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JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
If it comes out that he signs with the Rangers because NY offered immediate playing time and the Hawks didn't... does that change your perception of his character?
- Hank3Henshaw

No. What rookie wouldn't choose immediate NHL time over having to work your way up?
Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
This place is like the National Enquirer office
- 6628

Not enough reporting about relationships.
Quicky72
Joined: 08.31.2013

Aug 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
If it comes out that he signs with the Rangers because NY offered immediate playing time and the Hawks didn't... does that change your perception of his character?
- Hank3Henshaw


Wanting playing time is a measure of character? Don't all players want more playing time?
DestinBlackhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Destin, FL
Joined: 06.11.2012

Aug 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
This place is like the National Enquirer office
- 6628


It is called "Hockeybuzz"
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
This place is like the National Enquirer office
- 6628



#Aliens !!
roots_gamble
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 09.21.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:10 PM ET
If it comes out that he signs with the Rangers because NY offered immediate playing time and the Hawks didn't... does that change your perception of his character?
- Hank3Henshaw


To me? No. He's getting the same offer in terms of dollars no matter what, so the next motivating factor might be playing time with the big boys. I have no problem with someone having the desire to play in the NHL right away, if that's something he can be offered.
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:11 PM ET
Here is my prediction. Vesey signs with:


Marlowe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wild Wild West, IL
Joined: 06.29.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:12 PM ET
#Aliens !!
- mrpaulish

Jimmy Vesey is an alien!
RedFeather
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: alsip, IL
Joined: 02.03.2016

Aug 19 @ 12:13 PM ET
if you are listening to kevin hayes instead of scotty bowman, you're not gonna listen to joel quenneville.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 19 @ 12:14 PM ET
if you are listening to kevin hayes instead of scotty bowman, you're not gonna listen to joel quenneville.
- RedFeather


"If you French fry before you pizza, you're not gonna have a good tiiime." -South Park
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 12:14 PM ET
if you are listening to kevin hayes instead of scotty bowman, you're not gonna listen to joel quenneville.
- RedFeather


If you are listening to Kevin Hayes instead of Scott Bowman then your judgement issues should be greatly questioned.
Murph76
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.07.2011

Aug 19 @ 12:14 PM ET
If breadman gets an unmatchable offer then it will be the 4 first round pick type of offer.
- mrpaulish

From what I've read, Bowman and Panarin's agent are already working on a contract extension. So hopefully it doesn't even get to that point. I would guess one of the "core" (cough...Crawford) will be dealt after this season to pay for the Breadman's extension.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Aug 19 @ 12:18 PM ET
If you are listening to Kevin Hayes instead of Scott Bowman then your judgement issues should be greatly questioned.
- kwolf68

And your career will be on par with Jack Skille.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 12:20 PM ET
From what I've read, Bowman and Panarin's agent are already working on a contract extension. So hopefully it doesn't even get to that point. I would bet one of the "core" (cough...Crawford) will be dealt after this season to pay for the Breadman's extension.
- Murph76


Of course they are "working on it". Doesn't mean much.

My guess is Bowman is offering something in the 5s (a bit low)...which the thing would have been a done deal, but Panarin is probably looking 7+ (a bit high)...how much negotiating room in the 6 million range either side is willing to move on dictates if and when a deal gets done.
Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Aug 19 @ 12:23 PM ET
From what I've read, Bowman and Panarin's agent are already working on a contract extension. So hopefully it doesn't even get to that point. I would bet one of the "core" (cough...Crawford) will be dealt after this season to pay for the Breadman's extension.
- Murph76


Stan should sign Panarin now and sort the rest out later.

Anismov, Crawford, and MAYBE Seabrook would be on the block. Count on a Hossa retirement after this season too.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 19 @ 12:24 PM ET
#Aliens !!
- mrpaulish

Ancient astronaut theorists suggest that Vesey is choosing the Blackhawks.

Murph76
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.07.2011

Aug 19 @ 12:24 PM ET
Of course they are "working on it". Doesn't mean much.

My guess is Bowman is offering something in the 5s (a bit low)...which the thing would have been a done deal, but Panarin is probably looking 7+ (a bit high)...how much negotiating room in the 6 million range either side is willing to move on dictates if and when a deal gets done.

- kwolf68


With Bowman's history of procrastination, I'm just happy it's being discussed already to be honest. I would think they'll meet somewhere just north of 6M (which is exactly what Crow makes ironically).
MNHawk
Location: Richfield, MN
Joined: 07.18.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:27 PM ET
#Aliens !!
- mrpaulish


MNHawk
Location: Richfield, MN
Joined: 07.18.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
Ancient astronaut theorists suggest that Vesey is choosing the Blackhawks.


- AEL_Fox


Beat me to it!
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
With Bowman's history of procrastination, I'm just happy it's being discussed already to be honest. I would think they'll meet somewhere just north of 6M (which is exactly what Crow makes ironically).
- Murph76



I agree. I think if we can get Panarin for 6-6.4 or so that's a nice deal for the Hawks...high 6s is tough but maybe workable. Anything over 7 then I don't think the Hawks can play ball.

I know he has only played 1 year, but NOTHING in his game suggest to me he isn't a long term player. The WORRY about waiting is Panarin blows up again (maybe even with new linemates) and prices himself out of Chicago.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
Stan should sign Panarin now and sort the rest out later.

Anismov, Crawford, and MAYBE Seabrook would be on the block. Count on a Hossa retirement after this season too.

- Bjm84


Alot depends on if Panarin hits the bonus again. At 6.5 X6-8 years you could afford him by moving Kruger if pan does not hit his bonus again.
17SEC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Limerick, PA
Joined: 09.16.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
Count me in the Hossa "retirement" ala Pavel Datsyuk to clear space for next season.
MNHawk
Location: Richfield, MN
Joined: 07.18.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
I agree. I think if we can get Panarin for 6-6.4 or so that's a nice deal for the Hawks...high 6s is tough but maybe workable. Anything over 7 then I don't think the Hawks can play ball.

I know he has only played 1 year, but NOTHING in his game suggest to me he isn't a long term player. The WORRY about waiting is Panarin blows up again (maybe even with new linemates) and prices himself out of Chicago.

- kwolf68


Look for Patrick Sharp and Johnny Oduya to come back next offseason as the back up plan after Panarin signs with the Blues.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:31 PM ET


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Word from Vesey camp: decision could be Sat, but not ruling out today.

BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 19 @ 12:32 PM ET
Seriously, what's a better option for him. Playing with Stepan/Zuccarello or two HOF guys like Toews/Hossa? It's a no brainer unless being closer to home really is a big deal to him. You're 23, not 18. Grow up and play where is best for you and your career like the majority of the NHLers. He's picking NYR?
- Assman22


I'll be very very very very very surprised if he picks the Rangers. To me that's more Twitter hope, common he went to Harvard he can't be that....
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