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waitforawhistle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: manteno, IL
Joined: 12.28.2009

Aug 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
It's amazing what a good 25 games can do for a prospects overall ranking.
McDavid is going to be great that's for sure but to say right now that he's better than several established nhl players is ridiculous.

What if McDavid goes 15 games without a goal like a lot of sophomores?

What if for a 3rd year in a row he has another major injury?

McDavid has yet to play a full nhl season and because of that cannot be considered one of the top players. He could move up into that and probably has the best chance of doing so of all players but he isn't a top 20 nhl player yet.

- dirt_face


^^ Completely agree! I am not down playing his talent but I will have more respect for him after he wins a meaningful game.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Aug 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
It's amazing what a good 25 games can do for a prospects overall ranking.
McDavid is going to be great that's for sure but to say right now that he's better than several established nhl players is ridiculous.

What if McDavid goes 15 games without a goal like a lot of sophomores?

What if for a 3rd year in a row he has another major injury?

McDavid has yet to play a full nhl season and because of that cannot be considered one of the top players. He could move up into that and probably has the best chance of doing so of all players but he isn't a top 20 nhl player yet.

- dirt_face


Delete your account
CHI-HAWKS7
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.27.2011

Aug 9 @ 12:57 PM ET
I don't think McDavid's ranking is that big a deal. Is he better than some of the players ahead of him? Likely yes, but I take no issue with someone wanting more than 45 games at the NHL level to rank a player higher than 13th best forward in the world. 45 games is not a large sample size. It's not like they left him off the list completely.


Toews and Kopitar should be closer to each other, prob right next to each other.
dirt_face
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.12.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:03 PM ET
^^ Completely agree! I am not down playing his talent but I will have more respect for him after he wins a meaningful game.
- waitforawhistle


I want him to play a full nhl season
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
It's amazing what a good 25 games can do for a prospects overall ranking.
McDavid is going to be great that's for sure but to say right now that he's better than several established nhl players is ridiculous.

What if McDavid goes 15 games without a goal like a lot of sophomores?

What if for a 3rd year in a row he has another major injury?

McDavid has yet to play a full nhl season and because of that cannot be considered one of the top players. He could move up into that and probably has the best chance of doing so of all players but he isn't a top 20 nhl player yet.

- dirt_face

Hi Hater
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
Delete your account
- DeflatedPucks

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
^^ Completely agree! I am not down playing his talent but I will have more respect for him after he wins a meaningful game.
- waitforawhistle

Delete your account.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:07 PM ET
I don't think McDavid's ranking is that big a deal. Is he better than some of the players ahead of him? Likely yes, but I take no issue with someone wanting more than 45 games at the NHL level to rank a player higher than 13th best forward in the world. 45 games is not a large sample size. It's not like they left him off the list completely.


Toews and Kopitar should be closer to each other, prob right next to each other.

- CHI-HAWKS7


Kopitar >>>>>> Toews
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
behind Taylor Hall
cheater2
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.25.2008

Aug 9 @ 1:08 PM ET
Delete your account.
- Feds91Stammer


Delete YOU'RE account
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
Delete YOU'RE account
- cheater2

oh
SJFreez19
San Jose Sharks
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 09.30.2009

Aug 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
Each persons list is all dependent on the criteria you use to rank.

Best career so far?
Best projected career?
Best player last year?
Projected best player for next year?

I assume the NHL.com list is a combination of the last two. Plus a tiny bias for the first.

Is then is this list taking into account fantasy value? I doubt it, but its possible since it is NHL.com. Not many PIMs or good +/- for McDavid

Is the criteria something like 'who do I want to start building my team around today to be good in the future' - definitely McDavid.
If its more like 'I am playing game 7 Stanley Cup final tomorrow and I can add one forward to my team' I could come up with 12 forwards I would take ahead of McDavid

Anyways, long post just to say, everyone list is subjective. It not a disrespect to have McDavid at 13th. Esspecially since he'll probably be in the top 3 or so for the next 15 years.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
Delete YOU'RE account
- cheater2



Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 9 @ 1:21 PM ET



- lumlums

martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:25 PM ET
My arbitrary and completely random top 16 list (for next season)
1. Crosby
2. Kane
3. Seguin
4. McDavid
5. Benn
6. Ovechkin
7. Tarasenko
8. Hall
9. Malkin
10. Stamkos
11. Kopitar
12. Tavares
13. Bergeron
14. Pavelski
15. Toews
16. Backstrom
Dark horse to crack that list: Kuznetsov

- DeflatedPucks


1. Crosby
2. McDavid
3. Benn
4. Kane
5. Sequin
6. Ovechkin
7. Tarasenko
8. Hall
9. Malkin
10. Stamkos
11. Kopitar
12. Tavares
13. Bergeron
14. Pavelski
15. Toews
16. Backstrom

joe thornton should be somewhere in this list too just can't decide where to put him
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Aug 9 @ 1:26 PM ET
Delete YOU'RE account
- cheater2


no delete yore account
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:30 PM ET
And Tavares is ranked pretty high for a guy who isn't better than Hall...
- Matt_Henderson

MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Aug 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
I won't go through the whole list but going into next season (not considering health):

1. Crosby
2. McDavid
3. Malkin
4. Ovechkin
5. Kane
6. Benn
7. Tavares
8. Kopitar
9. Seguin
10. Tarasenko
11. Stamkos
12. Hall
13. Bergeron
14. Marchand
15. Toews/Mackinnon/Kucherov/Giroux/Panarin

I really do think that Crosby will continue to be the far and away best player but McDavid will be the clear cut 2nd best player in the league.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
James Tanner-esq blog
- maxbart5

The usual
cheater2
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.25.2008

Aug 9 @ 1:37 PM ET
no delete yore account
- DDM-Coga


I already did! (for all intensive purposes)

martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Aug 9 @ 1:39 PM ET
I won't go through the whole list but going into next season (not considering health):

1. Crosby
2. McDavid
3. Malkin
4. Ovechkin
5. Kane
6. Benn
7. Tavares
8. Kopitar
9. Seguin
10. Tarasenko
11. Stamkos
12. Hall
13. Bergeron
14. Marchand
15. Toews/Mackinnon/Kucherov/Giroux/Panarin

I really do think that Crosby will continue to be the far and away best player but McDavid will be the clear cut 2nd best player in the league.

- MacPatty

I think mc david will pass crosby in 2 years when the age starts cathing up to sid and mcdavid being even better than he is now.
flipneil
Joined: 02.22.2007

Aug 9 @ 1:42 PM ET
I already did! (for all intensive purposes)


- cheater2



Didn't work.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Aug 9 @ 1:42 PM ET
I already did! (for all intensive purposes)


- cheater2



Supposably.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 9 @ 1:45 PM ET
That list is an abomination. Holy Christ is it terrible.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Aug 9 @ 1:46 PM ET
Derp derp derp. Derp. DERRRRRP.
- Matt_Henderson


What I think you mean to say was "That's high praise, thank you sir."
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