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Quicky72
Joined: 08.31.2013

Aug 19 @ 10:18 AM ET
As much as I'd love it, merely changing the process won't get people to act like decent respectful humans on the internet.
- JGould70


Totally agree. To change that my friend would take the largest evolutionary leap the human race has ever experienced.
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Aug 19 @ 10:19 AM ET
This guy (Vesey) will be booed mercilessly on a nightly basis if he signs in the East because of all the teams he will have turned down.

He will endure a lot less of that with the Hawks as they are the only Western team involved in the bidding.
kmw4631
Location: CHICAGO
Joined: 02.27.2015

Aug 19 @ 10:24 AM ET


Arthur Staple Verified account 
‏@StapeNewsday
Nothing final yet, but hearing it's #NYR or #CHI for Jimmy Vesey. Tavares made a strong pitch for #Isles but they fell short, it appears.

JGould70
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 05.01.2012

Aug 19 @ 10:27 AM ET
Totally agree. To change that my friend would take the largest evolutionary leap the human race has ever experienced.
- Quicky72



I love information at my fingertips but the old days just felt a little better to me

Back to Veseywatch!
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 19 @ 10:29 AM ET
Arthur Staple Verified account 
‏@StapeNewsday
Nothing final yet, but hearing it's #NYR or #CHI for Jimmy Vesey. Tavares made a strong pitch for #Isles but they fell short, it appears.

- kmw4631


NY market and sports media...


Quicky72
Joined: 08.31.2013

Aug 19 @ 10:30 AM ET
I love information at my fingertips but the old days just felt a little better to me

Back to Veseywatch!

- JGould70


JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 19 @ 10:32 AM ET
Crazy (and sad) to watch the amount of people on Twitter ripping on this kid while he's making one of the biggest decisions of his life. Where there's smoke there's fire...clearly the kid's got something a bunch of NHL teams are interested in.
- JGould70

Twitter gave any moron with an internet connection an easily indexable platform to spread their idiocy.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Aug 19 @ 10:32 AM ET
NY market and sports media...
- Hank3Henshaw



What's Kevin Hayes second contract pitch? I ditched the Hawks and got 2.6 mil per on a 2 year deal with the Rangers. It was a great career move.

Saad and Panarin were flukes with the Hawks......
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Aug 19 @ 10:34 AM ET
John Jaeckel ‏@jaeckel 1m1 minute ago
Hawks also in contact with Jiri Hudler Camp.
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John Jaeckel ‏@jaeckel 2m2 minutes ago
Told just now Hawks had Scotty Bowman phone in to Vesey pitch. Team "hopeful," awaiting decision.
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John Jaeckel ‏@jaeckel Aug 13
Sources saying Vesey to Chicago a strong possibility: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=78632
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93Joe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.09.2015

Aug 19 @ 10:38 AM ET
Arthur Staple Verified account 
‏@StapeNewsday
Nothing final yet, but hearing it's #NYR or #CHI for Jimmy Vesey. Tavares made a strong pitch for #Isles but they fell short, it appears.

- kmw4631

I really like the guy as an athlete and individual, but how many good years does Lundqvist have in him? That NYR cup window is getting very very thin.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 19 @ 10:49 AM ET
NY media/fans would run Vesey out of town if he doesn't produce.

He should take a long, hard look at TT's time here in Chicago, because he could end up having a similar experience in the pros--showing flashes of strong play, but having a lot of growing pains and struggling.

The Hawks showed great patience with TT--even more so than I thought he should have been given. Had it been NY, I think TT would have been run out a long time ago.

So, in my mind, I think the Hawks organization and fanbase, would give him more of chance then somewhere like NY. And I'm not saying that NY is bad, but their markets are typically known for being tough on their "stars" that aren't producing. Nothing wrong with some tough love, though.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Aug 19 @ 10:52 AM ET
NY media/fans would run Vesey out of town if he doesn't produce.

He should take a long, hard look at TT's time here in Chicago, because he could end up having a similar experience in the pros--showing flashes of strong play, but having a lot of growing pains and struggling.

The Hawks showed great patience with TT--even more so than I thought he should have been given. Had it been NY, I think TT would have been run out a long time ago.

So, in my mind, I think the Hawks organization and fanbase, would give him more of chance then somewhere like NY. And I'm not saying that NY is bad, but their markets are typically known for being tough on their "stars" that aren't producing. Nothing wrong with some tough love, though.

- Hank3Henshaw



Well Elaine Veen-yo wont be easy on him either..
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Aug 19 @ 11:00 AM ET

The Hawks showed great patience with TT--even more so than I thought he should have been given. Had it been NY, I think TT would have been run out a long time ago.

- Hank3Henshaw


I agree with your point about patience. However I don't agree with using TT as a comparable. TT was physically immature whereas Vesey is physically ready. TT couldn't always use his considerable skills because he was often physically overwhelmed. Vesey probably isn't close to the same skill level of TT but he can skate well and has the physical strength and size to compete in that part of the game. Patience was needed for TT to get stronger and bigger which was a more long term project. The Hawks may need to have patience with Vesey but it will be for him to realize he can compete in the league like all rookies have to go through and shouldn't take anywhere near as long as it would take TT to grow into being a man.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:00 AM ET
Well Elaine Veen-yo wont be easy on him either..
- z1990z

One of my least favorite coaches.
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 19 @ 11:05 AM ET
I agree with your point about patience. However I don't agree with using TT as a comparable. TT was physically immature whereas Vesey is physically ready. TT couldn't always use his considerable skills because he was often physically overwhelmed. Vesey probably isn't close to the same skill level of TT but he can skate well and has the physically strength and size to compete in that part of the game. Patience was needed for TT to get stronger and bigger which was a more long term project. The Hawks may need to have patience with Vesey but it will be for him to realize he can compete in the league like all rookies have to go through and shouldn't take anywhere near as long as it would take TT to grow into being a man.
- EbonyRaptor


Good point about the physical aspect

hawkeytalkman
Joined: 01.11.2016

Aug 19 @ 11:07 AM ET
One of my least favorite coaches.
- JRoenick97


Oh I love him. Disappoints fanbases everywhere he goes

Guy is the ultimate tease. Gets your team all the way to the show and just flat out forgets how to coach. Wash, rinse, repeat
Cmonalready
Joined: 07.02.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:12 AM ET
Scotty Bowman participating in the pitch. That's almost unfair.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Aug 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
Twitter gave any moron with an internet connection an easily indexable platform to spread their idiocy.
- JRoenick97

Ever see the movie "Idiocracy"? I swear it began by the use of FB and TWTR.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:13 AM ET
Can't see Vesey picking NYR over CHI unless being closer to home is really a top priority.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Aug 19 @ 11:15 AM ET
Latest from a friend:

"Blackhawks made a very simple and succinct pitch to the Vesey camp. No over the top promises, no frills, just simply what they had to offer, what team/player support they could provide, etc. including a small phone pitch from Scotty Bowman. The Vesey camp has not let anything out, but have been told that he has already made a decision, and they are working on logistics/conferences today."
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:15 AM ET
Ever see the movie "Idiocracy"? I swear it began by the use of FB and TWTR.
- blackhawk24

Go away! Batin'!
Matt Ross
Joined: 03.15.2013

Aug 19 @ 11:16 AM ET
Latest from a friend:

"Blackhawks made a very simple and succinct pitch to the Vesey camp. No over the top promises, no frills, just simply what they had to offer, what team/player support they could provide, etc. including a small phone pitch from Scotty Bowman. The Vesey camp has not let anything out, but have been told that he has already made a decision, and they are working on logistics/conferences today."

- John Jaeckel


Thanks for the update, JJ.
JRoenick97
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Spokane, WA
Joined: 07.20.2012

Aug 19 @ 11:17 AM ET
Latest from a friend:

"Blackhawks made a very simple and succinct pitch to the Vesey camp. No over the top promises, no frills, just simply what they had to offer, what team/player support they could provide, etc. including a small phone pitch from Scotty Bowman. The Vesey camp has not let anything out, but have been told that he has already made a decision, and they are working on logistics/conferences today."

- John Jaeckel

Good to hear they aren't giving him promises of a spot he hasn't earned because Q would be crotch grabbing all over the place.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:18 AM ET
Can't see Vesey picking NYR over CHI unless being closer to home is really a top priority.
- Assman22


Maybe they had Nash in the meeting
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Aug 19 @ 11:18 AM ET
Seeing lots of rumblings that Vesey is picking NYR.
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