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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Charge of the youngins--The first wave. Plus (shhhhh) Vesey
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turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Aug 12 @ 12:49 PM ET
In the end the Sabres can pay him the most money in 2 years after his ELC is up. Some really think Eichel is the main reason he comes here but it's not, it's one of them but not the main one.
- SABRES 89


Sabres would be willing to pay him more I would say, but this premise makes sense. Jack is big to him because of the comfort thing and I agree it's one of a few reasons Buffalo should be his most attractive option which also includes: young team, top 6 minutes, pp minutes, place to live (with Jack and Sam), small city environment without as much pressure, lower cost of living, 50 min flight to Boston ........he knows this
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 12 @ 12:52 PM ET
6 year deal straight up.

hope they are right or another 6 years of no playoffs are headed this way,

- CoHo_to_B-Lo

the 10 games where Taylor, Sammy Watkins and LeSean McCoy were all on the field the Bills became the fourth highest scoring offense in the league.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Aug 12 @ 12:55 PM ET
the 10 games where Taylor, Sammy Watkins and LeSean McCoy were all on the field the Bills became the fourth highest scoring offense in the league.
- homiedclown

Too lazy to look it up, but what was our record in those games?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 12 @ 12:56 PM ET
With Roy out does this affect Grigo's stay in Colorado at all? Kid got 6-21-27 last year in 74 games. Not sure how long his contract is for but I wonder when it's over what they do with him if he goes to about 30-35 points next year
- Zschalberg


dont see him going anywhere, grigo says he loves to be in Denver. Assistant coach tim army is who Grigo credits for his development since he would always work with Grigo after practice, etc.

Grigo stays if the Avs have anything to say about it,
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Aug 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
Too lazy to look it up, but what was our record in those games?
- LandlordTom



If Tyrod doesn't miss those two games we probably make the playoffs he was great last year. Just hope they aren't jumping the gun.

Though no contract will be worse than a guy that was never a started and got paid big bucks in Houston.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 12 @ 12:57 PM ET
dont see him going anywhere, grigo says he loves to be in Denver. Assistant coach tim army is who Grigo credits for his development since he would always work with Grigo after practice, etc.

Grigo stays if the Avs have anything to say about it,

- DDM-Coga

But what is Tanners opinion on all this?
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 12 @ 12:58 PM ET
Sabres would be willing to pay him more I would say, but this premise makes sense. Jack is big to him because of the comfort thing and I agree it's one of a few reasons Buffalo should be his most attractive option which also includes: young team, top 6 minutes, pp minutes, place to live (with Jack and Sam), small city environment without as much pressure, lower cost of living, 50 min flight to Boston ........he knows this
- turbo044



#1-Having a young team with unproven talent is not always an attraction (see Edmonton)

#2-I would say coming to Buffalo he would have alot more pressure than a place like NYC or even Chicago

#3- A place to live? its a non factor

#4-I doubt he cares about the cost of living. He will be fine financially
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 12 @ 12:59 PM ET
But what is Tanners opinion on all this?
- jochfr


we are best friends now, he doesnt have anything to harp on about my Avs with Roy gone. he is goign to have to find a new narrative
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Aug 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
1. Brown liquor
2. Melania Trump
3. that is all

- Der Kaiser



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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 1:03 PM ET
#1-Having a young team with unproven talent is not always an attraction (see Edmonton)

#2-I would say coming to Buffalo he would have alot more pressure than a place like NYC or even Chicago

#3- A place to live? its a non factor

#4-I doubt he care about the cost of living. He will be fine financially

- MCGUIZZY



One of his most important criteria listed is how the franchise treats players on their second and thrid contracts. He cares about finanical issues. And TPegs can back up the brinks truck.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 12 @ 1:05 PM ET
#1-Having a young team with unproven talent is not always an attraction (see Edmonton)

#2-I would say coming to Buffalo he would have alot more pressure than a place like NYC or even Chicago

#3- A place to live? its a non factor

#4-I doubt he care about the cost of living. He will be fine financially

- MCGUIZZY



I agree with 1 and 3

The other two not a chance. Going to a team like Chicago they expect to win the Cup. The Rangers are holding on to their last chance to win a cup in the next 2 seasons. That's their window. There's a lot more pressure there.

In regards to cost of living maybe not a young kid but the older players absolutely look at the cost of living. There is a reason why Buffalo has a ton of retired players and coaches residing in Buffalo. Cheaper taxes than Canada and the cost of living is almost nothing.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
Too lazy to look it up, but what was our record in those games?
- LandlordTom

colts win
pats loss
miami win
miami win
jets win
pats loss
kc loss
houston win
eagles loss
redskins loss

5-5

just like any other bills stretch
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
One of his most important criteria listed is how the franchise treats players on their second and thrid contracts. He cares about finanical issues. And TPegs can back up the brinks truck.
- Der Kaiser


Did he say that?

Also every owner in the league can "back up a brinks truck" you dont think that we may have some cap issues in a few years too? when all our young guys need to get paid?
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Aug 12 @ 1:07 PM ET
we are best friends now, he doesnt have anything to harp on about my Avs with Roy gone. he is goign to have to find a new narrative
- DDM-Coga

Tanner probably has his resume sent to th Av"s front office already for the HC job.


He sure puts the anal in analytics.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 12 @ 1:09 PM ET
Did he say that?

Also every owner in the league can "back up a brinks truck" you dont think that we may have some cap issues in a few years too? when all our young guys need to get paid?

- MCGUIZZY



Really?

Then how come every team doesn't spend to the cap limit?

How come teams have internal caps?

MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
I agree with 1 and 3

The other two not a chance. Going to a team like Chicago they expect to win the Cup. The Rangers are holding on to their last chance to win a cup in the next 2 seasons. That's their window. There's a lot more pressure there.

In regards to cost of living maybe not a young kid but the older players absolutely look at the cost of living. There is a reason why Buffalo has a ton of retired players and coaches residing in Buffalo. Cheaper taxes than Canada and the cost of living is almost nothing.

- Stripes77



Disagree. Hes not going to be under a microscope in Chicago or NY. Buffalo is all about hockey and will count on Vesey to perform if he comes here. When he goes to Chicago he will simply be a complimentary player.

The retired players and coaches that are here were either goons or players that never made much money in the league. This is a different era. If vesey is pans out to anywhere near the hype, he will have no issues with money and will certainly not be forced to retire here because he cant afford to live elsewhere

turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Aug 12 @ 1:12 PM ET
I agree with 1 and 3

The other two not a chance. Going to a team like Chicago they expect to win the Cup. The Rangers are holding on to their last chance to win a cup in the next 2 seasons. That's their window. There's a lot more pressure there.

In regards to cost of living maybe not a young kid but the older players absolutely look at the cost of living. There is a reason why Buffalo has a ton of retired players and coaches residing in Buffalo. Cheaper taxes than Canada and the cost of living is almost nothing.

- Stripes77


Correct. The media and the people are much easier to deal with in Buffalo. It got so bad with Hayes in Boston last year that be couldn't go out to dinner. Buffalonians, and believe it or not, are very respectful. They'll say hi but will give you your space.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 12 @ 1:13 PM ET
Really?

Then how come every team doesn't spend to the cap limit?

How come teams have internal caps?

- Stripes77


Most are conservative so they have the room if something comes around trade deadline day.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 12 @ 1:14 PM ET
Really?

Then how come every team doesn't spend to the cap limit?

How come teams have internal caps?

- Stripes77



Because they are smart and its not a good idea to do that?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 1:15 PM ET
Did he say that?(1)

Also every owner in the league can "back up a brinks truck" you dont think that we may have some cap issues in a few years too? when all our young guys need to get paid?(2)

- MCGUIZZY



1. Well, I don't know if he said it to his agent, but his agent said it to the press.

“We’ve looked at depth charts with some teams and talked about them,” Fish told Harris. “There’s obviously a lot of thought that goes into it: the city, the coach, the GM, the salary structure, how a team treats their players in the second and third contracts down the road.”

http://www.thehockeynews....e-approaches-free-agency/

2. Whether we might has a cap problem or not, if the kid is a priority we will spend to the cieling to make it happen.

So, yeah.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Aug 12 @ 1:19 PM ET
Because they are smart and its not a good idea to do that?
- MCGUIZZY



0:05 through 0:26

MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 12 @ 1:20 PM ET
1. Well, I don't know if he said it to his agent, but his agent said it to the press.

“We’ve looked at depth charts with some teams and talked about them,” Fish told Harris. “There’s obviously a lot of thought that goes into it: the city, the coach, the GM, the salary structure, how a team treats their players in the second and third contracts down the road.”

http://www.thehockeynews....e-approaches-free-agency/

2. Whether we might has a cap problem or not, if the kid is a priority we will spend to the cieling to make it happen.

So, yeah.

- Der Kaiser


Same goes for most teams
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 12 @ 1:20 PM ET
0:05 through 0:27


- Der Kaiser



Nope
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Aug 12 @ 1:21 PM ET
colts win
pats loss
miami win
miami win
jets win
pats loss
kc loss
houston win
eagles loss
redskins loss

5-5

just like any other bills stretch

- homiedclown

Holy S! Get it effin crankin baby! I believe in Willie Beamen!

The 1st Pats and KC losses are solely on the Defense. Only loss you can really pin on Beamen would be the 2nd Pats and maybe the Eagles. Either way, if the D shows up, they're 7-3 and the Oh fence is electric! This is why they've been waiting to announce Vesey!
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Aug 12 @ 1:21 PM ET
Correct. The media and the people are much easier to deal with in Buffalo. It got so bad with Hayes in Boston last year that be couldn't go out to dinner. Buffalonians, and believe it or not, are very respectful. They'll say hi but will give you your space.
- turbo044



Its Almost as if you play in the NHL with all that knowledge
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