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riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 19 @ 11:47 AM ET
There's that, Hawks could likely offer him 2nd unit PP time, and a chance to play top line mins with two HOF players, plus Chicago is built for long-term success and NYR has maybe 2 years left of win now mode. Can't imagine growing up in Boston then using your FA to choose a city you grew up hating your whole life. Like me picking St Louis,
- Assman22


Well Stated!
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:47 AM ET
Yep. That's my view. Hawks are moving onto the next step. It's just odd JJ would post a comment about Hudler and then Rangers rumors pick up.

My only question is IF it's done, then what the hell is he waiting for?

- kwolf68


The Rangers tweet isn't there anymore. . .dun dun dun
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 11:48 AM ET
Monahan signs for roughly $6.3
Good comparable for next Breadman deal.

- jt19


If Panarin duplicates last year he'll be North of 7 million.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:49 AM ET
If Panarin duplicates last year he'll be North of 7 million.
- kwolf68

Then bye-bye

Or trade two guys just to keep him.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:49 AM ET
If Panarin duplicates last year he'll be North of 7 million.
- kwolf68


Let's say Q decides to put him up with Toews. Do you think he does duplicate, or do his numbers drop a bit?
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
Monahan signs for roughly $6.3
Good comparable for next Breadman deal.

- jt19


Another comparable player Johnny Gaudreau is apparently wanting around 7.5 mil from the Flames.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
Then bye-bye

Or trade two guys just to keep him.

- 93Joe



I don't see Artey in Chicago long term, given what his salary will command on the open market unless some other big boy is moved.
DestinBlackhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Destin, FL
Joined: 06.11.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
NHLSourcesSay ?@NHLSourcesSay 15m15 minutes ago
Sources saying Jimmy Vesey has chosen the Chicago Blackhawks, they had offered him the contract maximum for rookie a week ago.

I'm not sure who this is but was posted 16 mins ago. But the week ago comment makes is appear made up.
hankscorpio
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.06.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
if scotty bowman calls you and tells you to do something hockey-related, you say "yes, sir."
- RedFeather


Correct.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:51 AM ET
The Rangers tweet isn't there anymore. . .dun dun dun

- pdx2ord

If coaching and surrounding players are what he's banking on, NYR makes no sense over the Hawks.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 11:53 AM ET
Let's say Q decides to put him up with Toews. Do you think he does duplicate, or do his numbers drop a bit?
- pdx2ord



Great question man. Honestly, I can't answer it. I could see him becomming a bigger goal scorer with Tazer and Hossa, with a few less assists.
93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:54 AM ET

27s27 seconds ago
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak
#BREAKING - Hearing Vesey has narrowed his list down to 3 teams. CHI/NYR/TOR. NJD/BOS/BUF/PIT/NYI out.
Murph76
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.07.2011

Aug 19 @ 11:55 AM ET
I don't see Artey in Chicago long term, given what his salary will command on the open market unless some other big boy is moved.
- kwolf68


I would bet that the other big boy will be...Crawford. I am fine with Darling getting a shot at #1, we have 0 replacements for the Breadman in our system.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 11:55 AM ET
27s27 seconds ago
Michael Grosso ‏@RumorBreak
#BREAKING - Hearing Vesey has narrowed his list down to 3 teams. CHI/NYR/TOR. NJD/BOS/BUF/PIT/NYI out.

- 93Joe



Now it's 3 teams?

Hell I just want this over. Good grief.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Aug 19 @ 11:56 AM ET
If coaching and surrounding players are what he's banking on, NYR makes no sense over the Hawks.
- JRoenick97


IMHO - if he signs with NYR its all about the line of bull dung Hayes fed him about CHI. Hayes has had a chubby for the B over his brother - who in everyones opinion was a 4th line guy. Same dung many teams go through when a disgruntled FA slams the team - others listen without facts.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 11:57 AM ET
I would be that the other big boy will be...Crawford. I am fine with Darling getting a shot at #1, we have 0 replacement for the Breadman in our system.
- Murph76



I agree. To keep Panarin someone has to move and Crawford makes the most sense. I see no other option than makes sense. You can't move Keith or Seabrook because like Panarin no one is remotely close to being able to replace them in in the system.
pdx2ord
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:57 AM ET
Great question man. Honestly, I can't answer it. I could see him becomming a bigger goal scorer with Tazer and Hossa, with a few less assists.
- kwolf68


Will be interesting to see what happens if that change is made. He is definitely a finisher and once he got comfortable out there, didn't hesitate to shoot (those Penguins games were things of beauty). Toews, while no Patrick Kane, is no slouch on the passing. It's definitely one things I'm looking forward to watching closely this year.

As I've said several times, would think for sure that the FO would want to see what he brings as a solo artist before inking the next offer.
DestinBlackhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Destin, FL
Joined: 06.11.2012

Aug 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
Neil Smith ?@nycneil 13m13 minutes ago
Jimmy Vesey will be with an American original 6 team I'm hearing. @NYRangers & @NHLBlackhawks are finalists according to multiple sources.

Then there would be two?
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:00 PM ET
https://twitter.com/16yrs...status/766661462655922176
gnosox1986
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 01.25.2012

Aug 19 @ 12:01 PM ET
I would be that the other big boy will be...Crawford. I am fine with Darling getting a shot at #1, we have 0 replacement for the Breadman in our system.
- Murph76


The Hawks would give Panarin a Qualifying offer though. and the subsequent offer sheet he got would return the hawks a First, second, and third-round pick. for the 2018 draft. Potentially more if the Sheet goes over 7.35M...

The hope would be that you can use those assets to replace him.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 19 @ 12:03 PM ET
The Hawks would give Panarin a Qualifying offer though. and the subsequent offer sheet he got would return the hawks a First, second, and third-round pick. for the 2018 draft. Potentially more if the Sheet goes over 7.35M...

The hope would be that you can use those assets to replace him.

- gnosox1986

Those picks would certainly lessen the sting, especially if they were top 10 picks in the rounds.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 12:04 PM ET
The Hawks would give Panarin a Qualifying offer though. and the subsequent offer sheet he got would return the hawks a First, second, and third-round pick. for the 2018 draft. Potentially more if the Sheet goes over 7.35M...

The hope would be that you can use those assets to replace him.

- gnosox1986



If breadman gets an unmatchable offer then it will be the 4 first round pick type of offer.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
If it comes out that he signs with the Rangers because NY offered immediate playing time and the Hawks didn't... does that change your perception of his character?

6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Aug 19 @ 12:08 PM ET
This place is like the National Enquirer office
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:09 PM ET
Makes sense Vesey is going to NY given JJ posted a comment about Hawks now in on Hudler. Sounds like it is probably done.
- kwolf68


JJ answered a Twitter questions on this: as a backup plan? Yes
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