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Hawkster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec , QC
Joined: 06.13.2008

Aug 19 @ 2:37 PM ET
I wonder if the 'delay' is simply to allow for the selected team to orchestrate a splashy press conference-- which would be in line with Mc D style---

Vesey must have made his mind up by now--- the menu reading is over kid--- time to order up--

I sure hope he makes much quicker decisions on ice!

- jb3333


Ill be pisssed if he goes to NYR
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 19 @ 2:39 PM ET
Yes this.

0.925 mil + maximum 2.85 mil bonuses x 2 years = 7.55 mil

- breadbag


Yep but who isn't offering that, lol. Don't see this as news.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 2:39 PM ET
Yes this.

0.925 mil + maximum 2.85 mil bonuses x 2 years = 7.55 mil

- breadbag



And if he hits all the bonus then its worth every penny. If not 925k expieremnets with potential are the best
tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 19 @ 2:45 PM ET
Exactly---- Hossa retires as a Hawk--- 81 in the rafters-- looks like we will have several new banners in the rafters when 81-2-7-19-88 (4)? retire-- I still think 27 & 28 should have been up there for their service on some very good Hawks teams

Doubtful Vesey will have his number up there-- but he might play a couple seasons here--

- jb3333


Just my opinion but when it's all said and done I think only the big three are getting their jersey's retired (19-88-2).
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Aug 19 @ 2:45 PM ET


D.E.C.I.S.I.O.N. 2016
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 19 @ 2:46 PM ET
D.E.C.I.S.I.O.N. 2016
- z1990z


(IN)D.E.C.I.S.I.O.N. 2016
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 19 @ 2:47 PM ET
Agent: Jimmy Vesey decision not likely to be made Friday. thesco.re/2bDvwA0

http://youtu.be/jiGcGh5nj5A
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Aug 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
Agent: Jimmy Vesey decision not likely to be made Friday. thesco.re/2bDvwA0

http://youtu.be/jiGcGh5nj5A

- walleyeb1






DK!?!? We need a video clip of some guy staring at his watch/cussing/yelling etc...
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Aug 19 @ 2:48 PM ET
I don't know how Hudler fits under cap unless he's taking a VERY small deal....Even with JV at 925K cap hit with bonuses hitting next year, It's very tight.

Hope the kid decides soon. Sounds like he has NHL ready skills now and won't take much transitioning.

Lastly on Panarin front saw that Monahan just hit the lottery with a 6+ million cap hit and I'd very hard pressed who would take him straight up over Panarin today. Skill wise. So what I am getting at, and what I've been preaching, is that I just don't see how Panarin is signed under 6 AAV this upcoming July 1.

Cap hell continues to haunt this franchise...........and Uncle Dale is LONG GONE
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Aug 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
Just my opinion but when it's all said and done I think only the big three are getting their jersey's retired (19-88-2).
- tyweb69



Maybe 7 too. Especially if he comes close to finishing that contract here. He's worn an A for how long? 2008?
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Aug 19 @ 2:52 PM ET
I don't know how Hudler fits under cap unless he's taking a VERY small deal....Even with JV at 925K cap hit with bonuses hitting next year, It's very tight.

Hope the kid decides soon. Sounds like he has NHL ready skills now and won't take much transitioning.

Lastly on Panarin front saw that Monahan just hit the lottery with a 6+ million cap hit and I'd very hard pressed who would take him straight up over Panarin today. Skill wise. So what I am getting at, and what I've been preaching, is that I just don't see how Panarin is signed under 6 AAV this upcoming July 1.

Cap hell continues to haunt this franchise...........and Uncle Dale is LONG GONE

- SteveRain


True - but Count Bettman is still around. Until he goes, it will continue to be cap hell for some teams.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Aug 19 @ 2:53 PM ET
Maybe 7 too. Especially if he comes close to finishing that contract here. He's worn an A for how long? 2008?
- bhawks2241


7 just got his A when Sharp left. Supposedly, he's been playing the role for longer, but it was formal this past season.
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Aug 19 @ 2:55 PM ET
Than you missed all the talk about whose wives Sharp slept with and why Keith was getting divorced.
- waitforawhistle

Didn't miss them. Was talking about the recent all Vesey all the time hockeybuzz
RedFeather
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: alsip, IL
Joined: 02.03.2016

Aug 19 @ 2:58 PM ET
Yes Wilson was the best Hawk for many years--- kept them in the discussion-- Didn't he lead the team in scoring as a dman a couple season?
- jb3333


Have to do for Probert what was done for Magnuson? (which was not the right thing, because Pilote deserved his own.)
tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 19 @ 2:59 PM ET
Think I read that the KHL team he's playing for is picking up Datsuk's salary.
- Marlowe


He retired he does not get paid anything, only the cap hit stays on the books because he was over 35 when he signed it.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 19 @ 3:01 PM ET
RedFeather
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: alsip, IL
Joined: 02.03.2016

Aug 19 @ 3:03 PM ET
Ill be pisssed if he goes to NYR
- Hawkster


he doesn't make NY a contender so who cares.
tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
Keith is the other contract on the Hawks that would be subject to recapture penalties if he were to retire early. Hossa is brought up a lot because, other than Luongo, he would be the oldest at the end of his contract. Some of the guys on those contracts were relatively young and not likely to have many issues (like Ovie) or so far into the contracts they only have a little time left (Savard), but a majority will be in around 39/40 when they end.

Others include: Luongo (43), Hossa (42), Chara (41), Parise (40), Suter (40), Zetterberg (40), Franzen (40), Savard (39), Keith (39), Kronwall (38), Carter (37), Crosby (36), and Ovechkin (35).

- L_B_R


Ovi is exempt from cap recapture. His salary was 9M 1st half of deal then 10M.
flappymcgee303
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Romeoville, IL
Joined: 06.25.2015

Aug 19 @ 3:04 PM ET
Have to do for Probert what was done for Magnuson? (which was not the right thing, because Pilote deserved his own.)
- RedFeather


Do what for Probert? Retire his number?
RedFeather
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: alsip, IL
Joined: 02.03.2016

Aug 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
Do what for Probert? Retire his number?
- flappymcgee303


24 Wilson 24 Probert and let's throw in 24 Havlat
flappymcgee303
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Romeoville, IL
Joined: 06.25.2015

Aug 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
24 Wilson 24 Probert and let's throw in 24 Havlat
- RedFeather

don't forget about Nick Boynton, he did win a cup
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Aug 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
7 just got his A when Sharp left. Supposedly, he's been playing the role for longer, but it was formal this past season.
- pdx2ord



I knew that .........
matt_ahrens
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Carlos, CA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Aug 19 @ 3:08 PM ET
I wonder if the 'delay' is simply to allow for the selected team to orchestrate a splashy press conference-- which would be in line with Mc D style---

Vesey must have made his mind up by now--- the menu reading is over kid--- time to order up--

I sure hope he makes much quicker decisions on ice!

- jb3333



Yeah, makes me think the Blackhawks could be the frontrunners.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 19 @ 3:09 PM ET
Looked this up just for the heck of it:

Tyler Motte - 2015-16 U. of Michigan Big-10 38gms 32G 24A 56Pts
Jimmy Vessy - 2015-16 Harvard University ECAC 33gms 24G 22A 46Pts
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Aug 19 @ 3:20 PM ET
Have to do for Probert what was done for Magnuson? (which was not the right thing, because Pilote deserved his own.)
- RedFeather

Maggie to Pierre is a much better comparison than Probie to Willie. In terms of character, there is no comparison of Probert to Magnuson.

While I admire what Probert did to try to ward off his evils, Keith Magnuson was a face of the Chicago Blackhawks for over a generation. I am grateful and humbled to have met such a great man. Who Keith Magnuson was, off the ice, was a big(ger) reason why his #3 was retired with the great Pierre Pilote.

Willie left the 'Hawks on bad terms in 1991. His 39 goals and 85 points will likely stand as the all time 'Hawks single season defenceman scoring in '82-'83. Too bad it took him scoring a lot to get his only Norris. But then again, all of us know how the Norris is really awarded. Those points came often with 20/18/28 up front on the PP.
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