I'd seriously look into trading him for any tangible asset before losing him for nothing.
- jmatchett383

That's true. I can't imagine him being so bad that it's a negative contract by the end of the year. There should be trade value

Death, taxes, and Phelps
- Giroux_Is_God

Poor Elliotte Friedman

http://thebiglead.com/201...phelps-ryan-lochte-video/

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Expansion, Trivia, Alumni and More
- bmeltzer

Honestly, depends how the team shapes out in a year. I want Mac to go but don't care if one of Weise, Read, Laughton or Cousins goes. Raffl I'm not a huge fan of but he's a responsible player and a matural LWer.

Pure hypothetical but if jake has a season like last year...50-60 pts while continuing to look out of sorts, is there anyone that would think about exposing him? I'd have to look at that personally
- Just5

Gotta look at Giroux, as well. After all, he's older than Jake.

I'd seriously look into trading him for any tangible asset before losing him for nothing.
- jmatchett383

Understood, and I'm certainly not saying I think it will happen, or should happen, with Voracek.

But the hypothetical is interesting, because teams have to be ruthless when you consider cap dollars vs. production. It will never be like the NFL, because of the guaranteed contract. But like Bill Walsh used to say, "better a year too soon than a year too late," and if a team looked at a guy like, say, Ryan Getzlaf's last season and thought his slide was going to be steeper than you imagined, I'd have to give at least a few moment's thought about exposure -- sometimes, you gotta take the possible out if it's there

Gotta look at Giroux, as well. After all, he's older than Jake.
- Feanor

NMC

Don't be ridiculous.

Understood, and I'm certainly not saying I think it will happen, or should happen, with Voracek.

But the hypothetical is interesting, because teams have to be ruthless when you consider cap dollars vs. production. It will never be like the NFL, because of the guaranteed contract. But like Bill Walsh used to say, "better a year too soon than a year too late," and if a team looked at a guy like, say, Ryan Getzlaf's last season and thought his slide was going to be steeper than you imagined, I'd have to give at least a few moment's thought about exposure -- sometimes, you gotta take the possible out if it's there
- AllInForFlyers

Not directed at you, but at the point. Many people still have it in their head that players are routinely getting 80-100 points in this league.

Hell I had a guy tell me he thinks Max Domi is going to be an 85 point player. I said that would make him 3rd in the league in scoring.

Sometimes a slide isn't a slide, its a league wide trend towards lower scoring totals.

Not directed at you, but at the point. Many people still have it in their head that players are routinely getting 80-100 points in this league.

Hell I had a guy tell me he thinks Max Domi is going to be an 85 point player. I said that would make him 3rd in the league in scoring.

Sometimes a slide isn't a slide, its a league wide trend towards lower scoring totals.
- MBFlyerfan

Does this "a guy" have a last name that would fit in on Full House?

Does this "a guy" have a last name that would fit in on Full House?
- jmatchett383

I don't remember, he also thought Morin was a bust. I tend to block things like that from a memory.

Could the Flyers make a handshake agreement to resign Mason AND Neurvirth AFTER the expansion draft? Almost like an expansion draft loophole to protect both goalies?

Could the Flyers make a handshake agreement to resign Mason AND Neurvirth AFTER the expansion draft? Almost like an expansion draft loophole to protect both goalies?
- Trainfellow

Yes

Las Vegas will probably also be doing some handshake deals for post Expansion signings.

Could the Flyers make a handshake agreement to resign Mason AND Neurvirth AFTER the expansion draft? Almost like an expansion draft loophole to protect both goalies?
- Trainfellow

I think there will be several deals like that. You may see several pending UFAs not resigned prior to the expansion draft.

Yes

Las Vegas will probably also be doing some handshake deals for post Expansion signings.
- dragonoffrost

Mike Richards is excited.

Mike Richards is excited.
- jmatchett383

I wonder who will give him a tryout as training camp nears.

I think there will be several deals like that. You may see several pending UFAs not resigned prior to the expansion draft.
- jmatchett383

We finally have two solid goalies and I don't want to give either up

We finally have two solid goalies and I don't want to give either up
- Trainfellow

Well, they're most likely losing one after this year. I don't see them having the space to resign both.

Does this "a guy" have a last name that would fit in on Full House?
- jmatchett383

I wonder who will give him a tryout as training camp nears.
- MBFlyerfan

At least 0 or 1 teams

Expansion draft protection prediction with expected 2017 results(or pace).

Giroux-25G-50A
Jake-20G-50A
Couturier-20G-35A
Simmonds-30G-30A
Schenn-30G-30A
Raffl-20G-15A
Laughton-15G-20A

Ghost-15G-40A
Del Zotto-10G-25A(Extended 6 million x 4 years)
Gudas-5G-15A

Mason-35W-920SV%-2.50GAA

The most notable players to wear number 15 on a long-term basis include current Flyers defenseman Michael Del Zotto as well as past players such as Terry Crisp, Rich Sutter and Pat Falloon.

"Flyers goal scored by number 15, J.J. Daigneault!"
-- Lou Nolan, Thursday May 28, 1987 aka Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals

Over/under for 2016/2017:

Mason 32 wins
Giroux 30 ESP
Flyers 44 ROW
Ghost 23 PIM
jmatchett383 4 bans
Morin 8 games
AMac 8 games

Expansion draft protection prediction with expected 2017 results(or pace).

Giroux-25G-50A
Jake-20G-50A
Couturier-20G-35A
Simmonds-30G-30A
Schenn-30G-30A
Raffl-20G-15A
Laughton-15G-20A

Ghost-15G-40A
Del Zotto-10G-25A(Extended 6 million x 4 years)
Gudas-5G-15A

Mason-35W-920SV%-2.50GAA
- Baxter27

I think your Couturier projection might be a bit ambitious. He's never recorded 40 points in a season yet, 55 seems like a pretty big jump. He's got so much defensive responsibility on his plate. 55 would be great. Would make him an all-star caliber player.

"Flyers goal scored by number 15, J.J. Daigneault!"
-- Lou Nolan, Thursday May 28, 1987 aka Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals
- copelal

And everyone on Ben Franklin Parkway leaving the Chicago concert chants "EDMONTON SUCKS!"

Not directed at you, but at the point. Many people still have it in their head that players are routinely getting 80-100 points in this league.

Hell I had a guy tell me he thinks Max Domi is going to be an 85 point player. I said that would make him 3rd in the league in scoring.

Sometimes a slide isn't a slide, its a league wide trend towards lower scoring totals.
- MBFlyerfan

No, I understand. Scoring is down again, unfortunately

And everyone on Ben Franklin Parkway leaving the Chicago concert chants "EDMONTON SUCKS!"
- dragonoffrost

This would have been much funnier if they were playing the Black Hawks.