Well... I'm sure his father has and is talking to him about the leafs..but there is no way anyone can prove that and if a son can't talk to his father than something is seriously wrong with some people's minds

Sup Garth.

Really, you too are going to assign odds based on pure speculation.

So Leafs at 2:1 based on.....?

His father and bro are there....How do you even know he gets along with his family?
Babcock enticement........You guys laugh at how Sabres fans use the link between Eichel and V as one (among many) incentives yet you list a coach that he has no connection to....you really think he gives a flying F about his coach?
Lastly......top 6 playing time....not sure if you've heard but I'm pretty sure every team in on Vesey is offering top 6 playing time (at least to start.....what he makes of it is up to him to keep it).

Very poor arguments to support 2:1 odds.
- nikel

It really bothers you, and that makes me happy.

It really bothers you, and that makes me happy.
- Aetherial

oh.

Do you work as a janitor and solve half finished equations on classroom chalk boards?
- RickJames77

I Do!









... well, some of that.

oh.

Do you work as a janitor and solve half finished equations on classroom chalk boards?
- RickJames77

oh.

Do you work as a janitor and solve half finished equations on classroom chalk boards?
- RickJames77

It really bothers you, and that makes me happy.
- Aetherial

Sup Garth.

Really, you too are going to assign odds based on pure speculation.

So Leafs at 2:1 based on.....?

His father and bro are there....How do you even know he gets along with his family?
Babcock enticement........You guys laugh at how Sabres fans use the link between Eichel and V as one (among many) incentives yet you list a coach that he has no connection to....you really think he gives a flying F about his coach?
Lastly......top 6 playing time....not sure if you've heard but I'm pretty sure every team in on Vesey is offering top 6 playing time (at least to start.....what he makes of it is up to him to keep it).

Very poor arguments to support 2:1 odds.
- nikel

His father is actually in the Boston area. He's a Toronto scout, but he doesn't live in Toronto.

Like all other teams, Vesey having interest in Toronto, AND Toronto having interest in Vesey is all conjecture.

At this point in time, here's all we know:

Buffalo is interested in signing Vesey, and to date Vesey is not interested in signing in Buffalo - at least not yet.

Everything else is speculation, although if you read what Vesey has said, you'd have to at least consider the possibility that Vesey wants to play in Boston.

The end.

you are dealing from an area of shallow depth (top 6 forwards) to obtain a talent in an area of depth (left handed offensive d man)

how does that trade make sense?
- Dozzer

I dont think it matters what hand they shoot as much as you do i guess..

I see it more as they need to upgrade D and have a lot of F.... No one is going to give up more than ths proposal for JVR.. And i doubt they keep him longterm..

Sup Garth.

Really, you too are going to assign odds based on pure speculation.

So Leafs at 2:1 based on.....?

His father and bro are there....How do you even know he gets along with his family?
Babcock enticement........You guys laugh at how Sabres fans use the link between Eichel and V as one (among many) incentives yet you list a coach that he has no connection to....you really think he gives a flying F about his coach?
Lastly......top 6 playing time....not sure if you've heard but I'm pretty sure every team in on Vesey is offering top 6 playing time (at least to start.....what he makes of it is up to him to keep it).

Very poor arguments to support 2:1 odds.
- nikel

Shouldn't you be slowly weaning yourself off the Sabres?

try not to cry about your wasted pick
- Dozzer

I dont think it matters what hand they shoot as much as you do i guess..

I see it more as they need to upgrade D and have a lot of F.... No one is going to give up more than ths proposal for JVR.. And i doubt they keep him longterm..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

....and how do you know this?

Shouldn't you be slowly weaning yourself off the Sabres smoking crack?
- Atomic Wedgie

I dont think it matters what hand they shoot as much as you do i guess..

I see it more as they need to upgrade D and have a lot of F.... No one is going to give up more than ths proposal for JVR.. And i doubt they keep him longterm..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

2

2 legitimate top 6 forwards on the leafs

and you want to trade one for a d man that we already have a better version of in rielly?

makes no sense whatsoever

....and how do you know this?
- Fakepartofme

what kind of return would you reasonably expect?

You guys are underrating Fowler (or overrating JVR)..

2

2 legitimate top 6 forwards on the leafs

and you want to trade one for a d man that we already have a better version of in rielly?

makes no sense whatsoever
- Dozzer

So you are OK with leaving Reichel rotting on the Marlies?

You cold-hearted bastard.

Gonna be an awkward Christmas dinner this year in the extended Dozzer household, I'm guessing.

what kind of return would you reasonably expect?

You guys are underrating Fowler (or overrating JVR)..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

why are you so high on fowler anyways?

he's better han average but he isnt great by any means

Fowler +....

And offload a bad contract.. ONLY IF WE HAVE VESEY LINED UP..

Let's not forget half the deal everytime..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Cam Fowler (imo) isn't as good as people on the Leafs thread are making him out to be. 17 of his 28 points came on the PP last season. Meaning 5 of 5 he was as productive as the likes of Polak and Hunwick.

Trading the only player we have to have ever scored 30 goals with the Leafs is a strange idea. To say Vesey (who's never played an NHL game before in his life) can somewhat replace JVR is also without thought.

Leafs LW depth suddenly becomes tasty with:
Komarov
Martin
Greening
Holland/Rychel.

Pretty much disastrous any way you shake it

So you are OK with leaving Reichel rotting on the Marlies?

You cold-hearted bastard.

Gonna be an awkward Christmas dinner this year in the extended Dozzer household, I'm guessing.
- Atomic Wedgie

wrong reichel lol

rychel is my family

and yes... i think he should start wit the marlies to acclimatize himself to the leafs systems

what kind of return would you reasonably expect?

You guys are underrating Fowler (or overrating JVR)..
- Arctic_AARDVARK

or vice versa.

Fowler is an average dman....Im sure there are better options to be had if JVR is to be moved.

There is no tampering. Just cause his father is part of the organization dosnt mean there's tampering. Well... I'm sure his father has and is talking to him about the leafs..but there is no way anyone can prove that and if a son can't talk to his father than something is seriously wrong with some people's minds
- Santo_44

Everybody tampers, as long as you're not Jim Benning and hold conferences specifically discussing how you're tampering you should be ok

2

2 legitimate top 6 forwards on the leafs

and you want to trade one for a d man that we already have a better version of in rielly?

makes no sense whatsoever
- Dozzer

Kadri
Matthews
Nylander

Pretty sure these guys will be legit.. If you dont think so that fine..

It about maximizing a return for JVR.. Leafs wont be in a position to contend for the next couple years anyways.. Im not itching to trade JVR, but i also dont see any real good reason to keep him.

Kadri
Matthews
Nylander

Pretty sure these guys will be legit.. If you dont think so that fine..

It about maximizing a return for JVR.. Leafs wont be in a position to contend for the next couple years anyways.. Im not itching to trade JVR, but i also dont see any real good reason to keep him.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Kadri is not a top line center.
Matthews and Nylander havent proving to be top line players either.

they may be....but they arent now.

So do the Jays stay in first place?

Does Miami take a flyer on A-Rod as they've hinted towards in a presser yesterday?

Enough of this JVR trading talk. It's asinine to think it'll happen this year.

Kadri
Matthews
Nylander

Pretty sure these guys will be legit.. If you dont think so that fine..

It about maximizing a return for JVR.. Leafs wont be in a position to contend for the next couple years anyways.. Im not itching to trade JVR, but i also dont see any real good reason to keep him.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

of those 3 only kadri has proven himself

dont go all edmonton on us... nylander and matthews still havent proven a damn thing