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burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 10 @ 10:34 AM ET
Nah.
He's a GM....he makes trades.
It could have been very good for him he makes the trade and had gotten more back or had the leafs not kept any salary.
Heck even taking the crap we got back.....had the leafs not have to pay 1.5 million for the next 7 years would have improved the trade a great deal.

- Fakepartofme



Assuming that he gets more back, or is able to not do the retention is a bit much.


Perhaps he didn't get named gm until after the trade becuase they were already deep into the discussions? Perhaps he knew the leafs wanted to move him at all costs and knew the prices being discussed?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 10:35 AM ET
Nah.
He's a GM....he makes trades.
It could have been very good for him he makes the trade and had gotten more back or had the leafs not kept any salary.
Heck even taking the crap we got back.....had the leafs not have to pay 1.5 million for the next 7 years would have improved the trade a great deal.

- Fakepartofme


I’ve always thought that trade was the final indicator that a Senior guy with experience was needed; sooner rather than later.

If that trade was the catalyst for hiring lou, then so be it.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 10 @ 10:38 AM ET
except when you are Lou Lam who's been a GM for the same team for ever....he's never had to clean up another GM's mess
- jimi james

So?
Has nothing to do with anything.
He's still a gm.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 10 @ 10:38 AM ET
I’ve always thought that trade was the final indicator that a Senior guy with experience was needed; sooner rather than later.

If that trade was the catalyst for hiring lou, then so be it.

- Tumbleweed



I don't think that's how it worked. I don't think shanny saw what happened and said
We need help. Shanny obviously on board with the trade or else it doesn't happen.
JRocknRoll
Location: Charleston, SC
Joined: 11.10.2006

Aug 10 @ 10:40 AM ET
Shanaplan = sleeping with your wife.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Aug 10 @ 10:41 AM ET
Assuming that he gets more back, or is able to not do the retention is a bit much.


Perhaps he didn't get named gm until after the trade becuase they were already deep into the discussions? Perhaps he knew the leafs wanted to move him at all costs and knew the prices being discussed?

- burn

Who knows.
Just saying having Lou do the trade wouldnt have had any negative impact on him as per the previous post.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 10 @ 10:45 AM ET
Who knows.
Just saying having Lou do the trade wouldnt have had any negative impact on him as per the previous post.

- Fakepartofme



Well that's bs, because there is negative impact on the group who actually made it. So saying if Lou did exactly what deal was made no one would have complained is just nonsense.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 10:45 AM ET
Who knows.
Just saying having Lou do the trade wouldnt have had any negative impact on him as per the previous post.

- Fakepartofme


agreed
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 10:47 AM ET
Well that's bs, because there is negative impact on the group who actually made it. So saying if Lou did exactly what deal was made no one would have complained is just nonsense.
- burn


Shanny wanted kessel gone to created a culture change. With kessel’s NMC, options were limited and pitts offered the best deal; they took it.

The one thing they could have done differently that i see is taken back scuderi instead of retaining salary.

Maybe a well respected guy like lou could have convinced scuderi to waive is nmc. Maybe not. But Lou wasn’t there to make the phone call.


It’s impossible to too know, but just my guess.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 10 @ 10:52 AM ET
Shanny wanted kessel gone to created a culture change. With kessel’s NMC, options were limited and pitts offered the best deal; they took it.

The one thing they could have done differently that i see is taken back scuderi instead of retaining salary.

Maybe a well respected guy like lou could have convinced scuderi to waive is nmc. Maybe not. But Lou wasn’t there to make the phone call.


It’s impossible to too know, but just my guess.

- Tumbleweed


Agreed.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 10 @ 10:53 AM ET
This disturbs me

On the bright side, that should be around the time that the Canucks are out of the playoff race

- jimi james


Does that mean we'll have another chance to lose the lottery?!?
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Aug 10 @ 10:55 AM ET
Does that mean we'll have another chance to lose the lottery?!?
- storm88

of course it does
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Aug 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
Shanaplan = sleeping with your wife.
- JRocknRoll




You still butthurt about the time he slept with your wife?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 10 @ 10:56 AM ET
Does that mean we'll have another chance to lose the lottery?!?
- storm88


Probably.

Ya think this is the year Bo Horvat breaks out?
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Aug 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
of course it does
- jimi james

if your not first, you might as well be last!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:01 AM ET
if your not first, you might as well be last!
- Lucas.Neilson


zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Aug 10 @ 11:01 AM ET
Nah.
He's a GM....he makes trades.
It could have been very good for him he makes the trade and had gotten more back or had the leafs not kept any salary.
Heck even taking the crap we got back.....had the leafs not have to pay 1.5 million for the next 7 years would have improved the trade a great deal.

- Fakepartofme



Look at it as if you're paying off a car. A very expensive car.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Aug 10 @ 11:04 AM ET

- Scabeh

shake harder boy!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:07 AM ET
shake harder boy!
- Lucas.Neilson


Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Aug 10 @ 11:13 AM ET

- Scabeh

loved that episode.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 10 @ 11:18 AM ET
Probably.

Ya think this is the year Bo Horvat breaks out?

- Scabeh

Breaks out the -40 maybe.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Aug 10 @ 11:22 AM ET
Probably.

Ya think this is the year Bo Horvat breaks out?

- Scabeh


I'd like to see Sutter stay healthy and see how Bo does with 3 legitimate C's.

He's been a slow starter. But he seems to be the real deal. When I say that I mean he looks to be a solid #2 C.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Aug 10 @ 11:25 AM ET
I'd like to see Sutter stay healthy and see how Bo does with 3 legitimate C's.

He's been a slow starter. But he seems to be the real deal. When I say that I mean he looks to be a solid #2 C.

- storm88


Yeah, I like Horvat... he had a pretty interesting season last year especially when H. Sedin got injured.... he produced pretty well when given more ice time and powerplay time.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Aug 10 @ 11:25 AM ET
Guys I don't want to alarm you, but Nick Spaling has left the NHL
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Aug 10 @ 11:27 AM ET
Guys I don't want to alarm you, but Nick Spaling has left the NHL
- AdamFrench



The nhl loss is serviette gain...
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